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Originally posted by jose168
isn't it kind of sad that behind all the smoke and mirrors, BEYONCE era isn't all that successful at all
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That list is even worse, for example Beyoncé peaked @ #30 in Mexico and there it says that is #15. Check the source of that position and see it for yourselves. I don't even want to look to the other sources, maybe she did BJ's charting numbers, we will never know.
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Originally posted by Nicole
Rihanna is better but Katy is the #1 pop girl now
Being white helps
So does her US success -- the media will report BB, not UWC
And her press for defeating Gaga helps too
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This is all true. But Katy always ends up feeling unimportant. She's just the face of today's Dr. Luke/label-engineered, radio-slaying hit machine. She could be swapped out for anybody. Thoroughly anonymous and marketably inoffensive.
When Rihanna comes back, another LOUD era would be nice, but what I want is fully-fledged domination. I want another GGGB.
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Originally posted by M!X
The only reason why people still believe BEYONCE is this huge era is because the album is still selling and it's kinda fresh on people minds. After couple of years it will be seen as it is, a 4 million seller album with zero global hits and era that didn't even pass 10 million records WW (Unapologetic era in US only is like 12 mil).
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When are you guys going to learn that people outside of ATRL do not think about these things? 
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Originally posted by Jameson Teqkilla
Hence most.
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Pr!ncess our base was even nominated for a Hive award. 
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Beyoncé is an odd kind of celebrity. I grew up in a redneck-y suburb and she was practically non-existent. Even her "smash" debut solo era barely happened there. Same goes for Asian and Latino neighborhoods. But my neighborhood now is at least half black and/or gay so I ALWAYS hear DriL blasting from people's cars and she feels like a massive hyper-legend. It's weird.
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Originally posted by M!X
The only reason why people still believe BEYONCE is this huge era is because the album is still selling and it's kinda fresh on people minds. After couple of years it will be seen as it is, a 4 million seller album with zero global hits and era that didn't even pass 10 million records WW (Unapologetic era in US only is like 12 mil).
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No one outside this site cares about record sales and global hits, lol.
All the 'GP' knows is that Beyonce released a surprise album that sold like crazy.
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Member Since: 8/16/2011
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Originally posted by FatShady
Meh. Pink outlasted a lot of her peers also. You still need impact and influence to have a legacy.
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Neither of which Rihanna has. So looks like Bey, P!nk, and Rih won't have legacies.
Only Britney from our generation has a musical legacy. 
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Originally posted by Jameson Teqkilla
When are you guys going to learn that people outside of ATRL do not think about these things? |
Yes they don't, they care about songs, so they won't make a diffrence between Beyonce outselling Unapologetic by 500k because they will remember Diamonds and Stay, Beyonce era will have what? Drunk In Love and that's a strech.
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Poor 50 Shades of Flop.
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There's not a lot I can tell you about Gone Girl without ruining its dark surprises, but I can tell you that it's an ingenious and viperish thriller — and that no matter how smart you think you are, it's going to bite you. The novel concerns a missing wife named Amy and a husband named Nick who's either (best-case scenario) a fatuous phony or (worst) a full-on psychopath. And here's another thing I can tell you about the novel: It's going to make Gillian Flynn a star.
Flynn used to be a TV critic at this very magazine — I never worked with her — before dedicating herself full-time to writing sinister best-sellers that freak people out (see interview). Gone Girl is told from alternating points of view. Amy, via chatty journals she kept before her disappearance, narrates the arc of her relationship with Nick, which begins with lovestruck flirting in Manhattan and a giddy marriage in Brooklyn. Then Nick gets downsized from his job as a magazine writer and insists they decamp to his hometown in Missouri. Ostensibly he wants to help his beloved twin sister care for their terminally ill mother, but he spends more time tending to his terminally ill ego.
In his chapters of the novel, Nick relates the police investigation and media frenzy that unfold after he rushes home one day looking for Amy and instead finds her blood on the floor. Nick doesn't even pretend to be a sympathetic narrator. He lies. He whines. He does incredibly stupid stuff, given the circumstances. As he puts it in a rare moment of honesty, "I have a face you want to punch." This may sound like faint praise, but Flynn does something here that many "literary" novelists have failed at: She writes from the perspectives of two different people who actually sound like two different people.
The first half of Gone Girl is a nimble, caustic riff on our Nancy Grace culture and the way in which ''The butler did it'' has morphed into ''The husband did it.'' The second half is the real stunner, though. On page 219, Flynn pulls the rug out from under you — and, by the way, you didn't even realize you were standing on one. Now I really am going to shut up before I spoil what instantly shifts into a great, breathless read. Even as Gone Girl grows truly twisted and wild, it says smart things about how tenuous power relations are between men and women, and how often couples are at the mercy of forces beyond their control. As if that weren't enough, Flynn has created a genuinely creepy villain you don't see coming. People love to talk about the banality of evil. You're about to meet a maniac you could fall in love with.
Grade: A
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Bey still has awards shows later this year and she'll probably sweep everything considering the competition. Even without hits the era will sell some more and keep some gurls heads rolling...
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Originally posted by Ramos
That list is even worse, for example Beyoncé peaked @ #30 in Mexico and there it says that is #15. Check the source of that position and see it for yourselves. I don't even want to look to the other sources, maybe she did BJ's charting numbers, we will never know.
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No offense, but you're a Gaga stan. And ARTPOP is kind of the BIONIC of the '10s. 
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Originally posted by M!X
Yes they don't, they care about songs, so they won't make a diffrence between Beyonce outselling Unapologetic by 500k because they will remember Diamonds and Stay, Beyonce era will have what? Drunk In Love and that's a strech.
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That's impossible to say though. Being a huge hit at the time =/= becoming a classic people go back to later on. Tons of the staples on "throwback" stations were not massive hits when they were released.
And frankly, unless she quietly retires forever, Beyoncé will remain a huge name and a huge force. She's too widely known and respected, and she's not hellbent on making dumb decisions that destroy her career.
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Originally posted by Sunshine.
Neither of which Rihanna has. So looks like Bey, P!nk, and Rih won't have legacies.
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Rihanna is the most influential person in music and fashion right now.
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50 Shades of Try-Hards is gonna be so bad
Why bother adapting it if you tone it down as ****? 
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Member Since: 12/29/2011
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Originally posted by jose168
isn't it kind of sad that behind all the smoke and mirrors, BEYONCE era isn't all that successful at all
those are some poor positions! |
not one English speaking country in site
she really is local.
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Did I miss something? Why are the Beyhive trashing Shakira?
Doing this doesn't make "BEYONCÉ" look more impressive, kids.
...Vin
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You'd think you guys would figure out what was up when Bey's tour sales and career just kept coasting on after like 15 flop singles, but no 
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50 Shades of Try-Hards is gonna be so bad
Why bother adapting it if you tone it down as ****? |
The whole series of books is a piece **** in itself so like who cares
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