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Discussion: Is JLo more iconic than Mariah globally?
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Globally? Of course! Everyone knows Jennifer Lopez, she has iconic songs and movies, and her butt is iconic too. Mariah has nothing iconic about her outside of her main market, other than AIWFCIY. Here in Italy, anyone could name at least 5 JLo songs (classics such as IYHML, JFTB and LDCAT still get airplay), while Mariah's only remembered song is her Christmas jingle.
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The only fact that JLo's latest top 10 hit in many European countries is from this year while Mariah's is from 2009 says a lot. Also, consider their acting careers... JLo is simply on another level. She's one of the most iconic Hollywood celebrities of all time, and you have to be delusional to think Mariah is a bigger brand.
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Originally posted by Mark Rih
The delusion
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Mariah might be bigger as a singer in the Anglophone and Asian countries, but JLo remains the bigger, more talked about celebrity almost everywhere.
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Originally posted by KillingYourCareer
Globally? Of course! Everyone knows Jennifer Lopez, she has iconic songs and movies, and her butt is iconic too. Mariah has nothing iconic about her outside of her main market, other than AIWFCIY. Here in Italy, anyone could name at least 5 JLo songs (classics such as IYHML, JFTB and LDCAT still get airplay), while Mariah's only remembered song is her Christmas jingle.
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Originally posted by KillingYourCareer
The only fact that JLo's latest top 10 hit in many European countries is from this year while Mariah's is from 2009 says a lot. Also, consider their acting careers... JLo is simply on another level. She's one of the most iconic Hollywood celebrities of all time, and you have to be delusional to think Mariah is a bigger brand.
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Surely the bigger net worth = the bigger brand?
J.Lo - 320 million
Mariah - 500 million
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Originally posted by stevyy
Italy especially, is Mariah territory. Mariah has sold a gazillion albums there. Mi Todo says high to all Latin Markets.
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And yet, nobody has heard of her since 2009. The radios never play anything by Mariah apart from her Christmas song. Jennifer Lopez, on the other hand, has been producing hits steadily since 1999 and there hasn't been one single era here where she wasn't heard of. She disappeared between My All and We Belong Together, and then again after Obsessed - and again, none of her 00s songs had great chart runs. Please don't speak on behalf of Italy if you live in Denmark, lol.
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Originally posted by KillingYourCareer
The only fact that JLo's latest top 10 hit in many European countries is from this year while Mariah's is from 2009 says a lot. Also, consider their acting careers... JLo is simply on another level. She's one of the most iconic Hollywood celebrities of all time, and you have to be delusional to think Mariah is a bigger brand.
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Originally posted by KillingYourCareer
Mariah might be bigger as a singer in the Anglophone and Asian countries, but JLo remains the bigger, more talked about celebrity almost everywhere.
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I was waiting for you  all true tbh
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Question: Does J.Lo have anything from her music (or acting career) that will stand the test of time with a yearly resurgence just like AIWFCIY has 20+ years later?
Answer: No
Her career remains based on ha looks. Otherwise, due to ha talent, she'd be drowning in Grammys, Oscars, Emmys, Golden Globes etc etc.
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Originally posted by emmanuel_punk
Mariah is basically local but she's known WW by her name (not her music or anything) so yes JLo wins
Its close btw
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I have to agree. Her relevance in Italy is limited to:
- AIWFCIY
- "I don't know her" (among the gays)
- Being a diva on talk shows
All my friends think her name is Maria Curry like the spice so yeah 
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Originally posted by KillingYourCareer
Jennifer Lopez, on the other hand, has been producing hits steadily since 1999 and there hasn't been one single era here where she wasn't heard of.
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I almost choked.
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Originally posted by Rocket
I almost choked. |
I'm talking about my country in that post, so don't take quotes out of context.
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Originally posted by RedRed
Yall bringing up social media then why dont they buy her music? Her last album flopped harde than Mariah's and Mariah FLOPPED! Yall bragging about her singles when no one are listening or buying those because its Jlo, theydo because its alwayssome generic dance **** ft. Pitbull, which if sung by Betty White couldve sold/streamed just as better. On the floor was a hit because of the rise of dance tracks and that sample lol. U think people listened to that to hear Jlo sing? Did she even sang in those or someone has to sing another generic track for her pathetic ass? And what improvement as a vocalist yall talk about? She came into the scene lipsynching some other bitch's voice and when she did sing on her own,well she might as well gave the mic back to
On the 6:
If You Had My Love: Shawnyette Harrell, Jennifer Karr
Should've Never: Shawnyette Harrell, Jennifer Karr, Rene Toledo
Too Late: Shawnyette Harrell, Kim Travis, Rene Toledo
Feelin' So Good: Jennifer Karr
Could This Be Love: Angie Chirino, Manny Lopez
No Me Ames: Lena Pérez
Waiting for Tonight: Margret Dorn, Rita Quintero, Maria Christiansen, Jane Barrett, Wendy Peterson
Open Off My Love: Tracy Reid, Kyra Lawrence
It's Not that Serious: Shawnyette Harrell, Jennifer Karr
Talk About Us: Jennifer Karr
Una Noche Más: Wendy Peterson, Rita Quintero
Nails: Donna Allen
J. Lo:
I'm Real: Shelene Thomas
Play: Christina Millian
Walking on Sunshine: Karen Anderson, Adonis Shropshire
Ain't it Funny: Rene Toledo, Shelene Thomas
Cariño: Shelene Thomas
Come Over: Michelle Bell, Karen Anderson
We Gotta Talk: Shelene Thomas
That's Not Me: Kandice Love
Dance With Me: Karen Anderson
Secretly: Shelene Thomas
I'm Gonna Be Alright: Shelene Thomas
That's the Way: Shelene Thomas, Nora Payne
Dame (Touch Me): Jeannie Cruz, Lena Pérez
Si Ya Se Acabo: Jeannie Cruz, Lena Pérez
I'm Real (Murder Remix): Ashanti
This Is Me...Then
Still: LaKindra Pierce
Loving You: Natasha Ramos
I'm Glad: Natasha Ramos
The One: Shelene Thomas, Rene Toledo
All I Have: Makeba Riddick
Jenny from the Block: Natasha Ramos
You Belong to Me: Rene Toledo, Tavia Ivey, Kamil Rustam
I've Been Thinkin': Shelene Thomas, Rene Toledo
Baby I Love U: Shelene Thomas, Natasha Ramos
The One (Version 2): Shelene Thomas, Rene Toledo
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Originally posted by Eternium
Ice Age: Collision Course - $408M
Home - $386M
Ice Age: Continental Drift - $877.2M
Mess @ over half of her career gross coming from three films where she played a background character and only provided a voice
Ester Dean, who did minor vocal roles in Continental Drift and Rio, among actual parts in the two Pitch Perfect films, would be a $1.7B grossing starlet with the same criteria |
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Originally posted by RedRed
What drag? Lol just another Jlogout stan having a delusional episode. Kii at yall coming for someones vocals when Jlo cannot even hum without ghostsingers. What career did you non singing *** guzzling fraudulent fave killed? Didnt emancipation of Mimi outcharted and outsold Jlo's album form the same time frame? And that was after Jloose debuted and after glitter, not to mention it also won theree grammys and snatched a 14 week long number one, two number ones and song of the decade. Yall be really cosigning weak and unsupported drags like... Im not surprised tho, stanning Jlo for what, not her voice, certainly not her critically panned and uninspired music, or maybe her versatile role in movies where she pretends she's a white woman in romcoms with white parents (sans Selena). Ya girl is nothing but a glorified bronx hooker who got lucky. Yall so obsessed with this vegas thing I mean congats to the ho atleast she won something other than razzies, which my fave also has. Catch up mustards!
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Jesus H. Christ.
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Oh dear, I forgot about the Vegas residency. The demand for JLo is truly astonishing even in 2016 when she hasn't had a hit in the US for 4 years
How did the Elusive Chanteuse Show and the Sweet Fantasy Tour do? I don't see any 100% attendances in her receipts 
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Originally posted by KillingYourCareer
The only fact that JLo's latest top 10 hit in many European countries is from this year while Mariah's is from 2009 says a lot. Also, consider their acting careers... JLo is simply on another level. She's one of the most iconic Hollywood celebrities of all time, and you have to be delusional to think Mariah is a bigger brand.
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Mariah is a two-time Screen Actors Guild nominated actress, while JLo has never been nominated. 
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Definitely. I'm not sure that most people here even know who she is even tho everyone will be able to recognize My All, WBT and that song with Busta Rhymes 
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Originally posted by EJQL8
Mariah is a two-time Screen Actors Guild nominated actress, while JLo has never been nominated. |
J.Lo also hasn't had a film (that's not an animated feature) gross more than 100M at the US Box Office.
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Originally posted by Rocket
J.Lo also hasn't had a film (that's not an animated feature) gross more than 100M at the US Box Office.
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#oop
Another checkmark for #TeamMimi
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Originally posted by KillingYourCareer
I'm talking about my country in that post, so don't take quotes out of context.
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If we can use out own country as the metric of iconicness, then Mariah wins again.
Her biggest hit here per era
MC: Love Takes Time
EM: Emotions
MU: I'll Be There
MB: Hero
DD: Always Be My Baby
BU: Butterfly
#1s: I Still Believe
RA: Can't Take That Away
GL: Never Too Far
CB: Through The Rain
TEOM: We Belong Together
EMC: Bye Bye
MOAIA: Angels Cry
MIAM: #Beautiful
Look at that, every era for 26 years, Mariah Angela Carey has been loved, heard, and bought by the ppl here. <3
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Originally posted by KillingYourCareer
You know that using a picture of me without my contest can get you banned, right?
And EJQL8 - you live in the Philippines, we know Mariah is huge there. Just like JLo is huge in most of Europe. |
OMG! Is that you?
Soz. I had no idea.
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Not sure but people are really underrating J.Los fame, shes known by pretty much everyone. Not necessarily for her music, but she is iconic especially for her ass.
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