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Discussion: What happened to Rihanna?
Member Since: 6/9/2011
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Originally posted by ManDown
Rated R:
Loud:
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She's the LAST one mentioned on like every track, which means she contributed the LEAST. I CAN'T. 
Thanx for posting that, I can use that as a future receipt when I say how Rihanna contributes little to nothing to her "art" and that receipt basically proves it. Thanx for giving me the upper hand for future dragging sessions.
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Member Since: 5/18/2011
Posts: 17,136
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Originally posted by Wonda
Why is her writing songs soo important though? I know it's your opinion, and I'm not asking you to change it, but I'd like some insight as to why you place so much importance on who's name is beside what in the album booklet.
I'm sure that if she wanted to, she could just buy the credits, and you wouldn't know the difference. I'm not saying that's something she should/would do, but I don't see how an album would benefit (sound-wise, quality-wise) if Rihanna was the one writing and not a paid, professional songwriter. It'd be cute to have her name and not someone else's in the writing credits, but I definitely don't think it's a big deal at all.
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I'm not even saying she has to write a whole damn album, but I want to see where she takes it. I know songwriters often write songs for Rihanna and she often lends her imput, but no one can ever truly express you and your feelings better than yourself. That is all. I want some songs where I can sit and listen and feel Rihanna. That's all. I do appreciate songs like LTWYL and Russian Roulette because even though she didn't write them, she at least relates to them and you can tell she has a personal relationship with them when she performs them. I love that, but at the same time I just wants to see what direction she takes certain subjects when she sings.
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Member Since: 6/9/2011
Posts: 16,500
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Originally posted by YaBoiJay18
See where that got her....  |
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Member Since: 12/1/2010
Posts: 23,572
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Rihanna fans are quick to toss Rated R at any person who claim Rihanna does not run deep. I don't blame them. Rated R was not the typical direction people expected Rihanna to take after the Good Girl Gone Bad. Lyrically and production wise, the album is a stand out for Rihanna. My only problem is that it doesn't really make Rihanna any more or less creative. For one, her co-writing credits are really her telling professional writers how she felt - thus creating a few basic lines which were likely altered by the professionals. Rihanna receiving co-writing credits is an obvious 'yeah, I can write my own music too.' But no. Rihanna is not a songwriter. Songwriters write their own songs, all the time, about any and everything. '21' is the perfect example. So yes, props to Rihanna for getting the help of professionals - but this doesn't make her a songwriter. Her fans should toss that bone elsewhere  The question should be why are Rihanna's writers not writing her deep music....
And I don't see the point in seeking profound meanings through Rihanna's music :/ She makes great dance/party music and there is nothing wrong with that. I have my select artists I go to when I need songs to relate to, and Rihanna is not one of them (exception of the flawless Firebomb). I hear 'Cheers' on the weekends and it is a great drinking song 
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Member Since: 5/17/2010
Posts: 21,708
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Originally posted by i spit on haters
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She's the LAST one mentioned on like every track, which means she contributed the LEAST. I CAN'T.
Thanx for posting that, I can use that as a future receipt when I say how Rihanna contributes little to nothing to her "art" and that receipt basically proves it. Thanx for giving me the upper hand for future dragging sessions. |
Now girl...
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Member Since: 1/12/2011
Posts: 2,793
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Originally posted by KoreanDream
i spit on haters said artistry. In that department, Rihanna has contributed more than Brit Brit.
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I really don't want to sound like a bitch or flaimebait or whatever cause I really like you. So in my nicest way: What has Rihanna contributed artistically? Her visuals that many of her fans give her credit for are usually copied out of editorials (LOUD Album Booklet/S&M/Only Girl). I've seen a video of Brit discussing her video concept with the Director (which she didn't get sued for). She also hasn't written herself a song. Didn't Brit Brit write herself Everytime? I don't know of and can't really think of anymore but I don't see how it is so laughable that Brit has contibuted more to her 'image/sound' than Rihanna.
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Member Since: 6/1/2010
Posts: 65,177
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Rihanna is not a singer-songwriter (yes, she sings and has "written" (  ) a few songs in her catalog), but she is a label puppet just like all the other girls out there. She and her label are here for hits, and they have made that very clear by the type of music they release. Rated R was a nice attempt at being "deep" (it's her best album, IMO), but it was a semi-dud, too. Her biggest hit from that album was "Rude Boy."  Are people really here for "deep Rihanna?" Some of you act like Rihanna has supreme creative control over her music and sound anyway. Good laughs.
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Member Since: 6/7/2011
Posts: 22,128
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Originally posted by crumprKID
I really don't want to sound like a bitch or flaimebait or whatever cause I really like you. So in my nicest way: What has Rihanna contributed artistically? Her visuals that many of her fans give her credit for are usually copied out of editorials (LOUD Album Booklet/S&M/Only Girl). I've seen a video of Brit discussing her video concept with the Director (which she didn't get sued for). She also hasn't written herself a song. Didn't Brit Brit write herself Everytime? I don't know of and can't really think of anymore but I don't see how it is so laughable that Brit has contibuted more to her 'image/sound' than Rihanna.
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Rihanna was the one who came up with the concepts behind Rated R and Loud and carried them both out through album booklets, videos, and tours. Sure, some has been accused of plagiarism, but many artists who are considered "creative" have experienced the same.
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Member Since: 8/10/2010
Posts: 9,489
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Originally posted by BadBitch
You guys ALWAYS seem to be messing it . Is it bad that i want better music from her? Especially since i KNOW she can deliver it. Idc If it's pop,rock, indie, reggae, dance w/e! I just want rihanna to live up to herself. She's better than WFL, LOUD and these meaningless quick hits. 
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They don't seem to get that with rated r rihanna contributed more, thus making it more personal and the music all around better. YES, it was a hard time for her, but just because that period of her life is over, she should go back to being a puppet? When rihanna is the yes man, she makes fast food music. They dont understand that we as fans see that she can create better music if she get's serious.
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Member Since: 11/11/2010
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The thing about Rihanna is that she isn't claiming that she is making personal, deep, or serious music....she is actually pretty adamant about just having fun. Her music reflects that...Rihanna is more an entertainer rather than an artist...so why can't she just make music she loves that people enjoy listening to? Not everyone has to have a deep purpose to their music
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Member Since: 4/1/2010
Posts: 1,412
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Originally posted by Hi.Def
He didn't say **** about Britney/Bey/Katy's sales nor did he name things they excel in and compare those things to Rihanna.
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Originally posted by i spit on haters
A pop heavyweight in what sense? it's her 1st album to finally sell over 200,000 copies in the 1st week here in the states. Granted it's selling at a steady pace but I wouldn't call her a "pop heavyweight" -- "snubbed" two years in a row by the VMAs and Katy Perry has been destroying her in digital sales as well as on the charts.  |
oo. what now?
Why so butthurt? 
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Member Since: 10/19/2010
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Rihanna also comes up with the concept of EVERY VIDEO, she stated it many times. She comes up with the concept, send it to directors, and chooses the ones best fit her concept.
She co-directed many of her videos, pretty sure she is the main of WFL judging from the pics.
The only thing she needs to do a bit more is songwriting, I am sure she did that in this 6th album. Loud was quick and probably just an exception.
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Member Since: 6/9/2011
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Originally posted by Onen
Britney has done the same with past albums. Rihanna's LOUD is equivalent to Britney's FEMME FATALE album. Britney is actually more hands on with her material than you think...just putting it out there.
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Thank you, some of the navy members are TRYING it with me, I just came here to drop my opinions/facts on a thread that's discussing RIHANNA and RIHANNA only. They trying to come for me because I stan for Britney, who's irrelevant to this thread, as is Beyonce, Katy & Ke$ha and who ever else they try to bring up to derail the attention off of Rihanna.
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Member Since: 11/11/2010
Posts: 28,420
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Originally posted by i spit on haters
She's the LAST one mentioned on like every track, which means she contributed the LEAST. I CAN'T.
Thanx for posting that, I can use that as a future receipt when I say how Rihanna contributes little to nothing to her "art" and that receipt basically proves it. Thanx for giving me the upper hand for future dragging sessions.
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Why does it matter where she is in the credits? Atleast she has received songwriting credits. 
Yes, she contributes absolutely nothing. The album credits were paid for. Who knows, she probably doesn't even record her own vocals. They probably pay somebody for that, too.
I have yet to see you drag Rihanna. You are in every single Rihanna thread before I am usually, and it's always the same tired ass posts. "Rihanna isn't creative", "flop", "she contributes nothing", etc. I feel like you spend more time in Rihanna threads than in Britney threads. Don't flatter yourself, boo.
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Member Since: 9/16/2011
Posts: 18,555
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Originally posted by KoreanDream
Cute how you stay bringing up the U.S. as if her career and achievements internationally are irrelevant.
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Well, the USA is the biggest music market. And I bet a lot of those Facebook followers are from America. Do those followers have no spare change in their pockets to see Rih live?
And what about Brazil? The venues seemed to be quite empty there as well. Or is Rihanna the MEGA internatinal act that she is if only the Navy gets to choose which countries are a part of the world?
So many questions. Barely any answers.
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Member Since: 5/3/2010
Posts: 26,013
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Originally posted by i spit on haters
She's the LAST one mentioned on like every track, which means she contributed the LEAST. I CAN'T.
Thanx for posting that, I can use that as a future receipt when I say how Rihanna contributes little to nothing to her "art" and that receipt basically proves it. Thanx for giving me the upper hand for future dragging sessions.
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Future dragging sessions? Hopefully they are better than the show you are trying to put up in here, because you have brought up nothing but falsities and hypocrisy.
I also think that it's worth mentioning that Rihanna probably just isn't in the lane to make overly mature / deep music. She's 23. While Katy, Bey, and Brit are nearing 30 and probably should be making more mature music, I don't think it's fair to automatically assume the same from Rihanna.
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Member Since: 6/7/2011
Posts: 22,128
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Originally posted by i spit on haters
Thank you, some of the navy members are TRYING it with me, I just came here to drop my opinions/facts on a thread that's discussing RIHANNA and RIHANNA only. They trying to come for me because I stan for Britney, who's irrelevant to this thread, as is Beyonce, Katy & Ke$ha and who ever else they try to bring up to derail the attention off of Rihanna.
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Girl, please. You did not come here "just to state your opinion". You came here to argue.
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Member Since: 6/4/2010
Posts: 38,919
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Someone told me Rihanna tweeted something negative about LOUD. Does she even like the album?
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Member Since: 10/28/2009
Posts: 26,465
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Originally posted by iBeyoncé.
Now sis The Navy is at fault for no more Rated R.
I mean 2.5 million vs 6 million
Like I said Coin>>>>> |
ironically, Rihanna had more credit on Rated R so she probably made more coin with that 2.5M than she did with LOUD's 6M. The label is the one seeing the money from that.
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Member Since: 11/11/2010
Posts: 28,420
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Originally posted by RedDlicious
The thing about Rihanna is that she isn't claiming that she is making personal, deep, or serious music....she is actually pretty adamant about just having fun. Her music reflects that...Rihanna is more an entertainer rather than an artist...so why can't she just make music she loves that people enjoy listening to? Not everyone has to have a deep purpose to their music
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THANK YOU! 
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