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News: Shootings/explosion in Paris
Member Since: 8/7/2015
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Originally posted by BadMonster
I don't see many or maybe even any Islamophobes though, just several Muslims arguing that extremist Muslims are not Muslims, (which they are), and then trying to make people who see those extremist Muslims for what they are look bad by calling them Islamophobes. Point me to a post where literally one person shows they have a problem with every single Muslim on this planet
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This is so annoying. Every single day I see christians claim that people who condemn gays, unwed mothers, starbucks, etc. aren't true christians but when muslims say that terrorists aren't "true muslims" we disregard it? Maybe we should listen to Muslims when they say ISIS doesn't represent their faith the way we do when Christians say right-wing extremists don't represent theirs.
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Member Since: 1/1/2013
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Originally posted by ShouldersSideways
This is so annoying. Every single day I see christians claim that people who condemn gays, unwed mothers, starbucks, etc. aren't true christians but when muslims say that terrorists aren't "true muslims" we disregard it? Maybe we should listen to Muslims when they say ISIS doesn't represent their faith the way we do when Christians say right-wing extremists don't represent theirs.
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lmao, I've only heard Christians claim the opposite, that people who accept gays/unwed mothers/etc are not real Christians, you're just making stuff up to fit your agenda... Also, the fact they have a different view on their religion doesn't mean they don't belong to their religion, there are plenty of extremis Muslims and extremist Christians, they, however, remain Christians and Muslims
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Member Since: 11/13/2011
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Whats the deal?! There are good muslims, there are bad ones. Unfortunately, most terrorists if not all are bad muslims, not bad Christians, Buddhists, or whatever. Its of course unfortunate for the muslims who practice their religion in a peaceful way, but thats something they have to cope with. Thats why unity is important and why its important for the "good" muslims to make a point and helping in erasing those who terrorize and potentially kill in the name of their religion.
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Member Since: 8/6/2015
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This is not the first ISIS terrorist attack so I am still surprised with the Islamophobic comments not just in ATRL but in general. This is all that I've got to say:
All terrorists are Muslims, but not all Muslims are terrorists.
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Originally posted by Brian Kinney
This is not the first ISIS terrorist attack so I am still surprised with the Islamophobic comments not just in ATRL but in general. This is all that I've got to say:
All terrorists are Muslims, but not all Muslims are terrorists.
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I swear if I read this "quote/fact/statement" one more time on the internet.....
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by Qwerty1234
Very curious indeed. A terrorist brings his passport to an attack making it possible for authorities to quickly identify his friends and family AND the passport somehow doesn't get destroyed when he blows himself up. Uh huh.  |
Fake Syrian passports?
Channel 4 News' Jon Snow has said Paris police sources have told him that the Syrian passports were fake and "probably" made in Turkey.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...-20151115-0641
I knew it. The culprits WANT the EU to turn on the refugees and in doing so create distrust and hatred on both sides. Sadly enough, people are falling for it.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by Matangi
I swear if I read this "quote/fact/statement" one more time on the internet.....
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Sadly, no one will pay attention to you. They'll prefer their silly little slogans to actual facts.
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Member Since: 11/13/2011
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Originally posted by Matangi
I swear if I read this "quote/fact/statement" one more time on the internet.....
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It depends what is considered a terror attack by the poll. Are school shootings, etc. included because they also create terror? If yes, then its obvious why the percentages are like that.
BTW, you cant even find the original source anymore, or any other site that is using this so called "official" stat. Im sorry, but Im still not convinced just because a site called "thinkprogress.org" uses such statistics. Terrorism is highly associated with people shouting "Allah", which is awful. But thats the reality.
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Member Since: 2/26/2012
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Originally posted by Matangi
I swear if I read this "quote/fact/statement" one more time on the internet.....
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Especially the last sentence, that doesn't make sense to me
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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The mass shootings happening in the US are the best example for this. White people get ALWAYS branded as "sick psychopaths with sad childhoods, easy access to guns and fan of video games". Meanwhile this kid who build that clock got ARRESTED because of their racist teacher (happened just a few weeks ago).
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Member Since: 8/6/2015
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Originally posted by Matangi
I swear if I read this "quote/fact/statement" one more time on the internet.....
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I'm sorry but I didn't mean any harm in what I said. My only point is to stop generalising Muslims.
And let's be real that chart can be very well be just made up.
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Member Since: 3/14/2013
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Originally posted by Matangi
The mass shootings happening in the US are the best example for this. White people get ALWAYS branded as "sick psychopaths with sad childhoods, easy access to guns and fan of video games". Meanwhile this kid who build that clock got ARRESTED because of their racist teacher (happened just a few weeks ago). |
exactly, they caused terror,they're terrorists too imo
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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I'm just wondering how someone close enough to hear the bomber say "Allah" didn't die in the explosion. Anyway, if he did shout out God's name before he died, may God have mercy on his soul because the amount innocent lives he killed while misusing God's name, only God knows what hell the afterlife is ready to offer the man.
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Member Since: 8/6/2015
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Originally posted by Matangi
The mass shootings happening in the US are the best example for this. White people get ALWAYS branded as "sick psychopaths with sad childhoods, easy access to guns and fan of video games". Meanwhile this kid who build that clock got ARRESTED because of their racist teacher (happened just a few weeks ago). |
Look up the definition of terrorism. There is no political agenda in regards to school shootings. It causes "terror' but it isn't terrorism.
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Originally posted by Brian Kinney
Look up the definition of terrorism. There is no political agenda in regards to school shootings. It causes "terror' but it isn't terrorism.
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The Norwegian TERRORIST from 2011 is always a fitting example. You don't think his shooting were political influenced?
right-wing extremist who hated Muslims
Media reports in Norway described Breivik as a 'loner', who lived with his mother in a wealthy suburb of west Oslo, was well-educated and enjoyed hunting.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...d-Muslims.html
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Member Since: 9/12/2011
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Originally posted by Matangi
I swear if I read this "quote/fact/statement" one more time on the internet.....
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... Those are statistics for EVERY TERRORIST ATTACK (90% Cyber attacks), not every terrorist attack resulting in the loss of life.
Search for Jihadism:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...rorist_attacks
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Member Since: 1/2/2014
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Originally posted by BGKC
Um. Notice how the attacks in Lebanon just the day before are not to be seen among the hit threads here on ATRL where everyone is so mainstream and spoonfed. Or what happened in Kenya back in April (do u have to google it?)
When I said I won't elaborate I meant it so this conversation ends here.
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People don't care as much if it happens in non Western countries. What happened in Paris was atrocious and simply heart-rending but when 140+ innocent students were killed in my country in April, those students got less than 5 mins of news coverage. And that's just not right.
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Member Since: 8/6/2015
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Originally posted by Matangi
The Norwegian TERRORIST from 2011 is always a fitting example. You don't think his shooting were political influenced?
right-wing extremist who hated Muslims
Media reports in Norway described Breivik as a 'loner', who lived with his mother in a wealthy suburb of west Oslo, was well-educated and enjoyed hunting.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...d-Muslims.html
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Yes, that is terrorism.
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Originally posted by lonnie
People don't care as much if it happens in non Western countries. What happened in Paris was atrocious and simply heart-rending but when 140+ innocent students were killed in my country in April, those students got less than 5 mins of news coverage. And that's just not right.
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I honestly think about this a lot. I also think the gap between Western, developed countries and the world in the East is even going to be more wide than it already is, if ISIS continues spreading their horror. We from the West are all so concerned about our own life and live in a completely different society than those in Kenya, Beirut, Syria and maybe even Turkey. But what happened in Paris showed each and everyone in the Western world: This could have been YOUR city and your life.
So the issue is now connected with our everyday life and society. Fear is growing and hate against the unknown and foreign is increasing too. This is exactly what ISIS wants and does. People from the West and the media can't connect with wars and terror attacks because they never felt it, it seems unrealistic due to our high living standard and safety. But Friday events showed us that no one ever is safe or better to say this is what ISIS shows us.
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