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Chart Listings: iTunes Discussion Thread (August 2011 - July 2013)
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11. Fly / I Believe I Can Fly
13. What Doesn't Kill You (Stronger)
14. Cough Syrup
17. Here's To Us
28. Glad You Came
61. Stand
11 and 13 should be in the top 10, go Glee
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Omg I forgot how amazing Hot Tottie was
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Why did you all remind me of Hot Tottie? I'm still so mad at his label for wasting that jam. I'm pretty sure it's at least Gold, and radio seemed to be into it. But his label didn't want to cooperate.
More, the best of his dance songs, didn't get any promo either aside from that cheap concert video, and it still sold something like 1.5M. So many smashes wasted, a mess.
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What happened to 'Hot Tottie' exactly?
I know it barely had single treatment.
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Hot Tottie was a buzz single that got no video. He didn't bother with it. Shame, it destroys DGUFIL.
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Originally posted by Nicole
Omg I forgot how amazing Hot Tottie was
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And it was doing well on the charts but they nvr did anything with it
Usher better come strong this era...he should do another U Got It Bad or Burn
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Originally posted by castrobabytiger
And it was doing well on the charts but they nvr did anything with it
Usher better come strong this era...he should do another U Got It Bad or Burn
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Those song smashed in the right time but nobody (the general public) is here for R&B music anymore and not sure if it's ever making a strong comeback anytime soon...
He should do a couple of pop songs for Top 40 and release his R&B-leaned tunes to R&B/Hip-Hop stations.
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Originally posted by MusicTalker
Hot Tottie was a buzz single that got no video. He didn't bother with it. Shame, it destroys DGUFIL.
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It's best song on Versus by far. Everything about it was messy cause I remember it was supposed to feature Ciara but Ester Dean made the final version.
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About alternative #1s, I agree, it's strange of Billboard to say Makes Me Wonder is a rock song. It's definitely very much a pop song to me. I guess just because they're a band and play guitar people just look at that and think "rock", but it's really not a rock song lol. It was so catchy though.
I would say How You Remind Me was the last rock #1 too. I think the main reason rock fans don't call it rock is because they don't want Nickelback to represent their genre. They don't want the general public to think since it's the biggest rock song in the world, that it's also the best. They did the same with Kings of Leon aswell when they blew up in 2008. I don't think they should worry though, it's the same with all the other genres, it's rarely the best songs to represent the genre that get massive. There's other factors with the Hot 100, like crossover appeal to other genres, etc.
About Usher, probably the ONLY good thing about him doing europop was at least that he did it relatively early on. Dance was already blowing up in 2007/2008, but at least he started doing it then, and it wasn't like those RnB singers that suddenly started doing electropop in 2011.
Not only Hot Tottie, but it also pissed me off so much how Lil Freak didn't get big like it could've/should've done. It's so frustrating these artists that have lots of great urban songs, but they only ever promote the eurodance ones. And then they get everyone's hope up that they're going to release an RnB song as a single, and then they either don't promote it, or it turns out to be a dual release, or they don't even bother sending it to Pop/Top 40 radio, or they change their minds and cancel it, or they don't bother making a music video. Something ALWAYS goes wrong. I swear. It's so depressing. It's like a lot of "RnB" singers don't actually want to release urban songs. And when they release a dance song their record label are suddenly willing to spend millions promoting it.
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Originally posted by Beatz
Those song smashed in the right time but NOBODY (the general public) is here for R&B music...
He should do a couple of pop songs for Top 40 and release his R&B-leaned tunes to R&B/Hip-Hop stations. I don't want him to flop.
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Usher is R&B royalty, he's never going to have a true flop. But he'll likely do the usual, a mix of pop (OMG, DJGUFIL) and urban (TGMB, Daddy's Home).
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Originally posted by Benzene
Usher is R&B royalty, he's never going to have a true flop. But he'll likely do the usual, a mix of pop (OMG, DJGUFIL) and urban (TGMB, Daddy's Home).
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I'll enjoy if he did both genres in the same song
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Originally posted by castrobabytiger
I'll enjoy if he did both genres in the same song
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It's pretty difficult to do, although OMG did have some characteristics of RnB in it (e.g the breakdown towards the end).
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But "Hot Tottie" is not that different than "Down on Me" in sound, and DOM did just fine commercially. HT should have been promoted as a CHR single.
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Originally posted by Benzene
Usher is R&B royalty, he's never going to have a true flop. But he'll likely do the usual, a mix of pop (OMG, DJGUFIL) and urban (TGMB, Daddy's Home).
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That should be right.
To those people saying Usher is a bandwagoner, cut that bullcrap, "Love In This Club" which is very dancey-pop smashed hard before the electro-pop trend blew up in the US.
Also I'd still support him if he does electro-pop I mean artists have to go with the times, Beyoncé is an exception tho.
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Originally posted by Beatz
That should be right.
To those people saying Usher is a bandwagoner, cut that bullcrap, "Love In This Club" which is very dancey-pop smashed hard before the trend blew up.
Also I'd support him if he does electro-pop I mean artists have to go with the times, Beyoncé is an exception tho.
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"Love in this Club" was not dance-pop, and it wasn't "dancey-pop" either. It was a club song that Usher has always done. It was still an urban song that appealed to the masses for that time period. I doubt it would be a big hit today.
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Originally posted by Beatz
That should be right.
To those people saying Usher is a bandwagoner, cut that bullcrap, "Love In This Club" which is very dancey-pop smashed hard before the trend blew up.
Also I'd support him if he does electro-pop I mean artists have to go with the times, Beyoncé is an exception tho.
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Yeah, that's what I was saying in my post aswell. Love in This Club, was quite "early" in terms of the dance craze, to be fair to Usher. It only really started taking off in 2006, and peaked probably in 2009 with I Gotta Feeling and Sexy Chick. I think it's starting to die off now, looking at the recent success of hip hop and indie songs.
Beyonce has done electropop before though. There's that song called Radio on I Am...Sash Fierce. But I have so much respect for her that she didn't have loads of dance songs on 4.
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Originally posted by Cap10Planet
"Love in this Club" was not dance-pop, and it wasn't "dancey-pop" either. It was a club song that Usher has always done. It was still an urban song that appealed to the masses for that time period. I doubt it would be a big hit today.
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Love in this Club is most definitely dance-pop.
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Originally posted by Cap10Planet
"Love in this Club" was not dance-pop, and it wasn't "dancey-pop" either. It was a club song that Usher has always done. It was still an urban song that appealed to the masses for that time period. I doubt it would be a big hit today.
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I think "Love In This Club" would be a big hit today. It has synth/electro-pop elements to it, of course it has an urban sound too but it's more dance-poppy IMO.
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Originally posted by Tsuko
Love in this Club is most definitely dance-pop.
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Ok.
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Ok.
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To be fair, I did used to hear it on urban radio sometimes. But I think it was largely because it's Usher. If someone like Nelly Furtado or Fergie had released the song they probably wouldn't have played it much, but Usher was so popular with urban radio listeners, that he could get away with doing "not very urban" songs and still getting played.
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