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News: Time: Dear White Gays: Stop Stealing Black Female Culture
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Originally posted by PoisonPill
It's sad to me how many people here are blissfully unaware of the privilege they live with. As white gay men of privilege, we are able to inhabit the bodies and dialects of low-income black women "for fun", then easily go back to being white men whenever we want. That's a privilege that isn't afforded to the people we are imitating.
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hmm.. actually kinda interesting to think about
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To claim that you’re a minority woman just for the sake of laughs, and to say that the things allowed her or the things enjoyed by her are done better by you isn’t cute or funny. First of all, it’s aggravating as hell. Second, it’s damaging and perpetuating of yet another set of aggressions against us.
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Best point in the article 
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You know what it is a lot of the culture is misappropriated and certain individuals do feel like they can relate to their others because of their struggle. I can understand why some may find it to be offensive especially being black and gay but its this reasoning and segregation between minorities in general that prevents all discriminated communities from coming together in order to address these issues. Even during the civil rights movement a lot of women's rights were left out of the picture and believe it or not everything has to be addressed at once for any real progress to occur.
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Is there a way I can contact Time Magazine concerning this article?
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Originally posted by maiko
This post is completely off base. Starting at "acting white" (whatever that is), comparing learning another language to adopting black american female mannerisms as "camp" and comical, and calling the writer a bitch.
I do hope you realize that the fact that you and many other Black Americans subconsciously believe that by speaking proper english and not having obvious stereotypical black american mannerisms means that you're "Acting White",
is a remnant of the problem at hand.
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I don't personally believe acting in any manner is acting "a race" other than your own. But black people are constantly held up by their own community that if they speak a certain way and dress a certain way, they are "acting white".
And don't tell me I don't know, I have been on the receiving end of the criticisms for YEARS.
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all hell gonna break loose.
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Originally posted by NaughtyDog
is this another pressed black fuming that his or her culture is being appropriated by the masses  |
When white gays steal from black female culture it's funny even expected. When black people are actually black, the gays get upset and start insulting black people for being black when they've been imitators. Here is a clue. People identify with people being themselves not putting on an act to be the entertainment. If gays want to be treated equal and all that jazz be gay and stop being the joke.
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Originally posted by Auraeolux
Stop marginalizing a worthwhile cause with those exaggerated ideals and patronizing moniker.
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Stop marginalizing gay people because some of them like to lip sync to hip hop and shake their ass?
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Member Since: 7/15/2012
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Originally posted by BGKC
Seems like Time is generalizing black women to be sassy/ghetto and dragging the gays as if they don't already struggle with identity crisis issues. They're actually just oppressing both black women and gays simultaneously in this article.
Shame on them.
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Pretty much what I thought of the actual article, it was trash. The topic as a whole is interesting, though.
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Originally posted by Blatboy
Stop marginalizing gay people because some of them like to lip sync to hip hop and shake their ass?
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You clearly didn't read the article very well if that's what you got out of it.
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Originally posted by Blatboy
Social Justice warriors: Stop associating being ghetto and ratchet and twerking with being black
Social Justice warriors: Stop stealing our culture. That's ours to not do and yours to stay away from. Segregation is key to equality!
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You know NOTHING and you don't understand.
You are basically implying "Why white people can't say the n-word? SEGREGATION!!!"
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Near the end of the article she mentions "strong black female" and "rachet girl", she isn't saying that's what all black women are, but those stereotypes and exaggerated mannerisms are the ones that people latch onto. The article is against those stereotypes and against black women being reduced to them. Look at the first post, listening to Beyonce makes that poster feel like a rachet girl.
I've seen Beyonce called ghetto, ratchet, a sassy black woman and an independent woman who doesn't need a man. That's a result of stereotyping and it being acceptable to say these things. Black women should be viewed as full human beings not these five traits is at the heart of this article. If people stopped with the "I'm a black woman because of x, y. and z", that'd be easier.
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Originally posted by Adonis
When white gays steal from black female culture it's funny even expected. When black people are actually black, the gays get upset and start insulting black people for being black when they've been imitators. Here is a clue. People identify with people being themselves not putting on an act to be the entertainment. If gays want to be treated equal and all that jazz be gay and stop being the joke.
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Way to generalize. Not all gays insult black people or are against them.
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I feel like some people stopped reading halfway into the article and missed some of its most salient points so I'll repost them here
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Claiming our identity for what’s sweet without ever having to taste its sour is not. Breathing fire behind ugly stereotypes that reduce black females to loud caricatures for you to emulate isn’t, either.
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All of this being said, you should not have to stop liking the things you like. This is not an attempt to try to suck the fun out of your life. Appreciating a culture and appropriating one are very, very different things, with a much thicker line than some people think
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Like, some of you seem to think the author is trying to say it's offensive for a white person to enjoy rap music or something. That is not what she's saying at all.
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Originally posted by keshaspearsxo
Pretty much what I thought of the actual article, it was trash. The topic as a whole is interesting, though.
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It's funny because the article is actually written by a black woman.
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So that suddenly makes it okay? 
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My "playing the victim" post was to do with the stealing culture bs that just doesn't happen. Twitter racism is a two way street though, the amount of "white people be like" "white people shoot up schools" "white people have no lips" "#TweetLikeAWhiteBoy" "cracker" posts I see daily
Of course I'm not naive enough to believe white racism is anything comparable to black racism in the real world, but often, in 2014, black people are their own worse enemy when it comes to equality.
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Originally posted by PoisonPill
It's sad to me how many people here are blissfully unaware of the privilege they hold. As white gay men, we are able to inhabit the bodies and dialects of low-income black women "for fun", without dealing with any of the social and institutional racism that comes along with it. We can then just go back to being white men whenever we choose. That's a privilege that isn't afforded to the people we are imitating.
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Member Since: 5/14/2011
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Originally posted by BGKC
Seems like Time is generalizing black women to be sassy/ghetto and dragging the gays as if they don't already struggle with identity crisis issues. They're actually just oppressing both black women and gays simultaneously in this article.
Shame on them.
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They're commenting on society's generalization of those two groups of people, which you must admit exist. Public perception, however wrong it may be, is powerful.
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Originally posted by konaa
Do you ever have anything relevant to add to discussions beyond your boring and pedestrian tumblr/sjw rhetoric?
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Is it ever any less relevant? All you people bitch about is privilege and oppression and who's more oppressed, blah blah blah. I'm sure this is doing OH SO MUCH to help the idea of equality.
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Originally posted by bey0nce
I've never understood why some black people are so defensive about "white people" taking "their culture". White people (as are black people) are allowed to twerk, enjoy hip-hop, talk however they want, dress however they want and express themselves however they want without "stealing black culture!!11"
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Unfortunately it's difficult for someone in the UK to truly understand Black American sentiments.
You guys don't really have the same problems with race like we do, so I think it's best for you to respect
that it's an issue for some, instead of panning it and making comments that make you appear ignorant.
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