[Robert]

The Grammy's are a joke. I don't know how anyone can take them seriously anymore. The only thing there good for is bragging rights.

[Sinister]

Roar is a better version of POM

[iStanGaga]

Originally posted by Kworb

But that's the point, you have to let that go, you have to stop assigning value to the opinion of the elite. Just because everyone else does it doesn't mean you have to do the same thing. Your opinion is not worth less than what the Grammy people think. By assigning value to the Grammys, you are doing exactly that. It's self-deprecating and weak. Don't belittle yourself.

A world without collective values is sheer anarchy. An idea that has never found success.

[C/H/A/N/E/L]

Originally posted by White Tigers

Roar is a better version of POM

More like "Part of Me"'s lyrics with "Wide Awake"'s overall sound.

[Kworb]

Originally posted by RobynYoBank

That's a dangerous slope though. Your taste may be equally "valid" in some sense, but that doesn't mean your opinion or assessment is as informed as another person's.

I understand and respect the idea of personal taste, but I don't think de-valuing the opinion of others who spend their lives working in a particular field is the right way to boost self-efficacy.

Yes we have had this discussion before.

The intangible value of art cannot be objectively quantified. No person is more qualified than another to assess this intangible value. It is indeed all personal taste. Becoming more "informed" might cause you to appreciate some things more than others, but this process is also completely subjective, and so it does not make your taste "better".

[Cap10Planet]

Originally posted by Allstar

You think they'll just award that thing to unknown hip-hoppers from the NY underground?

Why not? Other fields do it. Those rappers aren't the only ones making quality music, and there's no reason why the rap field should be a revolving door of just three rappers.

Like Relapse winning Best Rap Album over The Renaissance or The Ecstatic prove that they just checked off Eminem's name because he's Eminem. I remember when AllHipHop and SOHH went crazy over that win.

[z10]

Nothing Was The Same will get another load of Grammy noms next year

[Sinister]

Originally posted by RobynYoBank

But that's a matter of taste. Many critics function on the idea of aesthetic value or value with respect to the art form.

true

I respect Grammys but the only thing ppl use it for on this site is for bragging rights

And as Cap10 said...they know nothing about Hip-Hop (same can be said about reggae )

[rbautz]

Grammys - Adele said it simple, if you have one then it's like you're in a special club.


And you will see, if Adele plays in near future at American Idol or X Factor, they don't announce her with all her

achievements like they usually always do, they announce her only with 9 times Grammy and Oscar winner Adele.

[Georges]

Originally posted by Oshiish

Katy for best POP vocal....


AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH






AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

Erm.
Best Pop Vocal is for songs with +%50 vocals on it. It's not for the vocals themselves bro.

[sGabe4]

Originally posted by X/O/X/O

It's hard to take someone seriously when they stan for a woman who does this.

I mean, at least Marina's "immaturity" nonsense had some bit of a reason & story behind it.

seeing how much you know about Katy's artistry, I'm sure you also know that Katy's the last person to take herself seriously
some poeple might call her a joke because of that, but as long as her career is going strong and she has fans who like her artistry no matter how laughable you might find it, she will be very successful
and she's evolving this era, just wait and pray that your fave (Gaga) will copy from Katy's book and stop taking herself way too seriously so she can once again create wonderful songs like she once used to, until BTW happened...
I used to be a huge Gaga stan in the TFM era but I could smell desperation to prove her artistry from miles away as soon as she premiered that album
hearing the snippets and Burqa though I have hope for Mother Monster

[slobro]

Gaga should call whoever produced this

[Sinister]

Originally posted by Kworb

Yes we have had this discussion before.

The intangible value of art cannot be objectively quantified. No person is more qualified than another to assess this intangible value. It is indeed all personal taste. Becoming more "informed" might cause you to appreciate some things more than others, but this process is also completely subjective, and so it does not make your taste "better".

i really do understand what you're saying

But I view the Grammy committee like a jury...they practically do the same thing (as far as the US legal system goes they are basically one and the same)

[Kworb]

Originally posted by iStanGaga

A world without collective values is sheer anarchy. An idea that has never found success.

Art appreciation should be sheer anarchy. Our opinions should not be formed by others, we should form them ourselves.

Anarchy as a societal system and whether that works is a different discussion.

[Georges]

Skrillex - "Bangarang"
Avicii – "Levels"
Calvin Harris featuring Ne-Yo – "Let's Go"
Swedish House Mafia featuring John Martin – "Don't You Worry Child"
Al Walser – "I Can't Live Without You"

Terrible nominations to be honest.

[Elusive Chanteuse]

>>>>>
Don't watch this if you are depressed.

[Brando]

Originally posted by X/O/X/O

I mean Katy? Best VOCAL?

That category is not about VOCALS. It's about a "performance" "with vocals", i.e. "not instrumental"

[jinzo]

@ this summing up a Maid song.

[Oshiish]

Originally posted by Georges

Erm.
Best Pop Vocal is for songs with +%50 vocals on it. It's not for the vocals themselves bro.

AHHHHHHHHHHHH

[Georges]

We should make our own Grammy awards when the nominations come in.

Wait, this is quite a good idea . I'm on it.