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Discussion: Real Queen of Pop?
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Originally posted by Mister Martian
Let's make this quick cause I got go...
Anywho,
I think it's laughable that people are so quick to discount the past like it never happened. People didn't just stop talking about Thriller just because it got old. When people talk about Michael Jackson now, they talk about Thriller... just like when people talk about Britney they talk about Baby One More Time. When history is being revisited, people will talk about artists at their peaks... just because we like in the present doesn't mean that is the only thing we need to discuss. So yes, I will bring up Britney higher selling older albums because that is not irrelevant.
Second, people kill me comparing apples to cornbread. Beyonce is having extremely similar succes to Britney. If you look at 1999 - 2003 for Britney, it looks the same (well better) than Beyonce 2003 - 2011 (we will omit 2004-2006). It's unfair to compare Britney to Beyonce now because Britney has already been there and done all of this. In 5 more years, then it will be necessary to compare Britney now to Beyonce then.
Next, I know Britney doesn't dance like she used to. It tears me up inside... but anyone that has the nerve to say Britney then or now couldn't take Beyonce then or now is gonna have to fight me on that one. There is a certain flow you have when you've been trained to dance and when Beyonce is on stage, I don't see that. I never said she was a bad dancer, but Beyonce has never executed a style of dancing similar to Britney's and she never will because she's never be able to do it in heels. Like I said before, I would never want to see Britney attemp Single Ladies because it would just not look right... but I stand by the fact that Britney could do any choreography set thrown at her, then and now... but a lot of the stuff I've seen Britney throw into the mix, Beyonce could never. The day Beyonce gives me something as technical as Overprotect, Me Against the Music or even the ending of HIAM, then I just don't see it.
When all is said and done, Madonna is still the Queen and Beyonce and Britney are in their own respective lanes. However, like I said in the origianl post, there are so many aspects that would need to be compared and when done so, Britney surely comes out on top in my back.
Let me remind you that just because I stan for Britney doesn't mean I'm anti Beyonce. I've seen Bey live 7 times now and I love her...
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No one said mentioning the past is wrong, but Britney stans seem to have a habit of living in the past. You mention the past more than the present. You brag about the past more than you do than present. If Britney was as a consistent as you claimed you all wouldn't have to reach for sales and performances from the early 2000s because you could be grabbing performances & sales from 2011 if Britney hadn't ruined herself.
Beyoncé may not be getting #1 singles, but that is only one aspect of her career. She is still serving me number one albums, top notch vocals, top notch performances, and much more in 2011 just like she was serving them to me in the early 2000s.
Beyoncé stans are nawt gonna reach for past #1s just because she hasn't gotten any this era. We are gonna stick by 2011 Beyoncé. The KI is Britney stans are shading Britney for filth because y'all seem to be fixated on Old Britney. ITZ Britney, Blackout Britney (musically), and other things related to Old Britney.
And no Britney now couldn't take on Beyoncé dance wise.
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Every show she did on this tour she swag her hair every song did brit even sing a damn ballad
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Member Since: 7/21/2010
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Originally posted by Mister Martian
but not Britney then...
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Beyonce will and forEVER be BETTER than Britney
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Member Since: 11/26/2010
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Can I just say that I have never been here for Brit trying to dance in heels?
One only has to watch the famous 'Mannequin' rehearsal to see that she still has it. The four inch heels simply hold her back.
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Gaga would take it easly (The Crown) from Britney in the next 2 years !
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I am mad beyonce has to be compared to britney in the past
Britney doesnt want to see bey on stage now a day
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Member Since: 12/10/2010
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Madonna is the queen of pop. Maybe someone else will become queen after she's retired or passed away or maybe the title will forever be her's (MJ's still seen as King Of Pop). Either way none of the other gurls are close to queen yet so deal.
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Member Since: 3/30/2011
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Originally posted by Vertigo Stick
That is nothing to brag about, especially considering Britney's modern day performances are still lacking. This fact is even noted in your OP. What makes Madonna even more of the Queen of Pop is that she performs very well even at the age of 60.
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But I'm not trying to argue that Britney is the Queen of Pop. I'm preventing people from discrediting her past, which is unfair...
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Member Since: 6/4/2010
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Originally posted by Mister Martian
Excuse me for not taking the time to Google Britney's long list of records, awards and achievements, but let's not be late. It would be just as long, if not longer.
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I didn't have to Google because the tea is perched on ATRL. You were WRONG. Britney has not accomplished everything Beyoncé has. Let's nawt be late indeed.
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Originally posted by Mister Martian
Britney Spears - "The Obvious Choice"
She's been the most consistent artist of the past decade plus
Problem: Britney has seemingly lost her spark over the last few years, a problem that would get any real queen booted from the throne and replaced. On top of that, Britney hasn't put out a powerhouse album since 2003.
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contradiction?
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Originally posted by Robertlavigne
Madonna is the queen of pop. Maybe someone else will become queen after she's retired or passed away or maybe the title will forever be her's (MJ's still seen as King Of Pop). Either way none of the other gurls are close to queen yet so deal.
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Madonna will always be the Queen of Pop.
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Originally posted by GeezusHaberdash
Oh, & how many of y'all can list "memorable" Michael Jackson performances? Let's be real. Does that take away from him being the King Of Pop or being referred to as the best performer alive?
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Oop.
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Originally posted by Hi.Def
And no Britney now couldn't take on Beyoncé dance wise.
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the delusion
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Originally posted by Mister Martian
something as technical as Overprotect, Me Against the Music or even the ending of HIAM, then I just don't see it.
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You have no credibility, and as a dancer, I'd really like you to never attempt to talk about dance again.
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Originally posted by Hi.Def
No one said mentioning the past is wrong, but Britney stans seem to have a habit of living in the past. You mention the past more than the present. You brag about the past more than you do than present. If Britney was as a consistent as you claimed you all wouldn't have to reach for sales and performances from the early 2000s because you could be grabbing performances & sales from 2011 if Britney hadn't ruined herself.
Beyoncé may not be getting #1 singles, but that is only one aspect of her career. She is still serving me number one albums, top notch vocals, top notch performances, and much more in 2011 just like she was serving them to me in the early 2000s.
Beyoncé stans are nawt gonna reach for past #1s just because she hasn't gotten any this era. We are gonna stick by 2011 Beyoncé. The KI is Britney stans are shading Britney for filth because y'all seem to be fixated on Old Britney. ITZ Britney, Blackout Britney (musically), and other things related to Old Britney.
And no Britney now couldn't take on Beyoncé dance wise.
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But when we bring up new Britney's accomplishments, the Bey stans bring up old Britney. Why do you fear old Britney when she is being compared to Beyonce but try to use her against us when we praise Britney now?
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Let's make this quick cause I got go...
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Originally posted by Kisuke
I am mad beyonce has to be compared to britney in the past
Britney doesnt want to see bey on stage now a day
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You know her stans still live in back when TV's were in BLACK & WHITE. Living in 300 BC time
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Member Since: 11/26/2010
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Originally posted by Mister Martian
But I'm not trying to argue that Britney is the Queen of Pop. I'm preventing people from discrediting her past, which is unfair...
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And I can see where you're coming from - in this respect. I will NEVER stand by and let anyone discredit Brit's past achievements.
But I can also see where others are coming from. Beyonce has improved exponentially over the last fourteen years of her career, whereas Brit has not. If we're taking the entirety of their careers into consideration (which some, admittedly, are not), and, in particular, the last five or six years, B has given a better performance than Brit.
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Originally posted by Jameson Teqkilla
You have no credibility, and as a dancer, I'd really like you to never attempt to talk about dance again.
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How do I have no credibilty? I danced for 8 years. I danced with DDO for two and took classes at Millennium dance this past summer... who are you, by the way?
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Member Since: 12/1/2010
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Originally posted by Mister Martian
But I'm not trying to argue that Britney is the Queen of Pop. I'm preventing people from discrediting her past, which is unfair...
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That's because Britney fans are so stuck in her past that they fail to see the present. Britney stans easily, and always, have '99-'03 on their side for they always bring it up. People are not discrediting her past, just not hyping it up as much you all..probably because we're all aware that she is not doing what she did then now.
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