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Celeb News: gaga finds pop uncomfortable
Member Since: 2/4/2014
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Originally posted by Cyanide
So youre saying that just because she started making pop music means that she fully understood the reality of the pop music industry before even entering it? Your argument doesn't even make sense, you're bending the truth, reaching for the stars, and assuming that you know what she's thinking. All the while you most likely STILL haven't watched the clip
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Your arguing with someone who still actively uses a forum dedicated to her and I have watched the clip numerous times. She understands the industry well and she has proven it time and time again. She's not a dud, she knew what she was getting herself into. Also, for someone to have bodies of work including performances based on fame and industry-prepped stars, wouldn't you think she had some understanding of what she was getting into before she even got into it? Plus, she damn well knew pop was very electronic rather than "live".
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Originally posted by GypsyLife
She was snatched up to be a singer in a band and Fusari in an interview himself (even this year) said that at the start they were making Beatles-esque songs with the piano but that it wasn't going anywhere and he suggested that they should do something completely different to what she did before, just do a 180 and that was when she went blond and started making pop songs. It was never her plan to do pure pop and becoming a pop star but that's what exactly happened and it just sky rocketed. Being a pop star comes with different aspects then just being a singer in a band making rock songs.
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No. She was signed on to do work with Fusari and Starland early 2006 where they experimented with a few tracks that were non-pop. She didn't go blonde before she started doing pop, she was a brunette and in fact she was doing pop on the Lollapalooza stage where she was still a brunette. She didn't dye her hair until after Lollapalooza and that is when things started tot take off. Her vast body of work with Fusari was POP. It was clear that after she started doing pop her goal was to become a pop star. Of course it comes with many things and baggage that no body wants, but she was aware of how the industry was/is.
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Member Since: 3/16/2012
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whatever
can we talk about how good she was with fusari? the songs were so different and cool. i feel like that was when her sound was coolest and it was coolest to like gaga
(and now it's completely lame if you do )
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Member Since: 2/2/2014
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Originally posted by ahauntingnearu
whatever
can we talk about how good she was with fusari? the songs were so different and cool. i feel like that was when her sound was coolest and it was coolest to like gaga
(and now it's completely lame if you do )
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Agreed with all of this!
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Member Since: 3/16/2012
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Originally posted by Giorgoc
Agreed with all of this!
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i was such a stan for her first album. even the second (TFM) was good. then BTW came along and made everything awkward, and then AP was the final straw.
TF and TFM remain flawless, as well as her unreleased music. i still have all that on my ipod
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Member Since: 5/31/2012
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WHAT?
Bye.Fake as ****. Not you said that cause your poor album flopped like a ****.
She never stops disappointing me even that messy era has ended.Her attitude just made the song Applause like a huge joke.
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Member Since: 4/6/2014
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Originally posted by Allopatry
No. She was signed on to do work with Fusari and Starland early 2006 where they experimented with a few tracks that were non-pop. She didn't go blonde before she started doing pop, she was a brunette and in fact she was doing pop on the Lollapalooza stage where she was still a brunette. She didn't dye her hair until after Lollapalooza and that is when things started tot take off. Her vast body of work with Fusari was POP. It was clear that after she started doing pop her goal was to become a pop star. Of course it comes with many things and baggage that no body wants, but she was aware of how the industry was/is.
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"We started off very much in this Beatles-esque, Led Zeppelin, 'rock and roll girl' direction, and we probably recorded a dozen or so songs in that vein. And then when we switched gears, those 12-15 songs kinda got pushed aside, because they just didn't fit the new direction. The new direction started with "Beautiful, Dirty, Rich". When we had first recorded that, it was almost like everything else didn't fit. It was almost like we started over when we hit "Beautiful, Dirty, Rich" and we started writing a whole new record, a whole new direction. We knew at that point we had found something. Prior till, we weren't getting great feedback on the earlier stuff, obviously, women in rock is always an uphill battle. She wanted to fight it, and I was willing to fight it with her, but I figured, let's have a little fun, and change up for a couple of weeks to see what happens. And that's when we did "Dirty Rich". So basically, all the songs, 15 or so songs, got pushed aside, and we started -- you have to understand, we were working every day. And when I say every day, I mean Saturday and Sunday, too. So we were doing a song a day, sometimes. It was really a very prolific time. I don't remember seeing a time like that'.
From juli 2014.
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Originally posted by GypsyLife
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"We started off very much in this Beatles-esque, Led Zeppelin, 'rock and roll girl' direction, and we probably recorded a dozen or so songs in that vein. And then when we switched gears, those 12-15 songs kinda got pushed aside, because they just didn't fit the new direction. The new direction started with "Beautiful, Dirty, Rich". When we had first recorded that, it was almost like everything else didn't fit. It was almost like we started over when we hit "Beautiful, Dirty, Rich" and we started writing a whole new record, a whole new direction. We knew at that point we had found something. Prior till, we weren't getting great feedback on the earlier stuff, obviously, women in rock is always an uphill battle. She wanted to fight it, and I was willing to fight it with her, but I figured, let's have a little fun, and change up for a couple of weeks to see what happens. And that's when we did "Dirty Rich". So basically, all the songs, 15 or so songs, got pushed aside, and we started -- you have to understand, we were working every day. And when I say every day, I mean Saturday and Sunday, too. So we were doing a song a day, sometimes. It was really a very prolific time. I don't remember seeing a time like that'.
From juli 2014.
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All that tells me is that she did 15 songs with Fusari that was not pop that's all. However, after that she went with the POP route and she still was on the Lower Eat Side. Whatever arguement you are trying isn't working because it doesn't change the fact her debut was in 2008. Prior to '08 she was making POP tracks with Fusari which she played on the Lower East Side with Starlight and later on at Lollapalooza.
"t hough the musical relationship between Fusari and Gaga was unsuccessful at first, the pair soon set up a company titled Team Lovechild in which they recorded and produced electropop tracks and sent them to music industry bosses. Joshua Sarubin, the head of A&R at Def Jam Recordings, responded positively and vied for the record company to take a chance on her "unusual and provocative" performance. After having his boss Antonio "L.A." Reid in agreement, Gaga was signed to Def Jam in September 2006 with the intention of having an album ready in nine months.However, she was dropped by the label after only three months. Devastated, Gaga returned to the solace of the family home for Christmas and the nightlife culture of the Lower East Side. "
" Gaga wanted to perform with her to songs she had recorded with Fusari. Like SGBand, the pair soon began performing at many of the downtown club venues like the Mercury Lounge, The Bitter End, and the Rockwood Music Hall. Their live performance art piece was known as "Lady Gaga and the Starlight Revue" and, billed as "The Ultimate Pop Burlesque Rockshow", was a low-fi tribute to 1970s variety acts. S oon after, the two were invited to play at the 2007 Lollapalooza music festival in August that yearThe show was critically acclaimed, and their performance received positive reviews.Having initially focused on avant-garde electronic dance music, Gaga had found her musical niche when she began to incorporate pop melodies and the glam rock of David Bowie and Queen into her music. While Gaga and Starlight were busy performing, producer Rob Fusari continued to work on the songs he had created with Gaga. Fusari sent these songs to his friend, producer and record executive Vincent Herbert. Herbert was quick to sign her to his label Streamline Records, an imprint of Interscope Records, upon its establishment in 2007"
Hopefully this clears up for you and you finally understand that she was doing POP music before she took off. Furthermore, this wraps up how she has presented a good chunk of her career "mastering the art of fame" so she certainly knows how the industry works and she damn well knew pop music was more electronic than "live" per say.
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Originally posted by ahauntingnearu
whatever
can we talk about how good she was with fusari? the songs were so different and cool. i feel like that was when her sound was coolest and it was coolest to like gaga
(and now it's completely lame if you do )
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I agree! There was something unique about her pop-glam that she did with Fusari!
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its all about how you look.
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LOL she's one to talk. No one asked her to start that whole weird-outfits trend.
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I'm really confused how this thread is 15 pages long, are THAT many people on ATRL not able to understand what she was saying?
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Member Since: 3/15/2013
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Originally posted by Bimbo
She's just promoting and selling her jazz image, next album she's gonna say pop music is her true home and jazz made love with pop and now jazzy pop babies are gonna come out of her and be TFM's other twin brothers.
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Member Since: 4/4/2014
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Bye Bye Lady Gaga
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Member Since: 11/27/2010
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Gaga still alienating the masses I see.
Gaga never wouldve had a hit if pop music were about how you look.
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Member Since: 11/15/2011
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Originally posted by MissedTheTrain
I'm really confused how this thread is 15 pages long, are THAT many people on ATRL not able to understand what she was saying?
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Apparently so. Like get it together gurls.
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Member Since: 3/1/2014
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I like how ha perception changed after Artpop era
Well at least her courage to say what she's been feeling
Suddenly the hypocrites ha
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by Flawfree
LOL she's one to talk. No one asked her to start that whole weird-outfits trend.
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Not how you look outfit wise. It's how you look in general. If you're not hot, you're not going anywhere in pop music.
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Member Since: 3/25/2012
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Originally posted by Vulps
No shade but her attitude towards pop now that the industry has supposedly chewed her up and spit her out is a biT pathetic. Just dust yourself off and try again, stop acting like you're above it, especially after claiming to love it.
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Originally posted by Rihinvention
This makes me angry. What I loved most about her back when I was a stan was how unapologetically and unabashedly pop she was. She made it cool to say you liked pop music again. When I was in high school, no one admitted to liking "mainstream" music. Everyone said like they listened to Vampire Weekend, Klaxons and MGMT (and we did) but we all secretly listened to Britney Spears as well. Only no one would admit it until Gaga came along and helped get rid of the negative stigma pop had developed.
I want this Gaga back:
Now all she seems to do is lowbrow pop music. It's annoying.
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This. SO. Much!! Like I can't even right now. I'm not a stan, but I've defended her so many times during the artpop era because I really loved her pop music and I honestly believed she loved it too. I agree completely about how she made pop music cool back during The Fame days and I loved that about her. That she was unapologetically pop and didn't care what anyone thought.
The annoying thing is, she's saying all this "anti-pop music" "anti-industry" "anti-mainstream" stuff now. But as soon as she's done with her jazz phase, she's going to move onto something else and do the exact same thing. Why can't she just stfu and make good music that people will like? For someone who's always all "spread love no hate here plz", you'd think she'd know better. Like, you don't have to talk down other genres just because you decided to focus on a different one.
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