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Discussion: U.S. Election 2016
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Originally posted by Temporal
They're not important, at least the FBI thinks so 
And one could argue that Hillary's vote for the Iraq war indirectly created ISIS by creating a power vacuum after US troops withdrew from Iraq. But no, it's not like she was meeting Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi in the middle of the night 
Here's a brief summary, the big points are that 1) there isn't any evidence that Clinton willingly or knowingly sent or received Classified information on her server because emails that did contain sensitive information weren't properly marked, and 2) the 33,000 emails that were infamously deleted weren't purposefully deleted or hidden, they were purged automatically from the server by its nature. |
Thanks! I'll check em' out.
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Log off reddit, Devon
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Oh okay.
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You know what. This woman has spent her entire life fighting for people like you and I. She is almost 70 and has made some mistakes, but she has worked harder than most of us will ever work and how dare you try to disgrace the amazing woman she is. You can bring up the emails, benghazi and whatever BS you want to pull out, but she won't stop fighting for you--because she doesn't care. She's gotten knocked down, bloodied, and bruised but she never stops fighting. She's not an amazing speaker, she's not an amazing communicator... but her achievements, work ethic, focus and hard work make me excited and proud at the thought of having her as my president. Drag her in the dirt, criticize her, be mad at her.... but one thing is for sure, Hillary Clinton has never and will never give up on fighting for you. She's not doing it because she has to... Not doing it because she wants the attention... She's doing it because she wants to and she deserves it now more than ever. I just finished a documentary on her career and it almost brought me to tears. If you had to endure the firestorm that this woman has been faced with, you wouldn't come across as warm or "likable" either. She is strong, caring, compassionate and is exactly what this country needs right now. She could be one of our country's greatest presidents and I encourage anyone on edge to research her work and history--I bet your opinion will change, in fact I almost guarantee it.
Sorry, just needed to get that off of my chest. I love this woman to death and will fight in my state until she wins in November. Rain or shine, October surprise or no October surprise.
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Originally posted by RihsusChrist(ATG)
I want actual poll #'s...I don't believe it. 
Bill's poll numbers went up, but those proceedings didn't put Hillary in a good light.
Are you saying Diane couldn't do a good job as SOS because of her age?
You could make the same case for Hillary, then.
Your agism ^ is showing, Maxx.
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http://www.people-press.org/2015/05/...roval-timeline
It went from 38% to 66% from 1992 to right after the impeachment. This is historical facts sweetie.
And no Hillary being president at 70 is different than a 83-87 year old woman traveling the country nonstop. It's just not a bet we should be taking especially when you have to deal with foreign dictators, fight ISIS, and stop nuclear weapon programs.
And I never said Castro for SOS. I was talking about cabinet positions overall.
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Originally posted by HeyMr.DJ
You know what. This woman has spent her entire life fighting for people like you and I. She is almost 70 and has made some mistakes, but she has worked harder than most of us will ever work and how dare you try to disgrace the amazing woman she is. You can bring up the emails, benghazi and whatever BS you want to pull out, but she won't stop fighting for you--because she doesn't care. She's gotten knocked down, bloodied, and bruised but she never stops fighting. She's not an amazing speaker, she's not an amazing communicator... but her achievements, work ethic, focus and hard work make me excited and proud at the thought of having her as my president. Drag her in the dirt, criticize her, be mad at her.... but one thing is for sure, Hillary Clinton has never and will never give up on fighting for you. She's not doing it because she has to... Not doing it because she wants the attention... She's doing it because she wants to and she deserves it now more than ever. I just finished a documentary on her career and it almost brought me to tears. If you had to endure the firestorm that this woman has been faced with, you wouldn't come across as warm or "likable" either. She is strong, caring, compassionate and is exactly what this country needs right now. She could be one of our country's greatest presidents and I encourage anyone on edge to research her work and history--I bet your opinion will change, in fact I almost guarantee it.
Sorry, just needed to get that off of my chest. I love this woman to death and will fight in my state until she wins in November. Rain or shine, October surprise or no October surprise.
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I agree with the points you made.
But the Trumpsters, Jillettes and the Little Gary's are gonna bring that email/benghazi **** up and up again and it's unfortunate. 
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I agree, DJ. 
I think that one of the most obvious fundamental differences between Hillary and Donald is that she cares about people and he cares about himself. If I'm being grossly generalistic, I think that may even be a major difference between dems and reps as a whole; baaically every minority prefers democrats, while the core of the gop is white people who wish to maintain the status quo.
I feel like Hillary is going to do the absolute best she can as president not only because she wants to make life better for people, but also because she knows that as the first female president she'll be held to a higher standard than any man ever would be (and that it could affect female politicians for generations to come).
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Originally posted by Mellark
I agree with the points you made.
But the Trumpsters, Jillettes and the Little Gary's are gonna bring that **** up and up again and it's unfortunate. |
But they deserve to have Trump's ***** gate brought up and all his past outlandish statement thrown right back at them
EDIT: if you combine ***** gate, it's unedited 
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Trump said Obama will be the last black president for a long time. Little does he know, Democrats are already prepping King Cory Booker, our first gay and first gay black president!
Julian Castro and Chelsea incoming.... 
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Originally posted by King Maxx
Trump said Obama will be the last black president for a long time. Little does he know, Democrats are already prepping King Cory Booker, our first gay and first gay black president!
Julian Castro and Chelsea incoming.... |
I don't think Chelsea would fit. She's not a good public speaker and I don't think she's interested[?]
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Originally posted by Saskia
I don't think Chelsea would fit. She's not a good public speaker and I don't think she's interested[?]
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She's still young. Give her 20-30 years when her parents are gone and when the country needs a Clinton to fix **** again.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by HeyMr.DJ
You know what. This woman has spent her entire life fighting for people like you and I. She is almost 70 and has made some mistakes, but she has worked harder than most of us will ever work and how dare you try to disgrace the amazing woman she is. You can bring up the emails, benghazi and whatever BS you want to pull out, but she won't stop fighting for you--because she doesn't care. She's gotten knocked down, bloodied, and bruised but she never stops fighting. She's not an amazing speaker, she's not an amazing communicator... but her achievements, work ethic, focus and hard work make me excited and proud at the thought of having her as my president. Drag her in the dirt, criticize her, be mad at her.... but one thing is for sure, Hillary Clinton has never and will never give up on fighting for you. She's not doing it because she has to... Not doing it because she wants the attention... She's doing it because she wants to and she deserves it now more than ever. I just finished a documentary on her career and it almost brought me to tears. If you had to endure the firestorm that this woman has been faced with, you wouldn't come across as warm or "likable" either. She is strong, caring, compassionate and is exactly what this country needs right now. She could be one of our country's greatest presidents and I encourage anyone on edge to research her work and history--I bet your opinion will change, in fact I almost guarantee it.
Sorry, just needed to get that off of my chest. I love this woman to death and will fight in my state until she wins in November. Rain or shine, October surprise or no October surprise.
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The use of pronouns seems like this is directed at me since I was the only one who brought it up, but I'm just gonna assume you just had built up anger towards the topic
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Originally posted by Achilles.
I agree, DJ.
I think that one of the most obvious fundamental differences between Hillary and Donald is that she cares about people and he cares about himself. If I'm being grossly generalistic, I think that may even be a major difference between dems and reps as a whole; baaically every minority prefers democrats, while the core of the gop is white people who wish to maintain the status quo.
I feel like Hillary is going to do the absolute best she can as president not only because she wants to make life better for people, but also because she knows that as the first female president she'll be held to a higher standard than any man ever would be (and that it could affect female politicians for generations to come). |
The sad part is that Hillary will be held to a much higher standard and face even more disrespect and obstructionism than Obama..the deplorables and GOP in general already hate her and think she is evil, and there's nothing she could do to change their minds. They'll be screaming e-mails and Benghazi until they croak
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Well, as long as it's "mostly" false, I guess... 
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Originally posted by KittyCat
The sad part is that Hillary will be held to a much higher standard and face even more disrespect and obstructionism than Obama..the deplorables and GOP in general already hate her and think she is evil, and there's nothing she could do to change their minds. They'll be screaming e-mails and Benghazi until they croak |
Perhaps. But I think that at this point, even if Dems don't take back Congress, she has her sensible flats right on GOPCongress's neck. I mean, the party is practically begging for her to be president with all of these anti-Donald statements being produced fresh by the hour. It would not be good for them at all if they then turned around and refused to work with her.
You also have to factor in the many claims that Republicans in Congress have a lot of respect for her, that she has a decent record of working across the aisle, and that she'll probably have a better / stronger relationship with Congress than Obama has had.
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The GOP will come off of Trump's mess. The nerve if they obstruct again.
If Hillary even attempts to get legislation passed to help the working class, it'll look on her part.
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Originally posted by Achilles.
I agree, DJ.
I think that one of the most obvious fundamental differences between Hillary and Donald is that she cares about people and he cares about himself. If I'm being grossly generalistic, I think that may even be a major difference between dems and reps as a whole; baaically every minority prefers democrats, while the core of the gop is white people who wish to maintain the status quo.
I feel like Hillary is going to do the absolute best she can as president not only because she wants to make life better for people, but also because she knows that as the first female president she'll be held to a higher standard than any man ever would be (and that it could affect female politicians for generations to come). |
The entire GOP ideology is based on Ayn Rand. A person who taught people to be selfish and greedy.
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Originally posted by King Maxx
Trump said Obama will be the last black president for a long time. Little does he know, Democrats are already prepping King Cory Booker, our first gay and first gay black president!
Julian Castro and Chelsea incoming.... |
Cory booker is gay? 
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Originally posted by Reza
Cory booker is gay? |
Rumors. 
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Originally posted by Reza
Cory booker is gay? |
“...People who think I’m gay, some part of me thinks it’s wonderful. Because I want to challenge people on their homophobia. I love seeing on Twitter when someone says I’m gay, and I say, ‘So what does it matter if I am? So be it. I hope you are not voting for me because you are making the presumption that I’m straight”
Make of that statement what you will.
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I think Rachel Maddow said on her show that Cory Booker isn't gay. But if he remains single until his presidential run, the rumors are gonna fly.
Has a presidential candidate ever run as a bachelor? Lemme write this screenplay real quick. 
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