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Chart Listings: 'MDNA' to suffer huge drop in 2nd week
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That's shockingly low.
I mean, even if she had debuted with 170K, falling to 40/45K in the second week, considering the increase of sales during Easter, is quite a big drop. I hoped for at least 60-70K.
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How is Adele STILL slaying?! Slow down girl!
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Originally posted by MonsterCroatia
I can't @ fashadonia. Of course BTW didn't sell more than 200k is second week because in first week BTW sold million copies. That's a lot for first week tbh. BTW is more successful than MDNA and you will deal.
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Are you seriously gonna compare madonna's 12th studio album to gaga's 3rd album? gaga promoted the hell out of born this way and she had a huge first single which became a hit while madonna didn't do any promotion and her first single didn't do very well
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Originally posted by MonsterCroatia
I can't @ fashadonia. Of course BTW didn't sell more than 200k is second week because in first week BTW sold million copies. That's a lot for first week tbh. BTW is more successful than MDNA and you will deal.
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True Blue, her third album, was more successful than BTW (Gaga's third album) and you will deal too
I CAN'T at Gaga fans comparing someone who's here since 30 years and is WAY past her prime to someone who's here since ONLY 4 years and is at her peak. That show how immature and pathetic they are. But what to expect from people wishing cancer to people who don't like their fave...
Madonna doesn't have ANYTHING to prove anymore, she's the best selling female artist of all times and she had LONGEVITY, which is the more important.
When you're past your prime and have no hit single, OF COURSE you won't have longevity in sales, it's just LOGIC.
Question for all the Gaga fans: do you REALLY think Gaga's still gonna put big numbers 30 years into her career??? If you think so, you're all even more delusional than i thought...
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Originally posted by Tainted Blood
True Blue, her third album, was more successful than BTW (Gaga's third album) and you will deal too
I CAN'T at Gaga fans comparing someone who's here since 30 years and is WAY past her prime to someone who's here since ONLY 4 years and is at her peak. That show how immature and pathetic they are. But what to expect from people wishing cancer to people who don't like their fave...
Madonna doesn't have ANYTHING to prove anymore, she's the best selling female artist of all times and she had LONGEVITY, which is the more important.
When you're past your prime and have no hit single, OF COURSE you won't have longevity in sales, it's just LOGIC.
Question for all the Gaga fans: do you REALLY think Gaga's still gonna put big numbers 30 years into her career??? If you think so, you're all even more delusional than i thought...
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Calm down, this isn't NHB.
True Blue was way more successful than Born This Way, but The Fame (Monster) was more successful than Madonna and Like A Virgin, if you want to put it that way. Madonna has nothing left to prove, she's a legend and the biggest-selling female artist ever; therefore, I don't understand why are Madonna fans so worried about Gaga. They can be just as plain stupid and immature as Monsters, and the worst thing is that their average age has to be quite higher.
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See, heres what I don't understand, Madonna is a 53 year old woman now entering the 4th decade of her career in a youth controlled industry, releasing her 12th studio album with hardly any promo and no hits, she is way past her prime, yet people are expecting her to pull in these massive numbers similar to Gagas and Adeles (both of which happen to be the young hot thing of the moment) and keep releasing hit after hit?! It doesn't make any sense.
People can say 'excuses, excuses' all they want but the facts are there. What other over 53 year olds in the industry do you know that are 'keeping up with Adele, Rihanna, Katy and the Gaga'?
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Last week: Look at those massive numbers, HEW ELSE at 53 years old?
This week: HEW ELSE at 53 wouldn't suffer such a huge drop, what did you all expect?
And for the record, I never expected her to sell much. The Super Bowl was massive promo, but she's done basically nothing since and she doesn't have a hit. The shallow numbers don't take away anything from her previous accomplishments (of which there are MANY), but let's be consistent.
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Originally posted by HausOfA-M
Calm down, this isn't NHB.
True Blue was way more successful than Born This Way, but The Fame (Monster) was more successful than Madonna and Like A Virgin, if you want to put it that way. Madonna has nothing left to prove, she's a legend and the biggest-selling female artist ever; therefore, I don't understand why are Madonna fans so worried about Gaga. They can be just as plain stupid and immature as Monsters, and the worst thing is that their average age has to be quite higher.
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Lies. LAV sold 21 millions and TFM (combined with TF of course) has sold 15 millions. LAV was definitively more successful. At least LAV was just one album and not two albums combined (yeah i count TFM as a album, a lot of people and Gaga herself does). It's still impressive for Gaga of course but the receipts don't lie. And Madonna still sold 10 millions, not bad for a debut.
And i'm only 22. I know a LOT of Madonna fans who are my age or are even younger. The older Madonna fans don't waste their time with the Internet fights.
You Gaga fans need to understand that we're NOT worried about Gaga; i'm not and i know majority of Madonna fans aren't either. The REAL problem is the fact that Gaga fans spend their time trolling Madonna threads ALL THE TIME so of course some Madonna fans got angry and began to fight back. Not hard to understand, isn't it?
I have yet to see ONE SINGLE Madonna fan sending death threats, unlike Gaga fans who do it constantly. So don't compare us with your fanbase, it's ridiculous.
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I'm not surprised by Madonna's numbers. Between the deal for the tickets and her age, plus the lack of a hit single and scarce promotion since the SB...
But I hope it might stick around for a while, and people might become more interested as the tour goes on.
I know tours don't guarantee promo and sales (look at Britney last year ), but Madonna will be playing to more people than the copies this album has sold worldwide anyway and hopefully it'll translate into some sales.
I hope she'll finish up with at least 2 million worldwide. That way, she's at least up with some of the girls around half her career (not that she has to be).
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Originally posted by Artisticguy99
See, heres what I don't understand, Madonna is a 53 year old woman now entering the 4th decade of her career in a youth controlled industry, releasing her 12th studio album with hardly any promo and no hits, she is way past her prime, yet people are expecting her to pull in these massive numbers similar to Gagas and Adeles (both of which happen to be the young hot thing of the moment) and keep releasing hit after hit?! It doesn't make any sense.
People can say 'excuses, excuses' all they want but the facts are there. What other over 53 year olds in the industry do you know that are 'keeping up with Adele, Rihanna, Katy and the Gaga'?
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EXACTLY. That's also my whole point. But of course Gaga fans only see what they want to see
Stop acting so cocky because your fave is successful RIGHT NOW. You don't know where Gaga will be after 3 decades of career.
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Originally posted by Tainted Blood
Lies. LAV sold 21 millions and TFM (combined with TF of course) has sold 15 millions. LAV was definitively more successful. At least LAV was just one album and not two albums combined (yeah i count TFM as a album, a lot of people and Gaga herself does). It's still impressive for Gaga of course but the receipts don't lie. And Madonna still sold 10 millions, not bad for a debut.
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You obviously know album sales have gone down a lot since the 80s, when they sold roughly two, three times more than now. The Fame has sold around 5.5M without the re-release in a quite short time span, so its success is more impressive than Madonna's first album, not to mention how Madonna's debut didn't have a WW smash as strong as 'Poker Face' or 'Just Dance' or a video as acclaimed as 'Paparazzi'. The Fame (Monster), which you correctly count as a standalone album, has sold roughly 10M and, overall, its success is on par with Like A Virgin on both sides (singles, albums sold). I would even say 'Bad Romance' video is more memorable than any of first Madonna's videos. Gaga also got immediate critical acclaim and won five Grammys, something Madonna had to wait a bit more for. True Blue completely ***** on Born This Way, but that's another story.
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Originally posted by Tainted Blood
And i'm only 22. I know a LOT of Madonna fans who are my age or are even younger. The older Madonna fans don't waste their time with the Internet fights.
You Gaga fans need to understand that we're NOT worried about Gaga; i'm not and i know majority of Madonna fans aren't either. The REAL problem is the fact that Gaga fans spend their time trolling Madonna threads ALL THE TIME so of course some Madonna fans got angry and began to fight back. Not hard to understand, isn't it?
I have yet to see ONE SINGLE Madonna fan sending death threats, unlike Gaga fans who do it constantly. So don't compare us with your fanbase, it's ridiculous.
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Gaga's internet fanbase is often delusional, immature and annoying, but they're mostly teenagers (I am myself one), so I don't think that's a big deal. Not to mention they're the largest fanbase, so it will have more 'bad' members. If Internet had existed back then when Madonna was at her peak, it would have been the same.
It's not a case that the fanbases labeled as the most annoying are always the biggest (Gaga, Bieber, Britney...) and never the smaller ones. Here on ATRL (but also on many other sites), I saw many Madonna fans trolling Gaga threads, especially with the .99c deal or when Madonna talked about the BTW/EY thing. It wasn't nice.
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Originally posted by Tainted Blood
Stop acting so cocky because your fave is successful RIGHT NOW. You don't know where Gaga will be after 3 decades of career.
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I don't think anyone thinks Gaga will still be even charting in 30 years and no one is saying she will. I personally don't know if she will still be relevant in five years, so... I'm happy with what she has achieved so far. If sometimes even more exciting comes next, I'll be happy.
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LMAO why Madonna's fans are so bothered by Gaga
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the real question is why are you so mad?
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A Gaga stan started this thread.
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But Gaga isn't at her peak...Just stop
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Originally posted by HausOfGerard
But Gaga isn't at her peak...Just stop
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Well, they can't know if she is effectively at her peak, but how do you know she isn't?
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Originally posted by HausOfA-M
Well, they can't know if she is effectively at her peak, but how do you know she isn't?
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She just isn't. She's not gonna stop making music and her fanbase is even MORE loyal after the BTW era
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Originally posted by ashuduff
Why is it selling so well?
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Originally posted by ashuduff
I'm not surprised at all.
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Originally posted by HausOfA-M
You obviously know album sales have gone down a lot since the 80s, when they sold roughly two, three times more than now. The Fame has sold around 5.5M without the re-release in a quite short time span, so its success is more impressive than Madonna's first album, not to mention how Madonna's debut didn't have a WW smash as strong as 'Poker Face' or 'Just Dance' or a video as acclaimed as 'Paparazzi'. The Fame (Monster), which you correctly count as a standalone album, has sold roughly 10M and, overall, its success is on par with Like A Virgin on both sides (singles, albums sold). I would even say 'Bad Romance' video is more memorable than any of first Madonna's videos. Gaga also got immediate critical acclaim and won five Grammys, something Madonna had to wait a bit more for. True Blue completely ***** on Born This Way, but that's another story.
Gaga's internet fanbase is often delusional, immature and annoying, but they're mostly teenagers (I am myself one), so I don't think that's a big deal. Not to mention they're the largest fanbase, so it will have more 'bad' members. If Internet had existed back then when Madonna was at her peak, it would have been the same.
It's not a case that the fanbases labeled as the most annoying are always the biggest (Gaga, Bieber, Britney...) and never the smaller ones. Here on ATRL (but also on many other sites), I saw many Madonna fans trolling Gaga threads, especially with the .99c deal or when Madonna talked about the BTW/EY thing. It wasn't nice.
I don't think anyone thinks Gaga will still be even charting in 30 years and no one is saying she will. I personally don't know if she will still be relevant in five years, so... I'm happy with what she has achieved so far. If sometimes even more exciting comes next, I'll be happy.
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YEah on twitter most but in the public some of GAGA fans are older than 22 me included.
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Originally posted by HausOfGerard
She just isn't. She's not gonna stop making music and her fanbase is even MORE loyal after the BTW era
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The Fame (Monster) is quite a hard peak to replicate, IMO. I'll be happy, but I don't see her being THAT successful again soon.
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Yeah on twitter most but in the public some of GAGA fans are older than 22 me included.
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Yes, I was talking about her Twitter/ /annoying fanbase. But they're also very supportive, so...
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Originally posted by HausOfA-M
You obviously know album sales have gone down a lot since the 80s,
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No.Album sales peaked around 1998-2000 .
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