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Discussion: Is The 4 Era Iconic?
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4? Not at all. There's nothing to it. The only thing it will be remembered by is its unfortunate chart performance.
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Originally posted by ABEL
But sadly, her songs are only ONE dimensional, same formula, same everything.
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But sis, let's not just shade Beyonce here. Doesn't Gaga recycle most of her singles? Don't act like most of her singles don't have the same song progressions. Typical chorus followed by repetition of some silly word and a corny bridge. Don't try it.
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Originally posted by funnychick
But sis, let's not just shade Beyonce here. Doesn't Gaga recycle most of her singles? Don't act like most of her singles don't have the same song progressions. Typical chorus followed by repetition of some silly word and a corny bridge. Don't try it.
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... and? How does this prove his statement invalid? I wish people would grow out of the "well your fave" responses and actually reply to a post.
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Originally posted by JonnyϟLightning
... and? How does this prove his statement invalid? I wish people would grow out of the "well your fave" responses and actually reply to a post.
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Child please rewind. Did I say it was invalid? Did you read his/her whole post? ABEL uses these arguments against Beyonce, but avoids it when it comes to Gaga and continues to praise her to the heavens in that same post? Boop.
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abel is being ignorant. it's best to not even reply to his nonsense
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Sometimes I really wonder, what is worse.
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Originally posted by funnychick
But sis, let's not just shade Beyonce here. Doesn't Gaga recycle most of her singles? Don't act like most of her singles don't have the same song progressions. Typical chorus followed by repetition of some silly word and a corny bridge. Don't try it.
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It doesn't matter that it's rehashed. At least she puts effort into writing them.
Are you actually discrediting the IMPACT Born This Way had just to make 4 at least iconic? Born This Way, both album and the song debuted at number 1 in like 20 countries, and THIS is an album that took risks, and it paid off! Even if it didn't sell as much as The Fame it's still very respectable.
4 on the other hand, doesn't seem like it's a risk in my honest opinion. If you ask an average person out there, they'd say it's just another Beyonce album, if they know she has a new album out. It sounds like it's a risk just because it doesn't sound electro dance, but so what if it sounds different? My fart smells different. Does that make it an iconic risk? So don't prematurely validate your point by saying it's a risk because it's a different sound from other albums.
There is a fine difference between being DIFFERENT and DISTINCTIVE. You can be different and PEOPLE won't even distinguish you OUT. But being distinctive gives you that unique aspect. Lady Gaga IS Distinctive because people KNOW it's Lady Gaga when they hear her songs on the radio, when they see a glimpse of her from a thousand miles - maybe that's a stretch but you should get what I mean. I mean everyone wants to be different,but only a handful of them can be Distinctive. Why? You are either to be born distinctive, or blend among the rest.
And like I said, It's not HOW much talent a person has, it's how they use them and how people react to them. Doesn't matter how well Beyonce sing, act, dance, she maybe the best triple threat out there, but so are other people. Unoticed people, who didn't make it big just because they are not commercial looking, and sounding. She maybe the triple threat, but her skills at all three are mediocre at best. Beyonce stans need to hold a grip. She is not Michael Jackson. Not the second coming. She can be the next Tina Turner though.
And to respond to the answer that Beyonce does a song for every imaginable theme out there, that's right, she may have these kinds of songs, but you have to realize there is a distinction between generic, and amazing. Of course everyone wants to be universal, everyone wants to have universal song, but if the public isn't buying it, then you are out of luck and just stick to what you're doing best. Don't shove it to the public. At least. The only reason why Listen became such a huge hit is because of Dreamgirls, not Beyonce, not her management.
Beyonce is known for ass popping songs. The songs gay guys go home to and pop their asses out to. Just because she does a song for each theme doesn't make her NOT be one dimensional. It's NOT what you make, and what you sing. It's HOW the public reacts.
Born This Way, or 4. Which one did the public really choose?
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It's not iconic, because Beyonce tries too hard to be "different".
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not iconic. i won't remember much from this.
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No, outside of her hardcore fanbase the album will be easily forgotten with no hit singles.
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Originally posted by ABEL
It doesn't matter that it's rehashed. At least she puts effort into writing them.
Are you actually discrediting the IMPACT Born This Way had just to make 4 at least iconic? Born This Way, both album and the song debuted at number 1 in like 20 countries, and THIS is an album that took risks, and it paid off! Even if it didn't sell as much as The Fame it's still very respectable.
4 on the other hand, doesn't seem like it's a risk in my honest opinion. If you ask an average person out there, they'd say it's just another Beyonce album, if they know she has a new album out. It sounds like it's a risk just because it doesn't sound electro dance, but so what if it sounds different? My fart smells different. Does that make it an iconic risk? So don't prematurely validate your point by saying it's a risk because it's a different sound from other albums.
There is a fine difference between being DIFFERENT and DISTINCTIVE. You can be different and PEOPLE won't even distinguish you OUT. But being distinctive gives you that unique aspect. Lady Gaga IS Distinctive because people KNOW it's Lady Gaga when they hear her songs on the radio, when they see a glimpse of her from a thousand miles - maybe that's a stretch but you should get what I mean. I mean everyone wants to be different,but only a handful of them can be Distinctive. Why? You are either to be born distinctive, or blend among the rest.
And like I said, It's not HOW much talent a person has, it's how they use them and how people react to them. Doesn't matter how well Beyonce sing, act, dance, she maybe the best triple threat out there, but so are other people. Unoticed people, who didn't make it big just because they are not commercial looking, and sounding. She maybe the triple threat, but her skills at all three are mediocre at best. Beyonce stans need to hold a grip. She is not Michael Jackson. Not the second coming. She can be the next Tina Turner though.
And to respond to the answer that Beyonce does a song for every imaginable theme out there, that's right, she may have these kinds of songs, but you have to realize there is a distinction between generic, and amazing. Of course everyone wants to be universal, everyone wants to have universal song, but if the public isn't buying it, then you are out of luck and just stick to what you're doing best. Don't shove it to the public. At least. The only reason why Listen became such a huge hit is because of Dreamgirls, not Beyonce, not her management.
Beyonce is known for ass popping songs. The songs gay guys go home to and pop their asses out to. Just because she does a song for each theme doesn't make her NOT be one dimensional. It's NOT what you make, and what you sing. It's HOW the public reacts.
Born This Way, or 4. Which one did the public really choose?
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Where did I say that Born This Way had less impact? I was merely adressing how silly it is for you to call Beyonce's songs repetitive and that they follow a similar formula (which I agree with), yet you claim Gaga's aren't. How are Born This Way, Judas, Edge of Glory, Marry The Night musical risks? It's dance-pop gurl, just like her previous records. Dance music with a catchy hook, followed by some oh-oh-oh ra-ra-ra ma-ma-ma ju-da-da edge-edge-edge ish. You must be so far up that booty to not even see this... and I live for a generic catchy tune, so no shade.
Just because Born This Way IS more iconic and yes IS more popular... doesn't mean that it doesn't follow a similar formula and isn't repetitive. Like, READ gwarl.
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How is she trying to be different? It's called MATURITY. She is making this music because it's appropriate for her age and her love for her husband. Beyonce writes her own music, thank you very much. And what a terrible example you used? What does a fart have to do with risks?
She is not known for booty popping songs, but for her performing skills. And like every other popular artist today don't release popping
uptempos all the time (including Gaga)?
And explain to me how the
Publics reaction to someone's music makes a singer one dimensional? Wouldn't that make Gaga, Katy Perry, Rihanna, and many others one dimensional? Even if that was the case, she would remain the exact opposite.
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Originally posted by MusicLoverDude
It's not iconic, because Beyonce tries too hard to be "different".
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So she tries too hard to be different because she doesn't make generic pop music like everyone else?
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Quote:
Originally posted by ABEL
It doesn't matter that it's rehashed. At least she puts effort into writing them.
Are you actually discrediting the IMPACT Born This Way had just to make 4 at least iconic? Born This Way, both album and the song debuted at number 1 in like 20 countries, and THIS is an album that took risks, and it paid off! Even if it didn't sell as much as The Fame it's still very respectable.
4 on the other hand, doesn't seem like it's a risk in my honest opinion. If you ask an average person out there, they'd say it's just another Beyonce album, if they know she has a new album out. It sounds like it's a risk just because it doesn't sound electro dance, but so what if it sounds different? My fart smells different. Does that make it an iconic risk? So don't prematurely validate your point by saying it's a risk because it's a different sound from other albums.
There is a fine difference between being DIFFERENT and DISTINCTIVE. You can be different and PEOPLE won't even distinguish you OUT. But being distinctive gives you that unique aspect. Lady Gaga IS Distinctive because people KNOW it's Lady Gaga when they hear her songs on the radio, when they see a glimpse of her from a thousand miles - maybe that's a stretch but you should get what I mean. I mean everyone wants to be different,but only a handful of them can be Distinctive. Why? You are either to be born distinctive, or blend among the rest.
And like I said, It's not HOW much talent a person has, it's how they use them and how people react to them. Doesn't matter how well Beyonce sing, act, dance, she maybe the best triple threat out there, but so are other people. Unoticed people, who didn't make it big just because they are not commercial looking, and sounding. She maybe the triple threat, but her skills at all three are mediocre at best. Beyonce stans need to hold a grip. She is not Michael Jackson. Not the second coming. She can be the next Tina Turner though.
And to respond to the answer that Beyonce does a song for every imaginable theme out there, that's right, she may have these kinds of songs, but you have to realize there is a distinction between generic, and amazing. Of course everyone wants to be universal, everyone wants to have universal song, but if the public isn't buying it, then you are out of luck and just stick to what you're doing best. Don't shove it to the public. At least. The only reason why Listen became such a huge hit is because of Dreamgirls, not Beyonce, not her management.
Beyonce is known for ass popping songs. The songs gay guys go home to and pop their asses out to. Just because she does a song for each theme doesn't make her NOT be one dimensional. It's NOT what you make, and what you sing. It's HOW the public reacts.
Born This Way, or 4. Which one did the public really choose?
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IDK what all this is, but I can't take your opinion seriously when you make statements like this:
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I mean I know Mariah is a legend too, she's the Queen of RnB, but I'm realistic.
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The ****?
But no, the '4' era is not iconic.
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