This generation is truly irredeemable. Slavery and the Holocaust are being compared in here as if to find the biggest victim.
It is SHAMEFUL that anti-semitism is now sheltered and protected under the guise of anti-Zionism and all of you here acting as if you're ready to sell your own mothers to harems just to see the Israelis returned to the gas chambers and ovens, and Israel obliterated.
I find it is SHAMEFUL that no one here remembers what happened to that El Al flight in 1968 or at the Olympics in Munich in 1972. How the Palestinians are made out to be saints and victims when they created terrorism as we know it today, when they terrorized Europe with their hijackings and bombings and explosions. How they blew up the supermarkets and squares of Tel Aviv and Jerusalem. How they occupied half of Jordan (The irony of all of you condemning Israel for the same thing your precious Palestinians did, does your hypocrisy and incoherence know no bounds?) .
How their false prophet and leader ad perpetuam until his death (that was Arafat, for those of you who are clearly so ignorant of history) would spend his days training kamikazes, including children, touring Europe and keeping the flame of anti-semitism alive, all while his minions were doing his killing for him.
How their government organizations have the eradication of the Jews in their charters.
I find it OUTRAGEOUS that no one has ever addressed my comments in previous pages about the mysterious borders of this so-called Palestinian state, a territory that roughly (to say!) corresponds with an area that was inhabited by Turks before the British mandate and Israel. That even Arafat couldn't draw for you on a map and responded as follows when prompted to give a physical location to the territory he claimed and that he sent so many people to kill for:
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From an Arab point of view, one doesn’t speak of borders; Palestine is a small dot in the great Arabic ocean. And our nation is the Arab one, it is a nation extending from the Atlantic to the Red Sea and beyond….borders have no importance. Arab unity is important, that’s all.”
It is REPULSIVE that in this matter, hate and genocide are absolved on one side only, and I condemn all of those who subscribe to an ideology that rivals, if not surpasses, Nazi-Fascism.
This generation is truly irredeemable. Slavery and the Holocaust are being compared in here as if to find the biggest victim.
It is SHAMEFUL that anti-semitism is now sheltered and protected under the guise of anti-Zionism and all of you here acting as if you're ready to sell your own mothers to harems just to see the Israelis returned to the gas chambers and ovens, and Israel obliterated.
I find it is SHAMEFUL that no one here remembers what happened to that El Al flight in 1968 or at the Olympics in Munich in 1972. How the Palestinians are made out to be saints and victims when they created terrorism as we know it today, when they terrorized Europe with their hijackings and bombings and explosions. How they blew up the supermarkets and squares of Tel Aviv and Jerusalem. How they occupied half of Jordan (The irony of all of you condemning Israel for the same thing your precious Palestinians did, does your hypocrisy and incoherence know no bounds?) .
How their false prophet and leader ad perpetuam until his death (that was Arafat, for those of you who are clearly so ignorant of history) would spend his days training kamikazes, including children, touring Europe and keeping the flame of anti-semitism alive, all while his minions were doing his killing for him.
How their government organizations have the eradication of the Jews in their charters.
I find it OUTRAGEOUS that no one has ever addressed my comments in previous pages about the mysterious borders of this so-called Palestinian state, a territory that roughly (to say!) corresponds with an area that was inhabited by Turks before the British mandate and Israel. That even Arafat couldn't draw for you on a map and responded as follows when prompted to give a physical location to the territory he claimed and that he sent so many people to kill for:
It is REPULSIVE that in this matter, hate and genocide are absolved on one side only, and I condemn all of those who subscribe to an ideology that rivals, if not surpasses, Nazi-Fascism.
Sorry to say but Holocaust has nothing to do Palestine. And what about all those massacres done by Israel? It's not a few or hundreds but thousand of Palestinians were killed. How do you justify that?
Israel can exist, but not in the way it wants - it can't create on land that isn't theirs, but that realization does not suggest it can't exist at all elsewhere. 1+1 =/= 3 as you're suggesting.
For someone who HATES SJWs, you sure do love now relying on empty statements.
You basically implied a Jewish senator was anti-semitic pages ago for not bowing down to the imperialist fist of Israeli imperialism & colonization.
It's also weird you're SO mad at Obama when the faces of France & the UK haven't said anything either and, unless I'm mistaken, their representative each voted Yes to the measure. For someone with documented anti-blackness, anti-brownness, etc. it's a little rich for you to now claim posters you disagree with have prejudice against a group of people who have fully transitioned into whiteness as the majority of Israeli Jews have. Asking white cops not to kill black people is "liberal propaganda" according to you, yet asking a colonizing state to end its systematic killings of an oppressed group is "being anti-semitic". Are you triggered by people asking murderous Zionists to stop murdering?
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Can we ALSO just talk about the sheer HYPOCRISY of people in this thread to even have the audacity to suggest Donald Trump is a president Jewish-Americans and Jews worldwide can trust? When the man has literal neo-nazis in his cabinet.
Obama is considered an "anti-semite" for trying to prevent what could easily lead to an ethnic cleansing of Palestinians, yet Trump & his team can meet with or be supported by neo-nazis and "white nationalist" pundits who claim "Jews don't have souls" and STILL be considered by many an "ally to Jews".
Anti-blackness is such a disease and vile mentality that it helps Nazis & Jews bond. This is 2016.
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The three Abrahamic religions are basically clones of one another with more overarching similarities and factual overlaps than differences?? By that mentality, Christianity is ALSO an inherently anti-semitic AND anti-islamic religion and Judaism is inherently anti-christian and anti-islamic as well.
Stop, this is asinine. The current generation of black people / people of the African diaspora in most anti-black countries still face the psychosocial and economic effects of slavery.
Ashkenazi Jews - as in European Jews aka White Jews (aka the majority of Jews who make-up the population of Israel and the Jewish population within the US) - have fully transitioned into whiteness and have been able to go from the victims of genocide to now a tool of colonization as a foot solider for bigger, more important Western powers.
The lives of white Jews in the US, Israel and even parts of Western Europe are nothing like the reality and power systems black people are still living in within most of the world, especially in the Americas. Ain't no black people out here colonizing people's neighborhoods in the US.
Sorry to say but Holocaust has nothing to do Palestine. And what about all those massacres done by Israel? It's not a few or hundreds but thousand of Palestinians were killed. How do you justify that?
As self-defense for everything that I outlined in my post. Israel had every bordering country declare war on it the day of its inception and has always needed to fight for its survival.
I truly hope your question was ironic, otherwise you should consider remedial English classes to work on reading comprehension. And I don't mean that facetiously, the answer to your question was clearly what my post was all about.
Here's what Noam Chomksy (he's Jewish, so keep your "anti-semitic" talk) had to say in 2014 about Israel's attacks on Gaza
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NOAM CHOMSKY: They want to maintain a certain situation. There’s a background. For over 20 years, Israel has been dedicated, with U.S. support, to separating Gaza from the West Bank. That’s in direct violation of the terms of the Oslo Accord 20 years ago, which declared that the West Bank and Gaza are a single territorial entity whose integrity must be preserved. But for rogue states, solemn agreements are just an invitation to do whatever you want. So Israel, with U.S. backing, has been committed to keeping them separate.
And there’s a good reason for that. Just look at the map. If Gaza is the only outlet to the outside world for any eventual Palestinian entity, whatever it might be, the West Bank—if separated from Gaza, the West Bank is essentially imprisoned—Israel on one side, the Jordanian dictatorship on the other. Furthermore, Israel is systematically driving Palestinians out of the Jordan Valley, sinking wells, building settlements. They first call them military zones, then put in settlements—the usual story. That would mean that whatever cantons are left for Palestinians in the West Bank, after Israel takes what it wants and integrates it into Israel, they would be completely imprisoned. Gaza would be an outlet to the outside world, so therefore keeping them separate from one another is a high goal of policy, U.S. and Israeli policy.
And the unity agreement threatened that. Threatened something else Israel has been claiming for years. One of its arguments for kind of evading negotiations is: How can they negotiate with the Palestinians when they’re divided? Well, OK, so if they’re not divided, you lose that argument. But the more significant one is simply the geostrategic one, which is what I described. So the unity government was a real threat, along with the tepid, but real, endorsement of it by the United States, and they immediately reacted.
Very eye-opening and makes a lot of sense, politically. Of course a lot of Israelis probably don't even know this, though they know that Israel is illegally occupying Palestinian lands, so I don't know why they're okay with that.
The settlements start out as military zones, then they start building illegal houses and roads, adding checkpoints, putting up fences, literally stealing lands. It's insane.
Israel needs to get it together. I only believe in the 1 state solution (the inclusion of Palestinians in Israeli society, with reperations paid to those who lost their lands and still hold the deeds), but I don't know if we'll get there before all the Palestinians are dead. Let's hope so.
Israel can exist, but not in the way it wants - it can't create on land that isn't theirs, but that realization does not suggest it can't exist at all elsewhere. 1+1 =/= 3 as you're suggesting.
For someone who HATES SJWs, you sure do love now relying on empty statements.
You basically implied a Jewish senator was anti-semitic pages ago for not bowing down to the imperialist fist of Israeli imperialism & colonization.
It's also weird you're SO mad at Obama when the faces of France & the UK haven't said anything either and, unless I'm mistaken, their representative each voted Yes to the measure. For someone with documented anti-blackness, anti-brownness, etc. it's a little rich for you to now claim posters you disagree with have prejudice against a group of people who have fully transitioned into whiteness as the majority of Israeli Jews have. Asking white cops not to kill black people is "liberal propaganda" according to you, yet asking a colonizing state to end its systematic killings of an oppressed group is "being anti-semitic". Are you triggered by people asking murderous Zionists to stop murdering?
Thank you for speaking for me and for so many Voiceless people! If only the ignornce would diminish...
Here's what Noam Chomksy (he's Jewish, so keep your "anti-semitic" talk) had to say in 2014 about Israel's attacks on Gaza
Very eye-opening and makes a lot of sense, politically. Of course a lot of Israelis probably don't even know this, though they know that Israel is illegally occupying Palestinian lands, so I don't know why they're okay with that.
The settlements start out as military zones, then they start building illegal houses and roads, adding checkpoints, putting up fences, literally stealing lands. It's insane.
Israel needs to get it together. I only believe in the 1 state solution (the inclusion of Palestinians in Israeli society, with reperations paid to those who lost their lands and still hold the deeds), but I don't know if we'll get there before all the Palestinians are dead. Let's hope so.
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I mean, a lot of Jewish people acknowledge Israel's wrong doings.
Albert Einstein himself:
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I should much rather see reasonable agreement with the Arabs on the basis of living together in peace than the creation of a Jewish state. Apart from the practical considerations, my awareness of the essential nature of Judaism resists the idea of a Jewish state with borders, an army, and a measure of temporal power no matter how modest. I am afraid of the inner damage Judaism will sustain – especially from the development of a narrow nationalism within our own ranks, against which we have already had to fight without a Jewish state.
- National Labor Committee for Palestine, in New York, on April 17, 1938
The three Abrahamic religions are basically clones of one another with more overarching similarities and factual overlaps than differences?? By that mentality, Christianity is ALSO an inherently anti-semitic AND anti-islamic religion and Judaism is inherently anti-christian and anti-islamic as well.
Christianity is anti-Islamic, yes, but only because the two religions are antitheses of each other. Far from being "clones of one another," Islam is actually the stunning direct opposite of Christianity. Christianity is the completed form of Judaism. The former encompasses the latter. They are not the same. And Islam was basically conceived to invalidate Christianity (much like how the New Testament/Christianity was meant to invalidate/supersede the Old Testament/Judaism) and revert it back to Judaism and recontextualize the whole religion. Judaism and Islam have more in common with each other than either has with Christianity because Islam is based on the Old Testament/Judaism, and rejects the New Testament, the centerpiece of Christianity.
But is Christianity inherently anti-semitic? No. That's not possible since its founders, prophets and the biblical authors and gospel writers were all Jewish. Anti-semitism is not inherent to Christianity. You're conflating it with the anti-Jewish hatred of Europeans which goes back in the imperial era in Rome (and predates Christianity) and has been carried over through the Middle Ages into the 20th century.
Here's what Noam Chomksy (he's Jewish, so keep your "anti-semitic" talk) had to say in 2014 about Israel's attacks on Gaza
Quote:
NOAM CHOMSKY: They want to maintain a certain situation. There’s a background. For over 20 years, Israel has been dedicated, with U.S. support, to separating Gaza from the West Bank. That’s in direct violation of the terms of the Oslo Accord 20 years ago, which declared that the West Bank and Gaza are a single territorial entity whose integrity must be preserved. But for rogue states, solemn agreements are just an invitation to do whatever you want. So Israel, with U.S. backing, has been committed to keeping them separate.
And there’s a good reason for that. Just look at the map. If Gaza is the only outlet to the outside world for any eventual Palestinian entity, whatever it might be, the West Bank—if separated from Gaza, the West Bank is essentially imprisoned—Israel on one side, the Jordanian dictatorship on the other. Furthermore, Israel is systematically driving Palestinians out of the Jordan Valley, sinking wells, building settlements. They first call them military zones, then put in settlements—the usual story. That would mean that whatever cantons are left for Palestinians in the West Bank, after Israel takes what it wants and integrates it into Israel, they would be completely imprisoned. Gaza would be an outlet to the outside world, so therefore keeping them separate from one another is a high goal of policy, U.S. and Israeli policy.
And the unity agreement threatened that. Threatened something else Israel has been claiming for years. One of its arguments for kind of evading negotiations is: How can they negotiate with the Palestinians when they’re divided? Well, OK, so if they’re not divided, you lose that argument. But the more significant one is simply the geostrategic one, which is what I described. So the unity government was a real threat, along with the tepid, but real, endorsement of it by the United States, and they immediately reacted.
Very eye-opening and makes a lot of sense, politically. Of course a lot of Israelis probably don't even know this, though they know that Israel is illegally occupying Palestinian lands, so I don't know why they're okay with that.
The settlements start out as military zones, then they start building illegal houses and roads, adding checkpoints, putting up fences, literally stealing lands. It's insane.
Israel needs to get it together. I only believe in the 1 state solution (the inclusion of Palestinians in Israeli society, with reperations paid to those who lost their lands and still hold the deeds), but I don't know if we'll get there before all the Palestinians are dead. Let's hope so.
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Originally posted by Ressti
mess
I mean, a lot of Jewish people acknowledge Israel's wrong doings.
Albert Einstein himself:
Quote:
I should much rather see reasonable agreement with the Arabs on the basis of living together in peace than the creation of a Jewish state. Apart from the practical considerations, my awareness of the essential nature of Judaism resists the idea of a Jewish state with borders, an army, and a measure of temporal power no matter how modest. I am afraid of the inner damage Judaism will sustain – especially from the development of a narrow nationalism within our own ranks, against which we have already had to fight without a Jewish state.
- National Labor Committee for Palestine, in New York, on April 17, 1938
Christianity is anti-Islamic, yes, but only because the two religions are antitheses of each other. Far from being "clones of one another," Islam is actually the stunning direct opposite of Christianity. Christianity is the completed form of Judaism. The former encompasses the latter. They are not the same. And Islam was basically conceived to invalidate Christianity (much like how the New Testament/Christianity was meant to invalidate/supersede the Old Testament/Judaism) and revert it back to Judaism and recontextualize the whole religion. Judaism and Islam have more in common with each other than either has with Christianity because Islam is based on the Old Testament/Judaism, and rejects the New Testament, the centerpiece of Christianity.
But is Christianity inherently anti-semitic? No. That's not possible since its founders, prophets and the biblical authors and gospel writers were all Jewish. Anti-semitism is not inherent to Christianity. You're conflating it with the anti-Jewish hatred of Europeans which goes back in the imperial era in Rome (and predates Christianity) and has been carried over through the Middle Ages into the 20th century.
What are you even talking about? Islam sees itself as the final revelation, after both the New and Old Testaments The Qur'an recognizes the validity of most of the Bible, but believes some parts of it became corrupted - hence why the Qur'an hasn't changed the way it was written since its inception. Jesus is revered as a saint in Islam. None of these religions are meant to invalidate one another, they just see themselves as continuations of the old faith. The Qur'an views Jews, Christians, and certain other religions as "of the book," meaning that these people are to be respected by true Muslims. I say this as a Christian, before anyone tries to accuse me of Muslim propaganda.
The Qur'an recognizes the validity of most of the Bible, but believes some parts of it became corrupted - hence why the Qur'an hasn't changed the way it was written since its inception. Jesus is revered as a saint in Islam. None of these religions are meant to invalidate one another, they just see themselves as continuations of the old faith. The Qur'an views Jews, Christians, and certain other religions as "of the book," meaning that these people are to be respected by true Muslims. I say this as a Christian, before anyone tries to accuse me of Muslim propaganda.