[lonnie]

This discussion

I remember when I was like 10 and I told my parents I was becoming a vegetarian and they looked at me like I had grown a second head

And I feel like I have to apologise for Azealia's mess so yeah its not norm to slaughter animals for rituals in Africa.

[Ecstasy]

This will probably be my last post here till the update. Hope to see you all safe and sound on the other side

[AvrilLaQueen]

Originally posted by lonnie

This discussion

I remember when I was like 10 and I told my parents I was becoming a vegetarian and they looked at me like I had grown a second head

And I feel like I have to apologise for Azealia's mess so yeah its not norm to slaughter animals for rituals in Africa.

sis you don't need to apologize for Azealia's dumb mess



@Ecstasy I'll snatch that new thread on the update

[Sunshine.]

Originally posted by Ecstasy

Plants do not have nerves and are not sentient beings. Animals might not necesarily grieve or do anything outside of eating and pooping but they can still feel fear and they still feel pain. It's completely different. What it comes down to is that we can't preach the sanctity of life while extinguishing billions every day. They are our neighbors, our cohabitants on this planet and they have as much right to live as we do.

You think you own whatever land you land on
The earth is just a dead thing you can claim
But I know every rock and tree and creature
Has a life, has a spirit, has a name

[The Unforgiving]

See y'all on the other side

[Ecstasy]

Originally posted by RobynFKA

More people should open the Bible -even if it's only for learning purposes- instead of listening to priests, churches and preachers, those people and organizations are evil. God is Love.

To put it in terms Atrlers understand: There are many bops in the Bible

It's always people who have never read the bible that tell you how good the bible is

[Elusive Chanteuse]

Originally posted by Ecstasy

This will probably be my last post here till the update. Hope to see you all safe and sound on the other side

!!!! Hope this thread is transferred

[WeFoundWill]

I'm probably joining this thread after the update

More people should open the Bible -even if it's only for learning purposes- instead of listening to priests, churches and preachers, those people and organizations are evil. God is Love.

I was just reading up on what the Bible has to say about Homosexuality, because I never read it.

According to God, homosexuality is put on an equal footing with homocide and fraud.
This book is just disgusting tbh.

[AvrilLaQueen]

Originally posted by Elusive Chanteuse

!!!! Hope this thread is transferred

I agree! Almost 3000 posts in this thread, it shouldn't go to waste!

[LoKoPaNdA]

Originally posted by Artemisia

The problem here is the unnecessary harming of animals. If you wanna be consistent, be just as mad at rich people who would rather spend money on steaks than vegetables.

I still think eating is justified and harming over some witchcraft belief is dumb. At least the rich person eating steak is gaining calories for their survival, what is Azealia getting?

[Communion]

Originally posted by LoKoPaNdA

I still think eating is justified and harming over some witchcraft belief is dumb. At least the rich person eating steak is gaining calories for their survival, what is Azealia getting?

But they're choosing selfish calories than ones that would just as much fit their needs.

Innocent farm animals have to be raped, assaulted and murdered cause some people like the taste of flesh more than they like greens?

[LoKoPaNdA]

Originally posted by Communion

But they're choosing selfish calories than ones that would just as much fit their needs.

Innocent farm animals have to be raped, assaulted and murdered cause some people like the taste of flesh more than they like greens?

What if this hypothetical rich person is eating organic meat from farms where animals can free range? And anyhow, eating meat is something so many people do from birth and many are not aware of how we get the meat. It's sad but still, getting calories>>>getting NOTHING. Sorry Azealia is just wrong on this

Raped? I know you adore hyperboles but stop.

[Communion]

Originally posted by LoKoPaNdA

What if this hypothetical rich person is eating organic meat from farms where animals can free range? And anyhow, eating meat is something so many people do from birth and many are not aware of how we get the meat. It's sad but still, getting calories>>>getting NOTHING. Sorry Azealia is just wrong on this

Raped? I know you adore hyperboles but stop.

What would you call forced impregnation?

You do know how that milk keeps on flowing from cows' utters, right?

And again, no one said she was right. Y'all are so short-sighted and ignorant when saying that. NO ONE had said she's right.
The point is meat-eaters are just as wrong.

Y'all sound like the religious folks who y'all shame.
Science says you do not need meat.
You're making an illogical, conscious choice based on your ethics to murder animals for your consumption.
People have a right to find that ridiculous and inhumane, and just as bad as what Azealia does.

[LoKoPaNdA]

Originally posted by Communion

What would you call forced impregnation?

You do know how that milk keeps on flowing from cows' utters, right?

Could you stop with the condescending, mightier than thou statements? That's why no one in this thread likes you and I'm usually on your side

I thought we were discussing meat not milk. Again, many people don't know or care to know about these procedures.

[LoKoPaNdA]

By putting her on equal footing with meat consumers you are disregarding her intentions

"Oh she is wrong, but the lady who cooked chicken for dinner is as bad as her "

I disagree. Torturing an animal with your own hands for witchcraft is to me senseless, moreso than meat consumption. You're free to think otherwise.

[AvrilLaQueen]

is it wrong killing animals? I don't know, is it wrong killing humans? would you kill animal for your own survival? would you kill another human before he attempts to murder you? oh, the game of morality is it wrong to kill or not to kill? why? why not?

[AvrilLaQueen]

Originally posted by LoKoPaNdA

By putting her on equal footing with meat consumers you are disregarding her intentions

"Oh she is wrong, but the lady who cooked chicken for dinner is as bad as her "

I disagree. Torturing an animal with your own hands for witchcraft is to me senseless, moreso than meat consumption. You're free to think otherwise.

thank you for bringing basic sanity into this discussion

[Communion]

Originally posted by LoKoPaNdA

I disagree. Torturing an animal with your own hands for witchcraft is to me senseless, moreso than meat consumption. You're free to think otherwise.

So would you then be morally opposed to what she did if she simply bought a package of chicken's blood to use in her rituals, similarly to how most meat-eaters don't directly kill most animals, but simply offer a demand that fuels the industry that does?

Sure, you could still find it silly and superstitious no different than tarot card reading, astrology, etc., but if she simply went to a butcher who sold packaged chicken's blood (since animal blood is used even in tons of cultures to eat and is cooked with ), you'd be fine with what she did morally?

[LoKoPaNdA]

Originally posted by Communion

So would you then be morally opposed to what she did if she simply bought a package of chicken's blood to use in her rituals, similarly to how most meat-eaters don't directly kill most animals, but simply offer a demand that fuels the industry that does?

Sure, you could still find it silly and superstitious no different than tarot card reading, astrology, etc., but if she simply went to a butcher who sold packaged chicken's blood (since animal blood is used even in tons of cultures to eat and is cooked with ), you'd be fine with what she did morally?

I think I was pretty clear when I said I find the ritual itself stupid, especially considering she is from America and we can't excuse her for being raised with it. So yes, if the blood is used for the ritual.

[Communion]

So cooking the blood of an animal you did not kill yourself, nor did you torture to eat in a type of pudding or sauce or sausage is... fine, and only then when rubbing it on your walls is when the act becomes immoral and when the conventions of normal break and the reality of how the blood/meat/animal got there (murder) is made important?

Eh. That's... a very weird and extremely specific distinction, but do you, I guess.