I'm really excited for Red Velvet because they will serve something fresh among all these comebacks and cute concepts, I hope the teasers are going to be soon
Really hope we get teasers next week
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omg let me revisit this masterpiece
It's really one tbh. I can finally acknowledge that
adkslfl the accuracy I will never forgive them for Party. Honestly if it wasn't for the good tracks on Lion Heart & Taeyeon's solo debut I probably would have unstanned last year.
Article: BTS, "We apologize for making you feel uncomfortable with misogyny controversy"
Source: MBN via Daum
1. [+913, -147] Your character is reflected in the words that you choose to write, whether that be lyrics or even internet comments.
2. [+583, -161] Sigh, both their agency and the group should reflect deep into their bones about this
3. [+531, -177] Who are these guys?
4. [+394, -98] I read the lyrics and wow, really pisses me off
5. [+394, -102] They had to be insane writing that... I thought they were an up and coming boy group but this is forever farewell to you guys. There's nothing "hip hop" about putting down an entire gender like that....
6. [+372, -97] Wow... how could they write lyrics like that...? Gives me goosebumps
7. [+346, -96] The misogyny in our society is crossing so many lines... wake up everyone
8. [+304, -105] It's over for an idol group once you lose your girl fans
9. [+210, -70] Aren't the majority of their fans girls? I guess their fans don't even have any pride... still listening to songs with lyrics like that.
10. [+162, -71] I went back to read the apology in detail and it's just a bunch of excuses
11. [+122, -49] I will never understand misogynistic people. Their own mother is a woman ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
12. [+111, -50] They were so happy over getting popular recently too, but this is what happens when you screw up, it only takes a moment for it all to crumble. Popularity is like a sand castle. Their lyrics were really bad though.
13. [+53, -25] Lyrics like this are a tough issue... it's on a thin line between being right or wrong and the person writing it needs to be extra careful. I remember some other kid rapping about women spreading their legs like they're at the gynecologist... Why would you ever write something like that?
14. [+24, -1] Big Hit's apology is basically understanding that the lyrics had room for a misogynistic interpretation, not fully admitting that they were.
15. [+43, -26] I'm a BTS fan myself and when I listen to Rap Mon's mixtape, there are a lot of parts where I realize that he screwed up. A few dumb Armys will try to defend him no matter what but I don't think that's right.
"Here is the tweet from Suga — from May 16, 2013 — and the lyrics that were brought into question:
The Tweet, under fire for its aggression:
Suga says, “I’m watching you all. If I catch you looking elsewhere, I’ll shoot you with my camera. ^^ With the corner. ^^ On the crown of your head ^^”
(Note: The tweet uses a play on the Korean word jjikda, a verb which can mean “take a picture” as well as “hit a point with an object; stick; hack (with an axe).”)
Lyrics from the song “Joke” by Rap Monster, under fire for the implied sexual prejudice from the use of “gonorrhea”:
“Yea, you’re the best woman, being bossy. You do so f**king well, being bossy. But now that I think about it, you were never the boss. Instead of boss I’ll say gonorrhea.”
(Note: This is also wordplay, as the words for “being bossy” and “gonorrhea” are only different by one syllable.)
Lyrics from “Converse High,” under fire for objectification:
“I like you. But don’t ever wear Converse lows.”
Lyrics from “War of Hormones,” under fire for objectification:
“A woman is the best present.”
“Yea, you’re the best woman, being bossy. You do so f**king well, being bossy. But now that I think about it, you were never the boss. Instead of boss I’ll say gonorrhea"
The BTS thing are old tweet/lyrics brought up by an anti.
The first 3 of the accusations are reaches but War of Hormone's lyrics are indeed odd and trashy (though, the example the person brought up from the lyrics was pretty tame).
Weird how Boy In Luv and Danger weren't brought up either. It would help their point more, no?
Big Hit's apology:
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On July 6, BigHit Entertainment posted on their official fan cafe:
“We recognized the controversy about misogynistic lyrics in BTS’s songs at the end of 2015. After reviewing the lyrics, we found that some of them could be perceived as misogynistic, regardless of the intentions of the creator, and could make some people uncomfortable.
“We also confirmed that some tweets posted by BTS prior to their debut could be offensive to women.
“The agency as well as all of BTS feel very apologetic towards all the fans who have may have felt uncomfortable from any lyrics or social network posts, and we will take the criticisms and the points in questions into consideration for future works.
“Through self review and discussion, we’ve learned that we can’t be free of societal prejudices and mistakes, as they are a part of each individual’s growth and experiences, things that are seen and learned in society.
“We’ve also learned that defining a woman’s position or value in society from a man’s point of view could be wrong.
“We feel heavily responsible for not being more careful with the production of BTS contents, and causing everyone so much worry. Please continue to watch BTS grow, and if you would continue to point out our shortcomings, we will continue to work hard, always listening to the words of our fans and society.”
Basically what happened was some feminist~ "fans" made this Twitter account calling out BTS for some of their lyrics. Eventually the Twitter started gaining some traction & the owners even got interviewed by some blog which then started getting attention from the media thus making BigHit issue an apology.
I honestly feel like these people were
just frustrated with misogyny in music & society in general & kind of unfairly took their frustrations out on BTS.
I don't want to tell people what they should or shouldn't be offended by but when you actually look at the lyrics they were under fire for, they're pretty tame compared to some other songs
i used to collect all of them too dmkdmkgmkgkm
It would help their point more, no?