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There's nothing wrong with working with a hit producer, especially since she enjoys working with Max and Greg. There's nothing wrong with making pop music either. But I feel her pop sound is the same and very dated. Who's listening to Blow Me, now?
When other artists cover her, they cover Just Like a Pill (Miguel, Tegan and Sara) because that's a classic.
I just saw an ad that celebrated Bohemian Rhapsody and I was thinking what is P!nk's signature, timeless song?
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Member Since: 2/6/2014
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Originally posted by dfantasy
There's nothing wrong with working with a hit producer, especially since she enjoys working with Max and Greg. There's nothing wrong with making pop music either. But I feel her pop sound is the same and very dated. Who's listening to Blow Me, now?
When other artists cover her, they cover Just Like a Pill (Miguel, Tegan and Sara) because that's a classic.
I just saw an ad that celebrated Bohemian Rhapsody and I was thinking what is P!nk's signature, timeless song?
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Time will tell, her timeless is Just Like A Pill, Get The Party Started, and I would love other singers cover Who Knew with their own depth.
Trouble is also >>>>
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Member Since: 6/24/2012
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the thing that bugs me is that for a few years now there is absolutely nothing about her musical productions that stood out and that they've become easily interchangeable with those of other artists. if it wasn't for her voice and some of her lyrics, anybody, really, anybody could have released it. people thought for days that JLF was a new taylor swift song, or that heartbreak down was a katy perry song, or other songs that sound like they're from kelly clarkson or avril lavigne... it's a little disheartening to see her being compared or mistaken for those artists when we all know: pink >>>>>> ... i have nothing against pop and i have seen max martin actually create something worthwhile that teases out pink's softer side of rock (i don't believe you), but they really need to do something that just shows pink's superiority among all these mediocre celebrities. she doesn't have to go completely left-field, but it would be nice to have a pink sound in this boring pop landscape these days that is only pink! it would be amazing if she became a trendsetter again rather than a trendfollower. she's got it in her. we all know it.
radio is eating out of her hand these days. why not try to bring some flavor to it? they'll play it anyway cause her name is attached to it. but i get that she's comfy these days and rather buys a demo that sounds like a [insert artist here] reject and writes quick relatable but vague lyrics over it than actually delve into creativity. it's just sad to see that it takes her so long to continue what she's built with m!ssundaztood creatively. i'm afraid she'll never continue, but then again, she was someone who got bored quickly with the same thing. maybe that fire inside her is still there and will ignite again (in 20-30 years). no matter how long it will take, i'll be there
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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^ ain't nobody got time for reading that
I mean... I loved TTAL it was an amazing, fun album. Was it her best? Hell nah. IND and M!SS >>>>> Was it her mellowest one? Yes. Why? Willow
Willow is the reason for that all. Beyoncé started to curse in her songs and become highly explicit after her daughter's birth but P!nk clearly isn't the case. It wouldn't be surprised if she let Willow make the tracklist for P7 We won't get another edgy music from P!nk untill Willow's like... 15
On the other hand... Does the "safe, Willow friendly" music has to sound like TTAL or Just Like Fire? Of course not. I don't even dream about her going back to Try This / I'm Not Dead sound but... TTAL is like a softer (although better) version of Funhouse. If she gives us a thrid album in row with the same sound I'll be highly pissed
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I think her signature songs for the GP are Get the Party Started, Just Like a Pill, Trouble, Who Knew, U+Ur Hand, So What, Sober, Perfect and Try. I hear them all pretty frequently on the radio or on the TV and I think that's what people link P!nk with
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Member Since: 8/10/2012
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Originally posted by dfantasy
There's nothing wrong with working with a hit producer, especially since she enjoys working with Max and Greg. There's nothing wrong with making pop music either. But I feel her pop sound is the same and very dated. Who's listening to Blow Me, now?
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Exactly. We all know she's a pop artist and we all know she won't go all indie like ever but there's difference between pop music and pop music and lately she's become really lazy with the productions and quality. She's loyal therefore she's also stucked musically, you'd need to find new people to have fresh ideas.
For example, Just Give Me A Reason was one of the biggest hits of 2013, produced by Jeff Bhasker (Photograph by Ed, Uptown Funk, Locked Out of Heaven, Girl On Fire, We Are Young, National Anthem by Lana, I Care by Beyonce) while Try was phenomenal because of Ben West & Busbee. So why not moving this direction? It seemed people preferred it more than Blow Me and these people can give her a little bit of change while being 100% pop.
She just seems she doesn't really care anymore.
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Member Since: 6/24/2012
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Originally posted by aaron511
^ ain't nobody got time for reading that
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oh, poor boy you're really missing out on some quality opinions. but some fans have become just as lazy as pink, so i'll let it slide.
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M!ss had such an impact on Adele and many others. I think when people talk about her more recent works, they only talk about the singles, not the full album.
I was very surprised to find out recently Who Knew was actually by Dr Luke! That just goes to show she can work with these hit producers, and magical things can happen. Like Greg and Beck's Dreams. For some reason they cannot make magic with her though. Linda Perry did.
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Originally posted by Grenn-O
oh, poor boy you're really missing out on some quality opinions. but some fans have become just as lazy as pink, so i'll let it slide.
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You did not
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Member Since: 6/24/2012
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Originally posted by aaron511
You did not
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Hate to be the pessimist, but I don't think we can expect anything groundbreaking from her anymore, a-la M!ss, Try This or IND.
Back then she was young and troubled. Now she's happy, rich, content with life. The best songs are about struggles. A happy artist can't be genuine about those struggles. All she has are First World Problems now: which wine to pick, or which cheesecake to make. You can't write a deep song when your only problems are those.
I think it's a famous phenomenon among rappers. Their first album is always the best, because at the time of writing those songs, they are poor, unhappy, struggling. But after their first album becomes a hit and they get rich, all they can do is write crappy songs about having money and girls. And the masses can no longer relate to that.
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Member Since: 5/15/2012
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Originally posted by fanoftalent
Hate to be the pessimist, but I don't think we can expect anything groundbreaking from her anymore, a-la M!ss, Try This or IND.
Back then she was young and troubled. Now she's happy, rich, content with life. The best songs are about struggles. A happy artist can't be genuine about those struggles. All she has are First World Problems now: which wine to pick, or which cheesecake to make. You can't write a deep song when your only problems are those.
I think it's a famous phenomenon among rappers. Their first album is always the best, because at the time of writing those songs, they are poor, unhappy, struggling. But after their first album becomes a hit and they get rich, all they can do is write crappy songs about having money and girls. And the masses can no longer relate to that.
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If other artists can continually get better, Beyonce being a great example, I don't see why P!nk can't.
It just has to be a conscious decision. A shift in mindset and priorities.
Expecting something groundbreaking from her would imply that she is trying to do something groundbreaking. She's clearly not. If she ever decides to take that route, we can expect great things.
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Originally posted by fanoftalent
Hate to be the pessimist, but I don't think we can expect anything groundbreaking from her anymore, a-la M!ss, Try This or IND.
Back then she was young and troubled. Now she's happy, rich, content with life. The best songs are about struggles. A happy artist can't be genuine about those struggles. All she has are First World Problems now: which wine to pick, or which cheesecake to make. You can't write a deep song when your only problems are those.
I think it's a famous phenomenon among rappers. Their first album is always the best, because at the time of writing those songs, they are poor, unhappy, struggling. But after their first album becomes a hit and they get rich, all they can do is write crappy songs about having money and girls. And the masses can no longer relate to that.
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Hahaha, which cheesecake to eat. Well, P!nk will have her solitude while thinking about the lyrics and she won't neglect her fans , she'll always comeback with that kind of heartbreaking song yet motivating and I love that from her.
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Member Since: 2/6/2014
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Originally posted by Underdogs
If other artists can continually get better, Beyonce being a great example, I don't see why P!nk can't.
It just has to be a conscious decision. A shift in mindset and priorities.
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Yup, life is all about change and she clearly can shift her paradigms about what she is going to write.
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Originally posted by Underdogs
If other artists can continually get better, Beyonce being a great example, I don't see why P!nk can't.
It just has to be a conscious decision. A shift in mindset and priorities.
Expecting something groundbreaking from her would imply that she is trying to do something groundbreaking. She's clearly not. If she ever decides to take that route, we can expect great things.
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For every 1 example that you'll give to prove the opposite, I can name 10 artists that prove my point. Look at Madonna, Kelly C, Xtina, Britney. Their stuff in the beginning of their careers was really good (up to 3rd-4th album or so), and then it goes downhill because they can't relate to normal people's problems anymore.
As far as Beyonce, she does have an excellent team that came up with this visual album concept. But beyond that, the last memorable hit that Beyonce had was way back in 2008.
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Member Since: 2/6/2014
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Originally posted by fanoftalent
For every 1 example that you'll give to prove the opposite, I can name 10 artists that prove my point. Look at Madonna, Kelly C, Xtina, Britney. Their stuff in the beginning of their careers was really good (up to 3rd-4th album or so), and then it goes downhill because they can't relate to normal people's problems anymore.
As far as Beyonce, she does have an excellent team that came up with this visual album concept. But beyond that, the last memorable hit that Beyonce had was way back in 2008.
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Kelly Clarkson is doing good with her material, it's just her single choice that didn't fit so well.
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Member Since: 2/6/2014
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P!nk will never disappoint her fans. She is good to keep her cards on the same line with what's out there.
Can't wait for the new album tbh. JLF isn't enough.
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Member Since: 9/1/2013
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I'm kinda over JLF now. I need White Rabbit now.
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Member Since: 6/24/2012
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Originally posted by P!nk Forever
I'm kinda over JLF now. I need White Rabbit now.
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i was kinda over it two days after its release. super forgettable. only listening to it these days whenever i watch the video tbh cause i really enjoy the video for it! love that chess scene and asylum pink
and agreed: white rabbit needs to be released! too bad it seems it won't be on the OST for the movie.
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Member Since: 7/22/2012
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Didn't they shot the video for the White rabbit?
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