[fridayteenage]

Originally posted by Arioso

So Taylor is tied for having the most top ten hits since her first, and she's #2 since her debut. Slay!

Since I don't view that as a viable measure, here’s the # of solo songs which have entered the T10 since Billboard started using Soundscan in mid-1991, from the most notable artists:
Taylor 17
Mariah 16
Madonna 14
Rihanna 13

[Deemy]

Originally posted by fridayteenage

Since I don't view that as a viable measure, here’s the # of solo songs which have entered the T10 since Billboard started using Soundscan in mid-1991, from the most notable artists:
Taylor 17
Mariah 16
Madonna 14
Rihanna 13

Rihanna has 26 top 10s and only 4 of which she is the featured artist. She's not a group or wasn't part of any group prior so your "solo" argument is trash.

[fridayteenage]

You seem like a very angry person, but I'll just say that I don't consider 45Seconds and the like a solo song on account of how Kanye and Paul's contributions and names are attached and add to the value/perceived quality/fanbase of the song.

She's a LEAD on it, yes, but she's not the only artist listed for it, thus it's not solo.

[shelven]

Originally posted by fridayteenage

You seem like a very angry person, but I'll just say that I don't consider 45Seconds and the like a solo song on account of how Kanye and Paul's contributions and names are attached and add to the value/perceived quality/fanbase of the song.

She's a LEAD on it, yes, but she's not the only artist listed for it, thus it's not solo.

Oh come on, now. If you really are trying to look at a "viable measure" of success (and not just one that allows Taylor to be on top), then this argument is ridiculous. The fact is that 45S would be in the Top 10 even if Kanye and Paul weren't on it, and that applies to all of her lead but non-solo songs. Therefore those songs should count towards her success.

If you're going to be extremely biased towards Taylor, at least TRY to be subtle about it

[fridayteenage]

They do count to her success. I didn't say they don't. You can view something in another way without attacking me, even if that's the m.o. of people here. Being called ridiculous and trash because of my opinion is pretty flamebaity.

I only said her vocal collaborations by DEFINITION are not solo songs. At least TRY to be subtle about purposefully twisting my meaning.

[shelven]

Originally posted by fridayteenage

They do count to her success. I didn't say they don't. You can view something in another way without attacking me, even if that's the m.o. of people here.

I only said her vocal collaborations by DEFINITION are not solo songs. At least TRY to be subtle about purposefully twisting my meaning.

You're missing my point, though. Just like you said that you didn't think a certain ranking was a viable measure of success, I was explaining why I thought your ranking wasn't a viable measure of success either. The difference is that while you didn't appear to give any reason as to why you thought the previous measure wasn't viable, I was explaining why I thought yours wasn't.

Also, if you really do believe people should view something in a different way without attacking others, I don't know why you resorted to mocking me in order to prove that.

[Green]

Originally posted by fridayteenage

Since I don't view that as a viable measure, here’s the # of solo songs which have entered the T10 since Billboard started using Soundscan in mid-1991, from the most notable artists:
Taylor 17
Mariah 16
Madonna 14
Rihanna 13

How many of those top 10 hits stayed in the top 10 for more than just 1 week?

[Gabe²]

No Time of Our Lives in the Top 10?

[fridayteenage]

Originally posted by shelven

You're missing my point, though. Just like you said that you didn't think a certain ranking was a viable measure of success, I was explaining why I thought your ranking wasn't a viable measure of success either. The difference is that while you didn't appear to give any reason as to why you thought the previous measure wasn't viable, I was explaining why I thought yours wasn't.

Also, if you really do believe people should view something in a different way without attacking others, I don't know why you resorted to mocking me in order to prove that.

Yes you are able to have your opinion and I accept that it is different from mine. That you insulted me multiple times while doing it is what I took issue with.

That's not attacking/mocking. I was showing my annoyance with your abrasive tone by showing you what it felt like. But the latter part was not an attack from either of our parts as it did not involve insults.
If I repeated "oh come on," "ridiculous," or "extremely biased" in my comment then you might have a fair point here. But calling you un-subtle as you did me is not an insult, merely underlying how abrasive you came off.

[Deemy]

Originally posted by fridayteenage

You seem like a very angry person, but I'll just say that I don't consider 45Seconds and the like a solo song on account of how Kanye and Paul's contributions and names are attached and add to the value/perceived quality/fanbase of the song.

She's a LEAD on it, yes, but she's not the only artist listed for it, thus it's not solo.

I am not an angry person you're just notoriously biased and bigoted with your opinions. I didn't call you trash, I said your logic for that list is trash. Just because Taylor doesn't collaborate much doesn't make the other artists who do seem less significant. Beyonce has 5 #1 singles, so going by your theory she would only have 2. Wow... so Taylor has more #1s than her.

I'll take Billboard over your "opinion".

[fridayteenage]

No...a #1 is clearly a #1. My "theory," as you call it, is only that a solo song does not involve multiple credited artists. Because solo = 1, and multiple = more than 1.
If you say "Beyonce has 5 #1s," I would agree. If you say "Beyonce has 5 lead #1s," I would agree.

Now if you said "Beyonce has 5 solo #1s," then I would correct you. I'm sorry if you think this makes me a BIGOT.

[shelven]

Originally posted by fridayteenage

Yes you are able to have your opinion and I accept that it is different from mine. That you insulted me multiple times while doing it is what I took issue with.

That's not attacking/mocking. I was showing my annoyance with your abrasive tone by showing you what it felt like. But the latter part was not an attack from either of our parts as it did not involve insults.
If I repeated "oh come on," "ridiculous," or "extremely biased" in my comment then you might have a fair point here. But calling you un-subtle as you did me is not an insult, merely underlying how abrasive you came off.

So why is it that me saying "ridiculous" or "biased" is considered an insult or a personal attack, but you saying things like "you seem like a really angry person" or accusing me of "purposefully twisting your meaning" (which I later showed was not my intention) are perfectly fine? I'm fine with you thinking my wording was meant as an attack (which it wasn't, but you probably won't believe me), but it's annoying when you cherrypick what should be considered an insult/attack and what shouldn't be.

And I'm sorry, but when you copy my exact wording, capitalization and emoji to use back at me, it's mockery, regardless of what you think it's accomplishing or proving.

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OT: Really happy Uptown Funk has become Bruno's longest reigning #1 considering it's probably my favourite #1 by him. Although I'm really hoping LMLYD takes the #1 in the next few weeks, that song is pop perfection

[Gabe²]

This essays

[Deemy]

Originally posted by fridayteenage

No...a #1 is clearly a #1. My "theory," as you call it, is only that a solo song does not involve multiple credited artists. Because solo = 1, and multiple = more than 1.
If you say "Beyonce has 5 #1s," I would agree. If you say "Beyonce has 5 lead #1s," I would agree.

Now if you said "Beyonce has 5 solo #1s," then I would correct you. I'm sorry if you think this makes me a BIGOT.

Beyoncé has 5 #1s as a solo artist. 9 as a member of Destiny's Child. Do you see the difference? Rihanna isn't part of a group and she and her collaborators are separate entities. Changing the wording or chart stats to make Taylor seem more superior is very bigoted. You do this almost every week in this thread which is in fact annoying and whenever someone corrects you, they are "angry".

[fridayteenage]

Originally posted by shelven

So why is it that me saying "ridiculous" or "biased" is considered an insult or a personal attack, but you saying things like "you seem like a really angry person" or accusing me of "purposefully twisting your meaning" (which I later showed was not my intention) are perfectly fine? I'm fine with you thinking my wording was meant as an attack (which it wasn't, but you probably won't believe me), but it's annoying when you cherrypick what should be considered an insult/attack and what shouldn't be.

Calling me trash is something I usually consider to be an action of someone who is angry. I have not been called trash by someone who meant it in a positive way. Have you?

"Twisting my meaning" is...a way of saying that you claimed something about what I said that I did not. That's not...an insult.

[umich]

fridayteenage ha power



Did Paul Grein stop reporting sales and such?

[Deemy]

I am yet to see where someone called you trash.

[fridayteenage]

I wonder how high I Bet My Life will get. They seem to do well at super slow climbs up to hit status.

[CarterTax]

Originally posted by fridayteenage

Since I don't view that as a viable measure, here’s the # of solo songs which have entered the T10 since Billboard started using Soundscan in mid-1991, from the most notable artists:
Taylor 17
Mariah 16
Madonna 14
Rihanna 13

Impressive

Not 26 top 10s impressive, but impressive, nonetheless

[alexanderao]

LMLYD up to 6 and Style cracking the T10