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ATRL: Nicole's Farewell Letter?
Member Since: 3/10/2011
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I actually agree with him about the new album. I see so many people praising it as one of the greatest things ever but when I listened to it, I did not get the same feeling. Don't get me wrong, there are songs I love, love, love such as Marry the Night, Schiße, and Judas. But everything else is a meh. I don't hate it, but I'm not completely in love with it either. I couldn't figure out why, but I believe Nicole hit the nail on its head.
This new high and mighty attitude she has adapted as of the late played a key role into my reception of her album. I appreciate that she wants to evoke a deeper message into her music and switch up her sound, but it all just sounds so pompous. I could almost sense the pretentiousness emitting itself from her records. The other day I looked at her Eh, Eh video and her image now is like a complete 180. I guess you can call it "growth" but since the change is so great you cannot fault people for wanting The Fame Gaga back.
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Member Since: 6/29/2002
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Just get some good headphones and you will love this album.
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Member Since: 3/4/2011
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Its quite funny how people over think things so much on ARTL.
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Member Since: 3/4/2011
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Originally posted by Kworb
Just get some good headphones and you will love this album.
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its truly a grade A+ album, even haters from the deepest cracks of this planet like it
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Member Since: 6/10/2010
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Originally posted by Haus Of Judas
Its quite funny how people over think things so much on ARTL.
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Member Since: 7/22/2010
Posts: 16,134
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Originally posted by Bad Kid
You do make an excellent point, most of these songs do have the same meanings as thousands of other songs we've heard before. Gaga is just trying to top herself and make herself "different" so she makes songs like Scheiße, another feminism song, but she sings in different langauges and puts in nonsensical lyrics, which in the end justs make the song confusing and the public doesn't even understand what the song is about. I will agree with you on that.
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When she puts out "Born This Way," people scoff because the lyrics are too direct and she says what she means. When she puts out something like Scheiße, she's accused of being too pretentious. People need to get over it. She's diverse.
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Member Since: 8/15/2010
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Originally posted by Haus_of_Nicole
I never said Dr Luke & co. are bad. I've listed so many times all the songs they've done that I absolutely love, and I've mentioned that a lot of those songs are superior to Gaga's music, which was lots of fun but let's face it, never groundbreaking in the least.
My Dr Luke disses were aimed at people who said idiotic things like "omg Ke$ha keeps scoring those hits and people thought she was a 1-hit wonder!!!" or "wow Katy keeps scoring #1s, and people said she was over after OOTB, how does she do it?!?!" I replied to those people that of-****ing-course they're going to keep scoring #1s when they're working with the #1 producers in the industry who are experts at making fun, aggressively commercial songs tailor-made for the charts.
I called you out when you were stanning for Rihanna because you looked pathetic thrashing Gaga's looks, calling her names and desperately clinging to someone new (Rihanna) that you didn't truly care for, just because you needed someone to stan for.
When Celestial gave her legitimate reasons for being over Gaga, without bashing her, I didn't call her out.
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I did this as a joke.
The problem here is that you wish Gaga to create these songs that sound like everything else on the radio and I simply do not understand it. You comment that Dr.Luke's dogs pant around searching for scraps of production so they can get a #1 that is both recycled and boring. You, like many others on here, have become too fixated at staring at screens of numbers to judge how good something is. Just because something sells to the general public, who are a bunch of retards, doesn't mean it is good. The public want music that is full of gigantic hooks and repetition and this often is a bad thing. Look at the 20th century where the charts were dominated by artists of magnificant talent and those whom have gone down as influential; Bowie and Bruce both whom created music that was often experimental and different. I would rather Gaga went down in history as a Bowie rather then a Britney.
There we go again, fun and commercial; music should not be about catering to masses of people but it should be about experimenting and moving boundries within music and venturing out to discover and expand one's horizons. Music's closed circle of infectious, dull pop is what gives it mainstream music such a bad name and no one wants that and although Gaga often stumbles she is on her way to achieving a shift in musical taste.
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Member Since: 2/14/2007
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Goodbye Lullaby Nicole! (Avril's new album available worldwide)
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Member Since: 11/24/2009
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Anyway, I don't want to belabor the point and continue this any further and make it look like I'm "bashing" her, which a lot of people seem to think. Since a thread with 11,000+ views was opened, I needed to make myself clear.
I'll leave it at this: I'll take a fun, well-made but generic cookie-cutter romantic comedy like THE PROPOSAL any day over an ambitious but failed "meaningful" Oscar-bait movie that wants to change the world but falls flat and ends up a corny mess like PAY IT FORWARD. Ideally I'd prefer a great meaningful movie over the rom com, but if they can't deliver, I'll take the rom com instead.
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Member Since: 3/4/2011
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Originally posted by BadBitchRihanna.
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Everywhere
This thread is a good example.
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Member Since: 7/22/2010
Posts: 16,134
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Originally posted by Haus_of_Nicole
I never said Dr Luke & co. are bad. I've listed so many times all the songs they've done that I absolutely love, and I've mentioned that a lot of those songs are superior to Gaga's music, which was lots of fun but let's face it, never groundbreaking in the least.
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And now that she's trying something new in an attempt to be groundbreaking, you leave.
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Member Since: 8/15/2010
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Originally posted by ♥CEB♥
I actually agree with him about the new album.
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Member Since: 3/23/2011
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Originally posted by Twai
When she puts out "Born This Way," people scoff because the lyrics are too direct and she says what she means. When she puts out something like Scheiße, she's accused of being too pretentious. People need to get over it. She's diverse.
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True and I guess I love her for being deverse because I love Scheiße and Born This Way.
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Member Since: 9/25/2001
Posts: 26,816
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Originally posted by BTrisc0392
Rainbows, Biblio, Hustle, and Jay - You're never allowed to leave.
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I've been in and out of this place for almost 10 years now, doubt that's gonna happen.
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Originally posted by MrDeeds
Rainbows will get over her soon, but he is not going to admit it, or semi-shade her like Nicole just did . He is surrounded by monsters, he is living/lived the Gaga world.
He will quote this post one day tho, and say "Deeds was right, ugh"
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LOL, you're funny Deeds. She's my favorite artist ever and I've ever emotionally connected myself with someone as much as I have her. I've lived the "GaGa world" yes, but it doesn't mean I'm not going to always be honest about how I feel.
For example, "Hair" is disgusting Miley Cyrus/Dolly Parton trash.
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Originally posted by MusicTalker
Rainbows is arguably her most passionate fan on the site.
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You're lovely Thank you
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Originally posted by GaGaFan
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Don't get it twisted, he IS the best Gaga stan here, point blank.
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Wow, thank you. Means a lot coming from your way.
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Member Since: 7/14/2010
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Originally posted by Haus_of_Nicole
As mentioned above, I loved Gaga before I knew what the Hot 100 was.
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And you knew she'd be successful. So, that doesn't make a difference
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Member Since: 11/15/2009
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Originally posted by Rainbows
I've been in and out of this place for almost 10 years now, doubt that's gonna happen.
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Aren't you like, 20 years old or something?? Half of your life has had ATRL in it
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Member Since: 4/30/2009
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Lady Gaga changed for the worse. and it's a shame.
ever since fame monster she's been taking 5 steps back...
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Member Since: 11/24/2006
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Originally posted by Rainbows
LOL, you're funny Deeds. She's my favorite artist ever and I've ever emotionally connected myself with someone as much as I have her. I've lived the "GaGa world" yes, but it doesn't mean I'm not going to always be honest about how I feel.
For example, "Hair" is disgusting Miley Cyrus/Dolly Parton trash.
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You are going to break sooner than you think
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Originally posted by Angelo
Goodbye Lullaby Nicole! (Avril's new album available worldwide)
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Member Since: 10/30/2010
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Born This Way reminds me of My December. The fans rave over it like it's some groundbreaking artistic masterpiece when in reality it's just a hookless album with uninspired corny lyrics.
There are a few gems on Born This Way such as "Heavy Metal Lover", "Schibe", "Bloody Mary", and "Electric Chapel", but the rest is just messy. Fernando Garribay isn't a good producer, his sound is very one dimensional IMO.
Anyways, I'm sure there will be a re-release or an EP out by the end of the year with some pop anthems from RedOne or Darkchild or some other big name producer.
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ATRL Contributor
Member Since: 8/8/2006
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Bloody Mary>>>>>>>Gaga's career
Would I lie Nicole?
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