It's not yet, but it will be once she's finished with the singles and the videos...Her best album to date imo and my personal favourite this year... I never knew I would stan for Bey like this!!
No, but only because it was scrapped short. The tour is always her best thing and she didn't get to do that this time around on account of her being a soon-to-be mama.
For the fans, it is iconic. It was the unexpected. For someone who is a general listener of Bey like myself, not at all. This era was so boring. I never listen to any of the songs, watch the music videos or even take any interest in it.
The ****ery is that the fact that you are into gimmicks doesn't mean everybody has to settle for it too.. Its all about preference.
I don't think it's preference.. I think it's delusion. Born This way is an iconic album and will always be remembered years from now. When you think of iconic, you think of everything Gaga did in 2010-211: The Egg,
The outfits
The gay rights advocacy: "if you don't like gays, go home.. speech"
Everything about Gaga is iconic. Because the WHOLE world talks about her. Born This Way debuted in 10000 countries. She is a legend at her own right.
That when you look back 50 years from now and you turn on MTV Flashback shows or something..this is the kinds of things they would show and talk about.
4 on the other hand, i have some views about it but I would just conclude to say that it's not iconic. at least. it maybe a beyonce classic as her stans would proclaim, but not many people even know that Beyonce have an album outside her fanbase, or the people who keep up with her. Beyonce may be a legend in the future, but she will be in the same league as Tina Turner.
Not Madonna, not Michael Jackson, not Elvis, not the Beatles, not the REAL legends. I mean I know Mariah is a legend too, she's the Queen of RnB, but I'm realistic.
Iconic is TIME defining, not just some songs or performances that willcaptivate you for the moment.
The MOONWALK in 1984's Apollos is TIME defining, THRILLER is TIME defining, MICHAEL JACKSON IS TIME DEFINING. But Beyonce's career isn't, she hasn't done a single thing that is time defining, or iconic, she is doing it for the number ones. She is not doing it for the music.
You can say Single Ladies is iconic because people make videos about it? Because people are inspired to make dance moves about it? Give me a break. I guess you people have never heard of Macarena.
This generation has nothing but HYPE. Everyone is the next so-so, what happened to being your own artist? What happened to INDIVIDUALISM? This generation say legend way too losely, they hype their idols way too much. This generation is seriously in bad shape.
I don't care if I get reported with this reply, it's worth it. I mean I'm not shading Beyonce, I'm just telling the truth.
I don't think it's preference.. I think it's delusion. Born This way is an iconic album and will always be remembered years from now. When you think of iconic, you think of everything Gaga did in 2010-211: The Egg,
The outfits
The gay rights advocacy: "if you don't like gays, go home.. speech"
Everything about Gaga is iconic. Because the WHOLE world talks about her. Born This Way debuted in 10000 countries. She is a legend at her own right.
That when you look back 50 years from now and you turn on MTV Flashback shows or something..this is the kinds of things they would show and talk about.
4 on the other hand, i have some views about it but I would just conclude to say that it's not iconic. at least. it maybe a classic as her stans would proclaim, but not many people even know that Beyonce have an album outside her fanbase, or the people who keep up with her. Beyonce is a legend of today, but down the road, she will be in the same league as Tina Turner.
Not Madonna, not Michael Jackson, not Elvis, not the Beatles, not the REAL legends. I mean I know Mariah is a legend too, she's the Queen of RnB, but I'm realistic.
Iconic is TIME defining, not just some songs or performances that will captivate you for the moment.
The MOONWALK in 1984's Apollos is TIME defining, THRILLER is TIME defining, MICHAEL JACKSON IS TIME DEFINING.But Beyonce's career isn't, she hasn't done a single thing that is time defining, or iconic, she is doing it for the number ones. She is not doing it for the music.
You can say Single Ladies is iconic because people make videos about it? Because people are inspired to make dance moves about it? Give me a break. I guess you people have never heard of the Macarena dance.
This generation has nothing but HYPE. Everyone is the next so-so, what happened to being your own artist? What happened to INDIVIDUALISM? This generation say legend way too losely, they hype their idols way too much. This generation is seriously in bad shape.
Now I understand one being pressed at times,fonting lies to defend their 'flawed' point.
But to sit and give pure delusion that Beyonce's career isn't iconic nor time defining is pure DUMB.
We might as well say alot of the gerls career isnt then,including Mariah.
From my knowledge,Beyonce holds more iconic moments.
You can font how much the girl has sold as you want,but Beyonce has been in far more iconic moments.
Now I understand one being pressed at times,fonting lies to defend their 'flawed' point.
But to sit and give pure delusion that Beyonce's career isn't iconic nor time defining is pure DUMB.
We might as well say alot of the gerls career isnt then,including Mariah.
From my knowledge,Beyonce holds more iconic moments.
You can font how much the girl has sold as you want,but Beyonce has been in far more iconic moments.
I understand that you're just trying to defend Beyonce. Look, Beyonce is talented. But she is just a hit maker. A machine. You don't see Beyonce getting mobbed outside. I mean people would know that she's Beyonce, but they won't run for their lives to get a glimpse of her.
Michael Jackson on the other hand has been cursed with his legacy. He couldn't shop for grocery FFS because people would run from a mile away just to see him.
And about Mariah, like I said, she's the Queen of RnB, but you're disregarding the point I made about her. I'm being realistic about my idol.
Sure Beyonce may have a few 'iconic' moments, but I can barely count them in my fingers, and I'm debating still whether they're iconic or just "of the moment kind of thing", just saying.
Lady Gaga on the other hand, TOOK the music industry by storm, and in 3 years she's already broke so many records, and has had SO many iconic moments. The meat dress for instance, hasn't some museum taken this dress and put it up for display? That dress is very iconic because the WHOLE world talked about it. The Egg is iconic because the WHOLE world talked about it.
Even Kanye's VMAs incident with Taylor is very iconic, as much as I hate to say it, because it caused a worldwide frenzy, and it lingered in people's mind even until today! That's the iconic I mean. Things, situations, or matters that LASTS.
I understand that you're just trying to defend . Look, Beyonce is talented. But she is just a hit maker. A machine. You don't see Beyonce getting mobbed outside. I mean people would know that she's Beyonce, but they won't run for their lives to get a glimpse of her.
Michael Jackson on the other hand has been cursed with his legacy. He couldn't shop for grocery FFS because people would run from a mile away just to see him.
And about Mariah, like I said, she's the Queen of RnB, but you're disregarding the point I made about her. I'm being realistic about my idol.
Sure Beyonce may have a few 'iconic' moments, but I can barely count them in my fingers, and I'm debating still whether they're iconic or just "of the moment kind of thing", just saying.
Lady Gaga on the other hand, TOOK the music industry by storm, and in 3 years she's already broke so many records, and has had SO many iconic moments. The meat dress for instance, hasn't some museum taken this dress and put it up for display? That dress is very iconic because the WHOLE world talked about it. The Egg is iconic because the WHOLE world talked about it.
What kind of delusional tea are you sipping?
This bitch has had people chasing her all the way to boats in water just to get a sniff of her air.
And are you seriously comparing a meat dress to all of this?
Lady Gaga had the whole world talking about her 'meat dress'...that's nice.
Beyonce had the whole world talking about her pregnancy,broke records,and she didn't have to wear raw meat,or give something to a museum to do it. That's iconic hun.
Gerl Please,that fact of you trying so hard & failing at that makes it hard for me to take you serious.
I understand that you're just trying to defend Beyonce. Look, Beyonce is talented. But she is just a hit maker. A machine. You don't see Beyonce getting mobbed outside. I mean people would know that she's Beyonce, but they won't run for their lives to get a glimpse of her.
Michael Jackson on the other hand has been cursed with his legacy. He couldn't shop for grocery FFS because people would run from a mile away just to see him.
And about Mariah, like I said, she's the Queen of RnB, but you're disregarding the point I made about her. I'm being realistic about my idol.
Sure Beyonce may have a few 'iconic' moments, but I can barely count them in my fingers, and I'm debating still whether they're iconic or just "of the moment kind of thing", just saying.
Lady Gaga on the other hand, TOOK the music industry by storm, and in 3 years she's already broke so many records, and has had SO many iconic moments. The meat dress for instance, hasn't some museum taken this dress and put it up for display? That dress is very iconic because the WHOLE world talked about it. The Egg is iconic because the WHOLE world talked about it.
In 10 years from now, Beyoncé will still be there, respected as an artist. because she has real talent. she is not a hit maker, not a label robot. She is not fake.
Sometimes you dont have to force the people to watch you with scandals, freaky dresses, selling your life and missery. Everything for attention.
With Beyoncé (and that's what makes her an icon) it's the talent and the ethic work the spark that catches people's attention.
It's hard to declare an era as iconic before it's even over yet. As of right now do I feel the era is iconic? No, and that's coming from a Bey stan. I certainly think it's had iconic moments (BBA, Glastonbury), and while the quality of the music is certainly her best to date but when comparing to previous Bey moments (Single Ladies video) it's not as iconic. But - an era can be amazing without being iconic. I think we are witnessing the transition of Bey from popstar to legend. And fellow Bey stans - don't come for me simply because I don't label everything she does as iconic. It appears that the term iconic is often misunderstood on ATRL.
This bitch has had people chasing her all the way to boats in water just to get a sniff of her air. And are you seriously comparing a meat dress to all of this?
Lady Gaga had the whole world talking about her 'meat dress'...that's nice. Beyonce had the whole world talking about her pregnancy,broke records,and she didn't have to wear raw meat,or give something to a museum to do it. That's iconic hun.
Gerl Please,that fact of you trying so hard & failing at that makes it hard for me to take you serious.
Yes, because the MEAT dress is Iconic. Ask everyone you know about the meat dress, and they will say Lady Gaga.
and to counter your video, here's a little something. And about Beyonce being pregnant, you ask people if she's pregnant, and they will say "oh she's pregnant..?" But back when Britney was pregnant, everyone KNEW about it, just because she's Britney. Britney may not be doing as well as Beyonce today on the 'charts' but SHE IS FAR MORE ICONIC.
Yes, because the MEAT dress is Iconic. Ask everyone you know about the meat dress, and they will say Lady Gaga.
and to counter your video, here's a little something. And about being pregnant, you ask people if she's pregnant, and they will say "oh she's pregnant..?" But back when Britney was pregnant, everyone KNEW about it, just because she's Britney. Britney may not be doing as well as Beyonce today on the 'charts' but SHE IS FAR MORE ICONIC.
France stans for almost everyone!
Look Hun.
You saying that just gives me all that right to go ahead and say.
Ask everyone about a leotard & hair hump = Beyonce
Blonde Haired Black singer = Beyonce
Uh Oh Uh Oh Uh Oh Oh No No = Beyonce
All The Single Ladies = Beyonce
A member from DC = Beyonce
(Not you trying to dis-value France. then giving me some random old video of Mariah)
Your clearly pressed. It's all over you..even your signature.
