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Discussion: Why did Bey & P!nk outlast Brit, Xtina & JLO?
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Originally posted by DanceAgain
jennifer has sold more then 35 million ALBUMS as Sony as stated from there own mouth would SONY lie? and beyonce has sold twice as much is singles sales because shes released twice as many singles
and how many times has beyonce re-released her albums?
your making one rule for beyonce i see!
beyonce has done x3 more stuff then JLo musically and only seen similar global success (minus digital singles but then again she has released god knows how many) then jennifer!
beyonces album do not selll millions worldwide and she cant get hit singles either you should be thankful she can still tour like she does not every one has a career Like Jlo that doesn't have to rely on one venture!
back to the original topic why has beyonce passed JLo? she hasn't.
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It does not matter how you try and sugar coat it, the bottom line is that throughout her career whether its solo or with DC, Bey has sold MANY more records than Jen, seriously talking to you is like talking to a fuking brick wall.
Bey's albums don't sell millions worldwide? LOL
Dangerously In Love (sales outside of US) - 6m
B'Day (sales outside of US) - 3.1m
IASF (sales outside of US) - 5m
4 (sales outside of US) - 1.8m
BEYONCE (sales outside of US) - 3m
Lemonade (sales outside of US) - 1m
All sold over 1m outside of US so your point of she cant sell "millions" outside of the US is completely invalid.
Why has Beyoncé surpassed Jen? Because she's sold more singles, more albums, out toured, out awarded, is way more critically acclaimed, is more respected etc. The only thing Jen has over Beyoncé is movies/tv which I really don't care about, so you can keep that, or maybe shove it up where the sun don't shine whichever you choose to do, do it quietly.
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This decade :
JLO
Albums : 2,4M
Singles : 22,4M
Total records sold : 24,8M
Beyoncé
Albums : 9,7M
Singles : 28,1M
Total records sold : 37,8M
Britney
Albums : 2,7M
Singles : 24,5M
Total records sold : 27,2M
Pink
Albums : 6M (Pink's receipts thread don't provide sales estimate for Rose ave..)
Singles : 21,6M
Total records sold : 27,6M
Christina
Albums : 500K
Singles : Her receipt thread has Moves Like Jagger at 17M WW She's at 15,4M without MLJ, I'm waiting for confirmation of that figure or for a more realistic estimation !
Total record solds : 15,9M (32,9 with 17M coming from MLJ )
So yeah, Bey is doing way better, but then between the other 3 (Brit, JLO, Pink) I don't really see a lot of differences apart from Pink being a much stronger album seller. They're all doing very well actually. Brit & JLO & Xtina debuted in 1999, Pink in 2000. Beyoncé debuted in 2003. Almost half a decade later than Brit & JLO & Xtina so I don't know why they're compared as if they're peers. Nobody really debuted in 2003-2004, so if anything she's more Rihanna's peer who debuted in 2005, or Taylor in 2006.
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Originally posted by QueenB4
It does not matter how you try and sugar coat it, the bottom line is that throughout her career whether its solo or with DC, Bey has sold MANY more records than Jen, seriously talking to you is like talking to a fuking brick wall.
Bey's albums don't sell millions worldwide? LOL
Dangerously In Love (sales outside of US) - 6m
B'Day (sales outside of US) - 3.1m
IASF (sales outside of US) - 5m
4 (sales outside of US) - 1.8m
BEYONCE (sales outside of US) - 3m
Lemonade (sales outside of US) - 1m
All sold over 1m outside of US so your point of she cant sell "millions" outside of the US is completely invalid.
Why has Beyoncé surpassed Jen? Because she's sold more singles, more albums, out toured, out awarded, is way more critically acclaimed, is more respected etc. The only thing Jen has over Beyoncé is movies/tv which I really don't care about, so you can keep that, or maybe shove it up where the sun don't shine whichever you choose to do, do it quietly.
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on the six- 5 Million WW
JLo- 6 million WW
the remixes - 2.1 million WW
this is me then - 4 million WW
rebirth - 2 million WW
love? - 1.2 Million WW
CAUM- 1.1 million WW
brave- 750,000 WW
Dance Again the hits 650,000 WW
JLo's sold around 23-25 million Albums WW and around 13 million in the US = OVER 35 million albums sold
beyonce sold around 19 million Albums WW
so beyonce would also need to release 2-3 more albums to match JLo sales outside the US so on average they are equal in album sales
And jennifer has only re-released the JLo album once and this is me then once! and didnt tour untill 2012 and only rleased around 18 singles commerically last decade!
so Jennifers album sales have been aot bigger then beyonce WW with no tour and less singles....... just saying and like i said she has yet to sell more albums then Pink, xtina, and britney she maybe be doing better right now but in this sales climate she probably never gonna pass them in album sales
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Originally posted by QueenB4
All debut in the late 90's, all were huge stars yet Beyoncé and P!nk are the only ones currently relevant today and are the only ones capable of moving albums and touring the globe.
Why is this?
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Nope
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Originally posted by DanceAgain
on the six- 5 Million WW
JLo- 6 million WW
the remixes - 2.1 million WW
this is me then - 4 million WW
rebirth - 2 million WW
love? - 1.2 Million WW
CAUM- 1.1 million WW
brave- 750,000 WW
JLo's sold around 23-25 million Albums WW and around 13 million in the US = OVER 35 million albums sold
beyonce sold around 19 million Albums WW
so Jennifers album sales have been aot bigger then beyonce WW
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Now that's a lie.
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Originally posted by DanceAgain
on the six- 5 Million WW
JLo- 6 million WW
the remixes - 2.1 million WW
this is me then - 4 million WW
rebirth - 2 million WW
love? - 1.2 Million WW
CAUM- 1.1 million WW
brave- 750,000 WW
JLo's sold around 23-25 million Albums WW and around 13 million in the US = OVER 35 million albums sold
beyonce sold around 19 million Albums WW
so Jennifers album sales have been aot bigger then beyonce WW
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Not you coming in here posting them severely over-inflated receipts
and even if they were real receipts (which there not) and you know for a blatant fact that they aren't it does not change the fact that Bey has sold more records. Be all and end all.
Claiming On The 6 sold 6m outside the US when it's total sales stand between 6-7m
Ive seen it all now.
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Quote:
Originally posted by DanceAgain
on the six- 5 Million WW
JLo- 6 million WW
the remixes - 2.1 million WW
this is me then - 4 million WW
rebirth - 2 million WW
love? - 1.2 Million WW
CAUM- 1.1 million WW
brave- 750,000 WW
Dance Again the hits 650,000 WW
JLo's sold around 23-25 million Albums WW and around 13 million in the US = OVER 35 million albums sold
beyonce sold around 19 million Albums WW
And jennifer has only re-released the JLo album once and this is me then once! and didnt tour untill 2012 and only rleased around 18 singles commerically last decade!
so Jennifers album sales have been aot bigger then beyonce WW with no tour and less singles....... just saying and like i said she has yet to sell more albums then Pink, xtina, and britney she maybe be doing better right now but in this sales climate she probably never gonna pass them in album sales
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* with Dangerously in Love and IASF only.
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Lmfao
Jlo sold 33M albums with 10 releases, Beyoncé 35M with 6 releases.
35 > 33
Beyoncé's musical career > Jlo's
Jlo was never able to keep up. Bey was the #4 Billboard Artist of the 2000's (top female) while Jlo was out of the top 20. And let's not try it with her album sales this decade, girl bye
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Originally posted by *-ChriZ-*
* with Dangerously in Love and IASF only.
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beyonces first 2 albums did not sell 19 million outside the US
And beyonce First album did not even sell 10 million worldwide combined thats just the numbers the hive throw around
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Quote:
Originally posted by DanceAgain
beyonces first 2 albums did not sell 19 million outside the US
And beyonce First album did not even sell 10 million worldwide combined thats just the numbers the hive throw around
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Oh you meant 19M outside the US ? Sounds more believable then
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Britney shouldn't be in that list.
P!nk: Talent
Bey: Connections
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Originally posted by feelslikeadream
Britney shouldn't be in that list.
P!nk: Talent
Bey: Connections
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I'm all for not putting her on a pedestal she do not deserves, but really ?
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They have more to them than their good looks
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Originally posted by Crescendolls.
Lmfao
Jlo sold 33M albums with 10 releases, Beyoncé 35M with 6 releases.
35 > 33
Beyoncé's musical career > Jlo's
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jennifers at 33 million albums just of certified sales alone SIS and like i said
JLo sold more albums WW then beyonce and JLo has released 7 English studio albums and beyonce has released 6
if you want to add all album sales then beyonce's spanish record she put makes 7 and how many re-releases of her albums is there? how many more singles has released? and shes a big touring act and yet equal in sales with JLo whos only done 1 tour 12 years into her career released less singles and only put out 2 re-releases
dont that make JLos success even better shes done way less then beyonce musically and still seen the same album sales (outsold her outside the US)
AND LIKE I SAID BEYONCE IS MILLIONS OF ALBUMS BEHIND PINK, XTINA, BRITNEY
beyonce stays doing the most over her peers but has yet to out sell them
im done with this I respect beyonce as a performer and think the lemonade short film was absolutey fantastic and shes light years artistically over all her peers but stop down playing other peoples success to make beyonces shine
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Quote:
Originally posted by FBF
This decade :
JLO
Albums : 2,4M
Singles : 22,4M
Total records sold : 24,8M
Beyoncé
Albums : 9,7M
Singles : 28,1M
Total records sold : 37,8M
Britney
Albums : 2,7M
Singles : 24,5M
Total records sold : 27,2M
Pink
Albums : 6M (Pink's receipts thread don't provide sales estimate for Rose ave..)
Singles : 21,6M
Total records sold : 27,6M
Christina
Albums : 500K
Singles : Her receipt thread has Moves Like Jagger at 17M WW She's at 15,4M without MLJ, I'm waiting for confirmation of that figure or for a more realistic estimation !
Total record solds : 15,9M (32,9 with 17M coming from MLJ )
So yeah, Bey is doing way better, but then between the other 3 (Brit, JLO, Pink) I don't really see a lot of differences apart from Pink being a much stronger album seller. They're all doing very well actually. Brit & JLO & Xtina debuted in 1999, Pink in 2000. Beyoncé debuted in 2003. Almost half a decade later than Brit & JLO & Xtina so I don't know why they're compared as if they're peers. Nobody really debuted in 2003-2004, so if anything she's more Rihanna's peer who debuted in 2005, or Taylor in 2006.
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You may as well attach the touring receipts as well.
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Quote:
Originally posted by feelslikeadream
Britney shouldn't be in that list.
P!nk: Talent
Bey: Connections
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What kind of connections does one need to have to make people get out of their bed to buy their music, tour tickets, etc; and why are the other girls incapable of making the same connections if they were as big of a star at one point?
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..what the actual **** is this thread
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Beyoncé/Pink = album sales
JLo/Britney = single sales
Xtina = none
That's the real deal
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Originally posted by feelslikeadream
Britney shouldn't be in that list.
P!nk: Talent
Bey: Connections
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If connections could give someone a successful musical career, Paris Hilton, Cassie and Kim Kardashian should have been selling millions of records, right?
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