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News: Shootings/explosion in Paris
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Originally posted by Bad Kid.
Muslims are pointed out because this act was done in the name of an extreme, warped view of Islam.
Refugee's are now being pointed out because 2 of the bombers posed as Syrian refugee's to get into Europe to carry out this attack.
How is it hard to comprehend why both of those are pointed out?
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The liberal media is too afraid of offending Muslims so they can't accurately report what's going on anymore.
Like, people are going to connect the dots regardless of them anyway.
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Member Since: 8/31/2013
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Originally posted by UAE
Read and educated yourself a bit
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But aren't there also bits of the Qur'an that calls for death to apostates? You quoted the good parts, great but why ignore the problematic bits too? It's the same things Christians do with the Bible.
You cherrypick and ignore the problematic parts as if they don't exist and these extremists pluck their motivation from thin air, when the Holy Book itself has bits that are flawed.
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Originally posted by UAE
Read and educated yourself a bit
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I just read through that BS you posted and nearly choked
Christians in heaven according to islam? Really? Who are you trying to fool darling?
Here is what the Quran says in Surah 3:85
" And whoever desires other than Islam as religion - never will it be accepted from him, and he, in the Hereafter, will be among the losers."
I can post more if you want but I don't want to write esays here.
Islam is against offensive warfare? OMG
Then there must certainly be mistranslations in surah 47:35, 9:5 , 9:29 , 9:73 , 9:123 etc
47:35 "Be not weary and faint-hearted, crying for peace, when ye should be uppermost: for Allah is with you, and will never put you in loss for your (good) deeds."
9:29 Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book (Jews and Christians), until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued.
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ISIS are radicals and don't represent Islam. They have burned down Mosques and killed fellow Muslims before. It's not right to judge all Muslims because of their actions.
#MuslimsAreNotTerrorists.
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Member Since: 9/1/2013
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Originally posted by IBeMe
the problem with this video sis is that once again she is associating the religion with the ppl. like she is making a general assumption that islam promotes this behavior when it actuality is extremism that promotes this stuff (extremism is found in every religion or political party as she mentioned...)
there needs to be a separation between extremism and common islam..the one that 99.7% of 1.6 billion the muslims practice.
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What makes these kinds of act extremism in the first place?
Not all muslims carry bombs in their purses or belts. And they don't participate in Jihdad or any kind of war. And most definitely, not all Muslims support ISIS
The problem isn't with Muslims themselves, rather their belief. I was a Muslim before, I studied Islam. I know a lot about it, and I grew up among Muslims. What Islam teaches people is truly dark. Yes, it has its pros. Islam teaches Muslims to be ethically and morally good. Good mainly toward other Muslims. And be good to infidels to spread Islam. But there are certain acts that are completely inhumane and wrong. Like death penalties and fighting to spread Islam by force. There are many wrong things with this belief.
While ordinary Muslims cherry pick only the good parts of Islam, extremists highlight the worst parts of it. ISIS follows the same book as all Muslims. It's just a way of thinking.
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Originally posted by Gedamara
I could ask you the same
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This Hadith refers to the special power of eloquence bestowed upon our Prophet. Prophet Mohammad has been granted eloquence and the highest grasp of language by Allah such that in His Short Statements, great oceans of knowledge, truth and wisdom are encompassed. It means that the eloquence is such that complicated and deep issues are explained succinctly.
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Originally posted by Khal
But aren't there also bits of the Qur'an that calls for death to apostates?
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No there aren't. You can find the orders to kill apostates in the hadeeth, not in the Quran.
RIP to the victims again
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Member Since: 2/6/2014
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Originally posted by Bad Kid.
Muslims are pointed out because this act was done in the name of an extreme, warped view of Islam.
Refugee's are now being pointed out because 2 of the bombers posed as Syrian refugee's to get into Europe to carry out this attack.
How is it hard to comprehend why both of those are pointed out?
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So by your logic we should blame christianity for the war in iraq and how Bush said at the time ' God told me to end the tyranny in Iraq' ?
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Member Since: 8/4/2012
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Originally posted by UAE
This Hadith refers to the special power of eloquence bestowed upon our Prophet. Prophet Mohammad has been granted eloquence and the highest grasp of language by Allah such that in His Short Statements, great oceans of knowledge, truth and wisdom are encompassed. It means that the eloquence is such that complicated and deep issues are explained succinctly.
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What has eloquence to do with the sentence " I have been made victorious with terror" ? Which part of that sentence is hard to understand?
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Originally posted by J a y
Um, actually you've addressed me 3 times over the past 11 hours - all of which you've misinterpreted my posts.
Not one of my posts have been warned, nor has anyone else but you and an idiot that shall remain unnamed, been hostile.
It's not my fault that you have a severe misunderstanding and want to label me as SJW - whatever that **** actually means.
Islam is the religion of Muslim people, as it is the religious beliefs of the Islamic State also, however different.
In the hours I've spent in this thread, not once have I misconstrued the two groups.
Using just the word "Islam" refers to both of those groups. Your posts had such text, which why I replied.
Don't write checks your ass can't cash.
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You've misinterpreted my posts too, you know.
I highlighted the part that your self-righteous brain didn't thoroughly understand. Islam =/=. I'm not blaming Muslims, I'm blaming their religion.
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Originally posted by LetsParty
So by your logic we should blame christianity for the war in iraq and how Bush said at the time 'God told me to end the tyranny in Iraq' ?
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ISIS literally posted a statement quoting the Quran and praising Allah and you wanna say religious extremism isn't to blame for this attack. 140+ people are dead, survivors are going to be traumatised and some may lose limbs from their injuries, and you're trying to deny the obvious that this wasn't done in the name of religion. You're all too afraid to say what it is, religious extremism, in case you offend some people.. people are dead, accept the driving force behind these attacks, religion.
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Originally posted by Gedamara
What has eloquence to do with the sentence "I have been made victorious with terror" ? Which part of that sentence is hard to understand?
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He refers to the Quran not him as a person. You can find many Muslim scholars explaining it in detail
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Originally posted by Bad Kid.
ISIS literally posted a statement quoting the Quran and praising Allah and you wanna say religious extremism isn't to blame for this attack. 140+ people are dead, survivors are going to be traumatised and some may lose limbs from their injuries, and you're trying to deny the obvious that this wasn't done in the name of religion.
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Do you think the assholes cared who they killed? Muslim or not? They couldnt have cared less if they killed a muslim or anyone else. To say it was done in the name of religion is stupid, these are fanatics.
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How many times do people have to explain these assholes use religion as a cover, it is stupid to blame god for what they are doing
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Member Since: 12/13/2010
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Originally posted by Gedamara
What has eloquence to do with the sentence "I have been made victorious with terror" ? Which part of that sentence is hard to understand?
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The passage explained in detail if you ever have time to read
http://comparativreligion.blogspot.a...ictorious.html
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The meaning is thus obvious that when the enemies' attempts to detroy the Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) failed, they began to fear him as he grew in strength in Arabia and gained more followers. They feared and hated the religion he brought which preached equality and morality and would remove them from their position of corrupt tyrants who enslaved the poor and the non-arabs. It was fear of the mysterious power which granted Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) and his followers such rapid success. This fear was not the fear that resulted from past combat, as many Islam-haters would have us believe, rather it was a type of fear which prevented further combat.
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Member Since: 8/13/2012
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Originally posted by The Unforgiving
What makes these kinds of act extremism in the first place?
Not all muslims carry bombs in their purses or belts. And they don't participate in Jihdad or any kind of war. And most definitely, not all Muslims support ISIS
The problem isn't with Muslims themselves, rather their belief. I was a Muslim before, I studied Islam. I know a lot about it, and I grew up among Muslims. What Islam teaches people is truly dark. Yes, it has its pros. Islam teaches Muslims to be ethically and morally good. Good mainly toward other Muslims. And be good to infidels to spread Islam. But there are certain acts that are completely inhumane and wrong. Like death penalties and fighting to spread Islam by force. There are many wrong things with this belief.
While ordinary Muslims cherry pick only the good parts of Islam, extremists highlight the worst parts of it. ISIS follows the same book as all Muslims. It's just a way of thinking.
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truth tea...
all the religious books are highly messy and contradict themselves... they were likely written by different people and tinkered so as a whole they do not make any sense. So it comes down to interpretation... these books can be interpreted as something and its complete opposite
I don't understand why would you follow to the letter a book that was written thousands of years ago? it's just against any science and logic, how can people live following these things instead of reason? I just cannot
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Originally posted by LetsParty
Do you think the assholes cared who they killed? Muslim or not? They couldnt have cared less if they killed a muslim or anyone else. To say it was done in the name of religion is stupid, these are fanatics.
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RELIGIOUS fanatical's. These people don't see Western muslims who have jobs for the government, as police, those who go to concerts or socialise in bars as real muslims, of course they don't care if they kill them, they see them the same as they see "non believers." ISIS literally quote the Quran and praise Allah in their statement of responsibility, even though they believe in a warped view of Islam, even though they are religious extremists, its still done in the name of religion.
Ali A. Rizvi @aliamjadrizvi
Full ISIS statement of responsibility for #Paris mentions "pagans," "crusaders," & quotes Quran, verses 59:2 & 63:8:
https://twitter.com/aliamjadrizvi/st...02037275451393
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for example, on tv there was a christian show where they were trying to explain the sodoma and gomorra parts of the bible and they ended up basically saying something totally opposite of what the actual story says if read normally... these people have to create a whole philosophy to make sense of things that do not make any sense, it would be hilarious if it wasn't tragic
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