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News: Shootings/explosion in Paris
Member Since: 9/1/2013
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Originally posted by Alpha
not talking about members here, but i see more and more people online using this situation to get negativity on the whole refugee crisis. its clear now that we need to cooperate with the camps in middle east to get this to a more oranized movement.
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I was literally called Adolf when I said only those should enter who appreciate our culture.
Mind you this is what is expected from new citizens of the United Kingdom too. They need to sware,they will protected and cherish the values of the UK. So just at those idiots who called me that evil man!
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Member Since: 12/21/2010
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Originally posted by Zoraluv
!!!! All of this. Plus they'll kill Muslims and have done so many times. They truly do not care, they need to go.
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Exactly.
They're a threat to every RATIONAL person in this world.
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Member Since: 12/7/2011
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This is what ISIS wants. They want the whole world to hate on the Muslim community, they want us to their against the innocent Muslims, so that they will have more and more, in the millions to brainwash and lure into believing what they want them to believe, and it's how they recruit.
They want to create that divide, the world against the muslim community because they want more naive people on their side, so their army filled of hatred and bigotry will become stronger.
Remember, ISIS kills everyone, not just non-muslim people, but Muslim who condemn their actions, and kill them in honour of the image of an Allah they have created fabricated, and manipulated.
I hope people realizes this.
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Member Since: 12/21/2010
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Originally posted by J a y
Loves it.
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Queen Rania is one of the best people in the world. LOVE LOVE LOVE her.
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Member Since: 12/21/2010
Posts: 51,088
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"Abdi Osman 1 day ago
Are the Saudi government not Muslim either? Because they are very similar to ISIS in terms of the barbaric/oppressive treatment of anybody that defies them."
An interesting point in the comments though. Some of these governments really are barbaric but we won't stand up to them because we rely on them economically.
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ATRL Contributor
Member Since: 9/14/2010
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Queen Rania says we should refrain from saying it's the West vs ISIS (that's what they want), but what else can we do?
They will continue to strike us no matter what, so what are the alternatives? It's going to be war no matter what.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
Posts: 9,929
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Originally posted by BoyOnBoy Wonder
"Abdi Osman 1 day ago
Are the Saudi government not Muslim either? Because they are very similar to ISIS in terms of the barbaric/oppressive treatment of anybody that defies them."
An interesting point in the comments though. Some of these governments really are barbaric but we won't stand up to them because we rely on them economically.
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There is something wrong with the religious texts and swords on their national flag, especially considering Saudi Arabia is such an influential country
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Member Since: 12/21/2010
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Originally posted by J a y
Queen Rania says we should refrain from saying it's the West vs ISIS (that's what they want), but what else can we do?
They will continue to strike us no matter what, so what are the alternatives? It's going to be war no matter what.
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In certain times, war is a necessity.
This is one of those times.
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Member Since: 2/6/2014
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Originally posted by BoyOnBoy Wonder
"Abdi Osman 1 day ago
Are the Saudi government not Muslim either? Because they are very similar to ISIS in terms of the barbaric/oppressive treatment of anybody that defies them."
An interesting point in the comments though. Some of these governments really are barbaric but we won't stand up to them because we rely on them economically.
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I can assure you that the majorirty of muslims hate saudi just as much as anyone else. Calling saudi a muslim country is a joke, they are extremists wahhabis who are despised by almost all
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What should we rename them? How with this effectively erase the history of the cult?
1993, 2001, 2005, 2013, 2015.. and that's just the most well known attacks.
It would do us greater good to rename them so not to cause confusion between ISIS and Muslims anymore.
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Originally posted by BoyOnBoy Wonder
In certain times, war is a necessity.
This is one of those times.
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Hopefully we're actually taking military action this time. We've heard too often that "we're going to war".
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Member Since: 8/27/2012
Posts: 3,597
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Originally posted by ABEL-o-matic
This is what ISIS wants. They want the whole world to hate on the Muslim community, they want us to their against the innocent Muslims, so that they will have more and more, in the millions to brainwash and lure into believing what they want them to believe, and it's how they recruit.
They want to create that divide, the world against the muslim community because they want more naive people on their side, so their army filled of hatred and bigotry will become stronger.
Remember, ISIS kills everyone, not just non-muslim people, but Muslim who condemn their actions, and kill them in honour of the image of an Allah they have created fabricated, and manipulated.
I hope people realizes this.
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This!
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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People are shot on the streets and y'all are looking for a more politically correct name for ISIS. This is exactly why the West is so hopeless
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Member Since: 12/21/2010
Posts: 51,088
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Originally posted by LetsParty
I can assure you that the majorirty of muslims hate saudi just as much as anyone else. Calling saudi a muslim country is a joke, they are extremists wahhabis who are despised by almost all
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While yes, I do agree that many muslims do loathe SA, I would hardly say it's a majority of them.
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Member Since: 12/21/2010
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Originally posted by Nialler
People are shot on the streets and y'all are looking for a more politically correct name for ISIS. This is exactly why the West is so hopeless
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I prefer Islamic State over ISIS and ISL as ISIS/ISIL limits their scope to just one small geographic area.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
Posts: 10,242
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Originally posted by J a y
What should we rename them? How with this effectively erase the history of the cult?
1993, 2001, 2005, 2013, 2015.. and that's just the most well known attacks.
It would do us greater good to rename them so not to cause confusion between ISIS and Muslims anymore.
Hopefully we're actually taking military action this time. We've heard too often that "we're going to war".
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We could treat ISIS as a name that's not an acronym...
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Member Since: 2/6/2014
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Originally posted by BoyOnBoy Wonder
While yes, I do agree that many muslims do loathe SA, I would hardly say it's a majority of them.
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Saudi is ruled by the House of Saud, they only care about money, ask any muslims you know and i can assure you all of them will tell you they are against that kingdom
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Member Since: 9/14/2010
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Originally posted by Nialler
People are shot on the streets and y'all are looking for a more politically correct name for ISIS. This is exactly why the West is so hopeless
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Politically correct? Did you miss the last two pages? Definitely not understanding the current topic at hand.
I was referring to ISIS using their name as means to spread their propaganda as if they're of some importance.
Every time we say ISIS or Islamic State, we're associating them with Islam - something they are clearly not.
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Member Since: 8/3/2012
Posts: 4,549
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Originally posted by ABEL-o-matic
This is what ISIS wants. They want the whole world to hate on the Muslim community, they want us to their against the innocent Muslims, so that they will have more and more, in the millions to brainwash and lure into believing what they want them to believe, and it's how they recruit.
They want to create that divide, the world against the muslim community because they want more naive people on their side, so their army filled of hatred and bigotry will become stronger.
Remember, ISIS kills everyone, not just non-muslim people, but Muslim who condemn their actions, and kill them in honour of the image of an Allah they have created fabricated, and manipulated.
I hope people realizes this.
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This
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Member Since: 12/21/2010
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Ideally, they'd be called the Caliphate State, but what can we do... Once a name is picked, it's going to stick.
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Member Since: 3/6/2014
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This is bad.
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