Red Velvet are doing fine Idk why you guys are acting like they're huge flops. Their competition is really strong (just like SNSD had strong competition from WG, Kara, BEG, etc. and f(x) had with 2ne1, Miss A, APink, After School etc.) it is what it is, but they're still going to end up being one of the biggest selling groups of the new gen.
it is a bit ironic that they're being held back from being the #1 gg from a gg that is modelled after SNSD though
