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Stats: $83,040,746 - ArtRave Boxscores & Receipts - Official Thread
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She's doing great!
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wow amazing numbers
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Gaga better get that money! This is impressive.
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Originally posted by Quietly Trek
It does, because we're talking about all pop stars as you said. I think it makes the most sense to then give an example using the biggest female touring artist.
I think it's important to look at both. Promoters won't sell more tickets in places where female pop artists won't sell as much — the US being such a place. Places like NYC, LA, and Chicago are probably the exceptions.
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They did say we were talking about all popstars and not just Gaga, so your example was perfect.
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Well, Atlanta was one her worst selling shows, so if she really did 11,495 I'm more than satisfied, even though I hope the gross is still over 1M no matter what.
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DON'T believe those UK Mix receipts.
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Originally posted by Dark_Lorde
No they didn't give away the tickets for free at all.
I'm sure gaga sold those 11k odd tickets.
It's just that this thread if filled with people that don't know how this all works. The Philips Arena has a capacity of 18k for concerts.
Gaga's stage and runways don't take up 7k worth of seats. The promoter simply sets the capacity of the amount of seats that were sold. - But look, this isn't any hate at all - It's not exclusive to gaga. Lots of artists do it - If you look up the receipts you'll see they all play to a different amount of people in the same Arenas
The promoter sets the attendance so it reads "sold out" so there's no point in salivating over those magic words. - Wait for the gross.
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But minutes before the show started there were not so many tickets available on Ticketmaster. There is no way Gaga failed to sell 7,000 tickets
Just by looking at the crowd - there are pics from EVERY possible angle - there is no way it wasnt sold out!
18k might be a regular capaticity for that arena but not for concerts!
You tried....once again.....and failed....once again!
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Originally posted by Quietly Trek
It does, because we're talking about all pop stars as you said. I think it makes the most sense to then give an example using the biggest female touring artist.
I think it's important to look at both. Promoters won't sell more tickets in places where female pop artists won't sell as much — the US being such a place. Places like NYC, LA, and Chicago are probably the exceptions.
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The good sis Quietly Talk always spilling the truth tea
Lemme stan for you sis
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Gaga's show in Atlanta was not sold out (it was the worst-selling show of the first part of the NA leg), but almost 12K is good. I guess the full capacity considering Gaga's stage would have been around 14K. Washington also wasn't, but that was because it was moved to an earlier date with less than a week of notice and a few thousands of people asked for refunds.
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Originally posted by HausOfA-M
Gaga's show in Atlanta was not sold out (it was the worst-selling show of the first part of the NA leg), but almost 12K is good. I guess the full capacity considering Gaga's stage would have been around 14K. Washington also wasn't, but that was because it was moved to an earlier date with less than a week of notice and a few thousands of people asked for refunds.
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Girl what?
Haven't you seen the OP/receipts?
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Originally posted by Thor
Girl what?
Haven't you seen the OP/receipts?
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This was the map just before sales closed. As you can see, the upper sections were far from being sold out (and there was also room to add some rear-view tickets, which happens when the first bunch of tickets sells well). I was just pointing it out since people were arguing over the arena's capacity. Shows often get reported as 100% as long as they sell a minimum amount of tickets, even if technically they aren't sold out (Rihanna played for 13.2K people, P!nk for 14.5K, JT for 13.3K on the same arena just last year).
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Originally posted by HausOfA-M
This was the map just before sales closed. As you can see, the upper sections were far from being sold out. I was just pointing it out since people were arguing over the arena's capacity. Shows often get reported as 100% as long as they sell a minimum amount of tickets, even if technically they aren't sold out (Rihanna played for 13.2K people, P!nk for 14.5K, JT for 13.3K on the same arena just last year).
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Have you seen Gaga's catwalk that's connected to the stage?
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Originally posted by Thor
Have you seen Gaga's catwalk that's connected to the stage?
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People can stand under them, I doubt they affect capacity that much with the main stage being so small. Especially since 80% of tickets sold for North American arena shows are seats. In fact, her capacity in Edmonton (an actual sold-out show) was on par with those of the other tours (Gaga: 13.9K, JT: 13.5K, Rihanna: 13.1K, P!nk: 14.6K, Taylor Swift: 13K).
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Originally posted by Dopeamine
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With no source...
and to the people above boxscores are often manipulated in the touring industry to say shows are 100% when they are not. Madonna, Gaga last tour, Rih etc have all done it - when you have a live nation deal or live nation global touring promoting your shows, they often just round down the attendance to 100% - however I'm definitely not saying that has happened here, but it isn't unheard of in a general sense.
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Queen Of Pop
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Originally posted by HausOfA-M
This was the map just before sales closed. As you can see, the upper sections were far from being sold out (and there was also room to add some rear-view tickets, which happens when the first bunch of tickets sells well). I was just pointing it out since people were arguing over the arena's capacity. Shows often get reported as 100% as long as they sell a minimum amount of tickets, even if technically they aren't sold out (Rihanna played for 13.2K people, P!nk for 14.5K, JT for 13.3K on the same arena just last year).
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Yea but that is NOT reliable. I've been following that on Ticketmaster for the first 10 shows, and there was always some kind of glitch. One minute they show 3 sections being suddenly sold out the next minute it's back to not being sold out. And that screenshot was taken 2 hours before the show.
A lot of people bought the tickets at the arena.
As you can see the arena was packed :
I am NOT saying the show was 100% sold out, but it was definitely close to being sold out. So I don't see a reason why you are so much bothered by this? If it wasn't being close to sold out I might understand, but this.....
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Originally posted by Fred Perry
Good for her. Her gimmicks still giving her a little bit of undeserved success
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Originally posted by OmegaRidley
The Katy shade in this thread
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Originally posted by Cupcake.
ikr
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Your fellow Fred Perry started it, if you can read you see it.
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Anyway, congrats to the queen
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Originally posted by 2014
Yea but that is NOT reliable. I've been following that on Ticketmaster for the first 10 shows, and there was always some kind of glitch. One minute they show 3 sections being suddenly sold out the next minute it's back to not being sold out. And that screenshot was taken 2 hours before the show.
A lot of people bought the tickets at the arena.
As you can see the arena was packed :
I am NOT saying the show was 100% sold out, but it was definitely close to being sold out. So I don't see a reason why you are so much bothered by this? If it wasn't being close to sold out I might understand, but this.....
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You can't even see the upper sections on those pictures
Why should I be bothered? I'm a Gaga fan I was just explaining why the capacity of the Atlanta show was lower since people were talking about it some posts before. Always so defensive
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Originally posted by HausOfA-M
You can't even see the upper sections on those pictures
Why should I be bothered? I'm a Gaga fan I was just explaining why the capacity of the Atlanta show was lower since people were talking about it some posts before. Always so defensive
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but why do you have to give the haters a reason to post more in this thread if you are a Gaga fan
You do realise Gaga is currently in her first flop era, and this tour is basically all she got right now. And you, a Gaga fan come here posting shady posts about "upper sections".
I could have also responded MANY times to other Monsters who claimed some other shows were sold out 100% when in fact there were like 97% or 95%. But I did NOT. You wanna know why? Because as I said, it's enough to read haters shading here all the time on ATRL !
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Originally posted by HausOfA-M
This was the map just before sales closed. As you can see, the upper sections were far from being sold out (and there was also room to add some rear-view tickets, which happens when the first bunch of tickets sells well). I was just pointing it out since people were arguing over the arena's capacity. Shows often get reported as 100% as long as they sell a minimum amount of tickets, even if technically they aren't sold out (Rihanna played for 13.2K people, P!nk for 14.5K, JT for 13.3K on the same arena just last year).
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Yes, you're right. It wasn't sold-out.
The seats available in the upper level have been deleted to sales some hours before the show. Maybe because they knew people wouldn't buy them, and maybe because they wanted the lower level to be completely full. It's easy to see it, entire blocks were not available after refreshing the map, so... Within seconds. Which is not possible because the seats weren't good and Gaga's shows didn't have "hype" this era, maybe because of the gap of promo.
The day of the show, me and some other members counted 1.6k tickets left. I wouldn't be surprised if less than 200 tickets were sold in last minute. Probably almost 13k tickets have been put on sale.
But, Atlanta was one of the worst selling shows. So, selling 11,495 tickets is incredible and I'm happy with it. It's great!
She sold almost the same in San Jose last year (11,465 tickets) and it was one of her best selling shows.
She's still a touring artist, even with a crappy era (anyhow, in promotion).
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