[slw84]

Originally posted by Javan

This is a boring discussion. The more interesting question is whether or not men should have to pay child support if they already said they want the pregnancy terminated.

Wow, that would be such an easy way to get them out of paying child support.
Mess.

[liberalmusiclover]

Originally posted by Nikolai.

Pro life duh. Life begins at conception and you getting pregnant is your fault, don't take it out on someone who has the potential to be a great

Do you support the death penalty?

[conseeded]

Choice

[MrDeeds]

Pro life (not murder)

[KareBear]

Originally posted by Damien M

Why is it so hard for you to accept the fact that there are people out there who hate the concept of abortion? (myself included)
Not everyone is out to "control women" and "strip them of their rights". A fetus has a brain and a heart at 10wks. This is not an inconvenience that you can just throw away bc you feel like it.

You do know 80+% of abortions occur before 10wks right? Any later is most likely due to special circumstances. Do you support an abortion before a brain and heart is formed?

Originally posted by Beautiful Liar

It's her body... Yes.. But she got pregnant because of my sperm and that sperm carries my cells, my DNA and my genes... Not one person has yet to answer where is the HARM if her life isn't gonna jeopardy for carrying my child that I wanna keep?

Do you feel that strongly about this almighty sperm that you waste every time you deposit into a sock? You waste your cells and DNA and genes then too
The harm is you controlling what she does with her body. You dont have the right nor should you be given that right. A woman's role is 1000x more important in reproduction and it actually includes her physical body so she gets the ONLY say in whether she carries to term. She doesn't even have to tell the guy she is pregnant if she doesnt want to

[slw84]

Originally posted by Minajesty

Pro-choice.

Also, if they're made illegal, that's not going to stop people from getting them, and in much more harmful and dangerous ways, too.

So that's yet another poor choice they'd make.

I'm not surprised at the overwhelming majority going for pro choice, though

[-brian]

Originally posted by Beautiful Liar

Yes, yes, yes! Finally someone who gets it as long as her life isn't in jeopardy give me my baby... That's all really... @ a man who wants to keep it and become a father being punish because she was irresponsible.. Only on ATRL

only on atrl?

you do know abortion is legal in most of the world, right?

[TurntUp]

Pro choice

[slw84]

Originally posted by Tylerbv

Pro-choice. A woman can become pregnant accidentally and it happens all the time.
Plus, forcing a woman who can't afford a child to keep it will ruin both the mother and the child's life. How is that fair?

She can put the baby up for adoption or she can understand that sex is a decision that can impact your life.

It's easy to find ways around accidental pregnancies.

[Chanel4]

Originally posted by Beautiful Liar

in China it's law but in the UK It's a court issue and they usually rule in favor of the father ONLY if her health is gonna be fine, that's FAIR, she may gain weight but o well

Just because it's law doesnt make it right. Also not u using china as an example...where over population is the MAIN issue.

[ABEL-o-matic]

Pro-life.

[Bey Admired]

I'm pro-choice, but that doesn't mean I'm anti-life. It's such a ****ing stupid name!

[Rascal]

Both

[lolzjustinwat]

Thank God the opinion of men, especially gay men, will never matter on this issue!

I'm pro-choice.

[Marvin]

People mentioning the adoption/foster care system

There are thousands of miserable children sitting in foster homes wishing they weren't there. Why do you want to put more children into a broken system?

[Javan]

Originally posted by Retro

Nope, that's not the issue and no she damn well is not!

Might not be an issue for you but for a lot of people it is. And it's hardly arbitrary.

[Javan]

Originally posted by slw84

Wow, that would be such an easy way to get them out of paying child support.
Mess.

But if the woman ultimately has the choice to abort?

[Guernica]

Originally posted by Marvin

People mentioning the adoption/foster care system

There are thousands of miserable children sitting in foster homes wishing they weren't there. Why do you want to put more children into a broken system?

like I said, they only care about the "life" when it's in the woman's womb. as soon as it is born they treat it with the same disregard that they did for the woman who carried it in the first place. they don't really think long term

[Beautiful Liar]

Look ya it may not seem moral to ya but it really is FAIR and I speak from experience my friend here has a 5 year old boy, him and his girlfriend at that time were "irresponsible" she than got pregnant she didn't wanted abortion but he didn't want abortion it became a ongoing issue for weeks, he found out he can take it to court so he did and he won she went thru various forms of testing and she gave birth and thru court order he had sole custody and she isn't bound to pay child support.. 5 years later he is a father to a beautiful 5 year old boy and the mother isn't in his life she hasn't been since she gave birth to him...she won and he won so the system is effective! Again ya won't understand because the US is far behind and ya haven't seen the process work but here stuff like this is common!

[Nameless]

the legality of the matter is just an obstacle so poor people can't do it, rich women will do it, safely, being legal or not, and poor women will do it in precarious ways and die