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Discussion: Archived: The J-Pop Discussion Thread (#1)
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Originally posted by SO.UNCOOL™
What is there to giggle about? Namie has been the top solo female when it comes to albums sales for awhile now so it makes complete sense for him to say Namie has the best chance to sell 1 million copies versus the other girls.
Let's not forget Utada couldn't get her farewell best to hit 500k back in 2010.
You seem to not exactly understand how really big Namie's impact in Japan is. This isn't the first time you've undermined her in this thread. No she hasn't sold as many records as Utada but she is just as influential if not more influential among the Japanese public as Utada. Please do your research sis.
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That's only because of the infrequent times she releases albums. Koda Kumi and Ayumi Hamasaki release much more albums in a shorter time span, so you can't really compare that. Kuu was pregrant, Ayumi had a divorce to battle with, so it's no wonder they underperformed with their recent efforts. When they're back in full force they're going to triple what Namie sells with all her effort.
You are the presed one, it seems. There were no physical singles to promote SCV2, so I would say 500k is quite good for that. It's as much as Namie's studio albums sell, supported with at least 3-4 physical singles.
I know that Namie is a respected artist in Japan. She's sold quite a few records and holds some honorific titles under her belt. The facts are clear though: She just can't compete with Utada & Ayumi on any level. They got her YEARS ago and I'm not only talking about sales wise.
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Kumi has launched an official fan community where she and her staff will post exclusive photos and updates. It's basically the same exact thing as littmonsters.com
Best part is that it's worldwide. Hopefully this is the start of Avex becoming more open to international fans. 
Link if anyone needs it - http://kodakumi.jp
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Originally posted by Chunk
That's only because of the infrequent times she releases albums. Koda Kumi and Ayumi Hamasaki release much more albums in a shorter time span, so you can't really compare that. Kuu was pregrant, Ayumi had a divorce to battle with, so it's no wonder they underperformed with their recent efforts. When they're back in full force they're going to triple what Namie sells with all her effort. |
What you said in bold is 100% true but the last sentence is a mess sis. 
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Namie's third place is still respectable though.  Especially cause she's more of a dancer than a musical artist.
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Originally posted by Britneyfan09
Kumi has launched an official fan community where she and her staff will post exclusive photos and updates. It's basically the same exact thing as littmonsters.com
Best part is that it's worldwide. Hopefully this is the start of Avex becoming more open to international fans.
Link if anyone needs it - http://kodakumi.jp |
Sounds great. Maybe I'm going to register there. 
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Oh lawdddd. I don't even know why I even bother with Chunk.
No disrespect to both Kumi & Ayu but they have been on a decline for several years now, a divorce and pregnancy is no excuse.
& if you honestly think Ayu & Kumi are gonna triple Namie's 'Uncontrolled' album (which is closing in on 500k) with thier next efforts your are clearly delusional 
& yes Utada & Ayu snatched Namie's wig in the 90s but Namie came right back ten years later which speaks volumes and is an incredible feat tbh. Namie is 20 years into her career and is going as strong as ever.
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Originally posted by Chunk
That's only because of the infrequent times she releases albums. Koda Kumi and Ayumi Hamasaki release much more albums in a shorter time span, so you can't really compare that. Kuu was pregrant, Ayumi had a divorce to battle with, so it's no wonder they underperformed with their recent efforts. When they're back in full force they're going to triple what Namie sells with all her effort.
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A hot ass mess
You do realize even before PQ & Japonesque that Kumi and Ayumi were on the decline with album sales right?
The bolded part is just beyond delusional I almost think you were just trolling 
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Originally posted by Kworb
Namie's third place is still respectable though. Especially cause she's more of a dancer than a musical artist. |
Subjective. I, for one, think she's really overrated as a dancer. She's definitely better than most of females in J-pop, but I wouldn't call her a professional either. I watched her latest tour with so many hopes of being slayed with a great show that includes lots of overwhelming choreographies and a fantastic sound production, but all I got was 2 hours of Namie Amuro making a forced facial expression that didn't change the ENTIRE SHOW. Those uninspired dance moves weren't cutting it either. Even the performance of my favorite song of hers, WILD, left me disappointed.
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Originally posted by SO.UNCOOL™
Here are the ones I remember from the top of my head:
-Highest selling solo female physical single of all time (1997's "CAN YOU CELEBRATE")
-Highest attened tour of all time for a solo female artist (Over 500k fans across Japan, China and Taiwan for her 2008-2009 BEST FICTION TOUR)
-Only solo female artist to have a number one album in her teen years, twenties & thirties.
-The first female solo singer since 1979 to have an album occupy the number-one spot on the Oricon Chart for 6 weeks in a row (BEST FICTION in 2008)
I know there's more I'm forgetting, 'Uncontrolled' broke some records aswell but I forget them lol, I'll have to search for those.
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Oh! Thats impressive 
Queen Namie got some girls pressed, i see.
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Originally posted by Chunk
Subjective. I, for one, think she's really overrated as a dancer. She's definitely better than most of females in J-pop, but I wouldn't call her a professional either. I watched her latest tour with so many hopes of being slayed with a great show that includes lots of overwhelming choreographies and a fantastic sound production, but all I got was 2 hours of Namie Amuro making a forced facial expression that didn't change the ENTIRE SHOW. Those uninspired dance moves weren't cutting it either. Even the performance of my favorite song of hers, WILD, left me disappointed.
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This coming from someone who stans for Meisa Kuroki and Crystal Kay
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Originally posted by Chunk
Subjective. I, for one, think she's really overrated as a dancer. She's definitely better than most of females in J-pop, but I wouldn't call her a professional either. I watched her latest tour with so many hopes of being slayed with a great show that includes lots of overwhelming choreographies and a fantastic sound production, but all I got was 2 hours of Namie Amuro making a forced facial expression that didn't change the ENTIRE SHOW. Those uninspired dance moves weren't cutting it either. Even the performance of my favorite song of hers, WILD, left me disappointed.
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Do you personally find Meisa more talented in performing, singing, etc as well as better music? Not being rude just curious.
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Originally posted by SO.UNCOOL™
Oh lawdddd. I don't even know why I even bother with Chunk.
No disrespect to both Kumi & Ayu but they have been on a decline for several years now, a divorce and pregnancy is no excuse.
& if you honestly think Ayu & Kumi are gonna triple Namie's 'Uncontrolled' album (which is closing in on 500k) with thier next efforts your are clearly delusional
& yes Utada & Ayu snatched Namie's wig in the 90s but Namie came right back ten years later which speaks volumes and is an incredible feat tbh. Namie is 20 years into her career and is going as strong as ever. |
If not those things, what is? What is? 
Don't take everything so literally. 
I'm not saying she's not selling amazing these years. I'm just clarifying that she has in no way a bigger chance of getting another Million album than Utada. 
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This article from "The Prophet Blog" always cracks me up. 
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Queen Namie Amuro‘s new album Uncontrolled is obliterating bitches left, right, and center.
Uncontrolled shifted a big fat 292,000 copies this week, giving Namie her 10th No.1 album on the Oricon chart and the best first-week sales for a female soloist in Japan this year.
Can your faves? The answer is no, they can’t. Ayumi Hamasaki‘s Party Queen flopped with 97k back in March, Koda Kumi‘s JAPONESQUE wasn’t far behind with 94k in January, and somebody on Twitter told me that Crystal Kay‘s Vivid debuted at No. 35 with 3k sold this week.
To put this into perspective, Namie Amuro sold more than all three of them combined, and then some.
Congratulations to Namie, the baddest bitch in Japan right now. I love Uncontrolled (minus the so-so English songs), and Namie’s really slayed me with her last few single releases, so I’m happy to see her annihilating her fellow J-Divas.
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Oh and just to put things in retrospect for you Chunk:
2008:
Namie Amuro - BEST FICTION (1,540,088)
Utada Hikaru - HEART STATION (1,011,373)
Ayumi Hamasaki - A COMPLETE ~ALL SINGLES~ (854,132)
Koda Kumi - Kingdom (611,679)
2009:
Namie Amuro - PAST<FUTURE (575,501)
Koda Kumi - TRICK (391,094)
Ayumi Hamasaki - NEXT LEVEL (379,989)
2011:
Namie Amuro - Checkmate! (484,336)
Ayumi Hamasaki - FIVE (213,495)
Koda Kumi - Dejavu (211,033)
2012:
Namie Amuro - Uncontrolled (492,847)
Koda Kumi - JAPONESQUE (151,343)
Ayumi Hamasaki - Party Queen (148,290)
I mean it's pretty obvious who's been owning for the last couple years...
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Originally posted by Chunk
Meisa is a stunning beauty, amazing actress and the perfect pop star. She's not the best singer, but her music and the accompanying PV's along with her performances are mostly top notch.
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& you have the gall to sit here and say Namie is overrated.
I can't 
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Originally posted by Britneyfan09
Do you personally find Meisa more talented in performing, singing, etc as well as better music? Not being rude just curious.
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Don't ****ing kidding me. No, Meisa is a talentless bitch, who can't sing and dance, but graced with decent acting skills, at least for a japanese actress. However, Meisa is also one of the most beautiful woman in the business and her music is all kinds of awesome. Catchy, highly accesible and full of guilty pleasures. 
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Originally posted by SummerTime
This article from "The Prophet Blog" always cracks me up.
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The best part:
and somebody on Twitter told me that Crystal Kay‘s Vivid debuted at No. 35 with 3k sold this week.
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Let's have a debate. Hew is the better performer. Crystal or Namie?
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Originally posted by SO.UNCOOL™
This coming from someone who stans for Meisa Kuroki and Crystal Kay |
From an artistic standpoint, Crystal Kay is lightyears ahead of Ms. Amuro.
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Originally posted by Britneyfan09
Let's have a debate. Hew is the better performer. Crystal or Namie?
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The one that actually sings the songs how they're supposed to be and not like someone would sing them in a karaoke bar.
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