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Celeb News: Complex: Iggy Azalea Responds With Complete Nonsense
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Originally posted by Doc
A lot is wrong with Iggy's response, the the overarching nonsensical theme is that all she took from Azealia's interview was "gurl be jealous"
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Well, make her understand.
Azealia kept calling her "white bitch this, white bitch that"? Why would she care to hear the point Azealia is making if Azealia is constantly degrading her. I won't try to hear what you're saying if you're constantly talking down about me. Period. I'm a social justice warrior myself, but Azealia was being annoyingly unreasonable. She is NOT a revolutionary.
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Originally posted by Joaquin Ignacio
the only reason I think Azealia calling Iggy out doesn't make sense is because she's friends with Lil Debbie, who's literally the epitome of "culture appropriation"
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This
Or why hasn't she called out Brooke Candy, Kreayshawn, or even Snow Tha Product?
Just because Amethyst blew up, you shouldn't just aim at her, aim at all of non-black females
Especially the one swearing she's mixed just to get by the whole cultural appropriation thing
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Originally posted by Harry
lol move along. they'll be up in her ass when she becomes the first female rapper this decade to both get #1 hit and win grammys. well yes she's white but hip-hop is not exclusively for black and us GP can't help but support her when she does it better than the rest, colored or not.
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Originally posted by Ace Reject
Again. Eminem and Macklemore have gone on record acknowledging that a big part of the ease of their success has come down to the fact that they're white.
I think that's what anyone expects from any white rapper. Don't mitigate your hard work, but acknowledge that your success IN THE MAINSTREAM was aided by your skin color. Nobody's asking Angel Haze to infiltrate top 40.
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I agree, however, it is a bit provocative to put forth the blanket statement: "You're successful because of White Privilege". It's arguably as ignorant of a blanket statement as a college Republican saying, "You're successful because of Affirmative Action". You have to be mindful of these type of statements because it drives a wedge in between race relations. Statements like that need to be applied to very specific cases. But to suggest all successful white rappers, or all successful white people, are only successful because of White Privilege is a reckless type of statement.
Applying it to a specific case like Iggy Azalea, White Privilege clearly played a role, for reasons that have been stated throughout this thread and throughout many major publications. By contrast, for Eminem, being White in the Rap industry in the mid-to-late 90's, during a time when radio was predominately R&B and Hip Hop, with Pop only on the cusp of a Renaissance, may have been more of an obstacle for him, than an advantage. Many would argue Eminem had "more to prove" and had to rely on his skill to be respected in the hip hop community, which in turn supported his albums. Did White Privilege play a role? Perhaps, but in this specific case, not nearly as much as it did for Iggy Azalea and Macklemore in today's heavily Pop-infused climate.
Blacks don't just go out and by your records just because you sound like them. That's why Eminem's albums are still supported by the rap industry, meanwhile Iggy Azalea is barely doing better than "WARRIOR." It's a stark contrast that shows White Privilege made Iggy Azalea successful in the beginning of her career, meanwhile, hard work made Eminem successful in the beginning of his career.
That being said, I do feel a little sorry for Iggy Azalea, because she's in a lose/lose situation. Her very best option would have been to stay quiet on everything, not just now, but from the very beginning of her rap career. Iggy Azalea's Achilles' Heel is that she's not self-aware and not a very bright person. She really is a clueless white girl. I've said this before: There's nothing wrong with being stupid. Some people are just stupid. But the people that are smart enough to know that they're stupid, tend to stay quiet. And that's why I'm a fan of Beyoncé now more than ever, because she finally learned to stop talking. Iggy Azalea needs to do the same. Let all of the focus be on your music and you may come out alive, but as long as Iggy Azalea keeps talking, she will never win against Azealia Banks.
...Vin
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Originally posted by Click Clack
The fact that Iggy badged this tweet
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So problematic in every sense of the word.
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Originally posted by Kkamjong
Pretty sure the only reason people are saying that is because Azealia is being extremely petty. The way she mentions Iggy is just always immature and unwarranted. In the interview, she did come off as jealous when she said "Iggy doesn't make better music than any black female rapper." AS IF she has heard the music from every single black female rapper to ever exist
Had she said, "There are many known black female rappers who make better music than Iggy." that would have came off as more appropriate and less bitchy and biased against Iggy.
She did make valid points, but she also said some things that are simply illogical and unnecessary. Also, the reason everyone dismisses Azealia is because of her social media bullcrap. Don't expect people to take what you say about Iggy seriously when you're on twitter talking about "igloo australia"
Does someone saying "Igloo australia" seem like a serious person? Does it seem like someone one would take serious? Plus my god she says LordT like an ATRL stan which doesn't help her case at all.
If she wants her opinions to matter she needs to act like a level-headed CELEBRITY, not an ATRL stan who puts music out. That is why no one takes her opinions seriously, even when she has valid opinions and makes important statements.
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Originally posted by Sinister
she did favorite that tweet...you see???
Iggy don't get it at all
maybe it's because she grew up in Australia and it's not that big of a problem there...but damn she just doesn't get it
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Not that big of a problem? Do you know what they've done to their natives? I'd say the race issue is almost bigger in Australia. I think that might be the real reason she doesn't get it.
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I just want to go on record by saying that I don't dislike Iggy because she's white. I just happen to think her flow is trash and she looks like Doug Funnie in a wig.
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Originally posted by Vin
I agree, however, it is a bit provocative to put forth the blanket statement: "You're successful because of White Privilege". It's arguably as ignorant of a blanket statement as a college Republican saying, "You're successful because of Affirmative Action". You have to be mindful of these type of statements because it drives a wedge in between race relations. Statements like that need to be applied to very specific cases. But to suggest all successful white rappers, or all successful white people, are only successful because of White Privilege is a reckless type of statement.
Applying it to a specific case like Iggy Azalea, White Privilege clearly played a role, for reasons that have been stated throughout this thread and throughout many major publications. By contrast, for Eminem, being White in the Rap industry in the mid-to-late 90's, during a time when radio was predominately R&B and Hip Hop, with Pop only on the cusp of a Renaissance, may have been more of an obstacle for him, than an advantage. Many would argue Eminem had "more to prove" and had to rely on his skill to be respected in the hip hop community, which in turn supported his albums. Did White Privilege play a role? Perhaps, but in this specific case, not nearly as much as it did for Iggy Azalea and Macklemore in today's heavily Pop-infused climate.
Blacks don't just go out and by your records just because you sound like them. That's why Eminem's albums are still supported by the rap industry, meanwhile Iggy Azalea is barely doing better than "WARRIOR." It's a stark contrast that shows White Privilege made Iggy Azalea successful in the beginning of her career, meanwhile, hard work made Eminem successful in the beginning of his career.
That being said, I do feel a little sorry for Iggy Azalea, because she's in a lose/lose situation. Her very best option would have been to stay quiet on everything, not just now, but from the very beginning of her rap career. Iggy Azalea's Achilles' Heel is that she's not self-aware and not a very bright person. She really is a clueless white girl. I've said this before: There's nothing wrong with being stupid. Some people are just stupid. But the people that are smart enough to know that they're stupid, tend to stay quiet. And that's why I'm a fan of Beyoncé now more than ever, because she finally learned to stop talking. Iggy Azalea needs to do the same. Let all of the focus be on your music and you may come out alive, but as long as Iggy Azalea keeps talking, she will never win against Azealia Banks.
...Vin
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Complex is run by black RACISTS and HOMOPHOBICS. What did people expect here?
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Thank you Complex. This blonde bitch skull thicker than a damn igloo. This hoe doesn't deserve her fame, she isn't even smart enough to comprehend a simple race issue. She sickens me, and the people who support her "act" sicken me as well. No respect for black culture at all. Dumb bitch.
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Originally posted by lilrobomonster
Not that big of a problem? Do you know what they've done to their natives? I'd say the race issue is almost bigger in Australia. I think that might be the real reason she doesn't get it.
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She chooses not to get it. She's willfully blind.
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Originally posted by Cap10Planet
Well, make her understand.
Azealia kept calling her "white bitch this, white bitch that"? Why would she care to hear the point Iggy is making if Azealia is constantly degrading her. I won't try to hear what you're saying if you're constantly talking down about me. Period. I'm a social justice warrior myself, but Azealia was being annoyingly unreasonable. She is NOT a revolutionary.
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I mean as you can see from this thread and from all other race threads on ATRL, many people refuse to understand, regardless of how intelligently you come at them. These are the sorts of people that truly can only benefit from an in depth course, because they simply don't have the capacity to learn from these types of discussions. Judging from Azalea's response to this, her similar responses in the past, and her badges, she's just like the rest of the girls in here.
Azealia doesn't have the time, gyal gives no ****s about coddling the girl. Azealia is messy and rash, but her opinions are intelligent and thought-out at least and a reasonably smart individual should have been able to decipher that from her 49-minute long interview.
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Just because you don't prefer the delivery of someone's opinion doesn't it make any less valid. LOL!
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Originally posted by Cap10Planet
Well, make her understand.
Azealia kept calling her "white bitch this, white bitch that"? Why would she care to hear the point Iggy is making if Azealia is constantly degrading her. I won't try to hear what you're saying if you're constantly talking down about me. Period. I'm a social justice warrior myself, but Azealia was being annoyingly unreasonable. She is NOT a revolutionary.
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The point she made at 41:38 about Jay Z and the Duke & Duchess of Cambridge was gross. "I'm Jay Z, I'm that popping black ***** and y'all gonna bow down that's it". How vile. Nobody should be bowing down to anyone.
"I don't need no validation from white people. Y'all don't need to shake my hand"
OK but she's complaining about whites not acknowledging black artists...Azealia is trash. Racism is indeed a problem but the Banks route is not the way to go.
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Originally posted by Kkamjong
Pretty sure the only reason people are saying that is because Azealia is being extremely petty. The way she mentions Iggy is just always immature and unwarranted. In the interview, she did come off as jealous when she said "Iggy doesn't make better music than any black female rapper." AS IF she has heard the music from every single black female rapper to ever exist
Had she said, "There are many known black female rappers who make better music than Iggy." that would have came off as more appropriate and less bitchy and biased against Iggy.
She did make valid points, but she also said some things that are simply illogical and unnecessary. Also, the reason everyone dismisses Azealia is because of her social media bullcrap. Don't expect people to take what you say about Iggy seriously when you're on twitter talking about "igloo australia"
Does someone saying "Igloo australia" seem like a serious person? Does it seem like someone one would take serious? Plus my god she says LordT like an ATRL stan which doesn't help her case at all.
If she wants her opinions to matter she needs to act like a level-headed CELEBRITY, not an ATRL stan who puts music out. That is why no one takes her opinions seriously, even when she has valid opinions and makes important statements.
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Not a lie, even Ebro was trying to tell her about her feelings/attitude but she's ignorant
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Originally posted by Joaquin Ignacio
the only reason I think Azealia calling Iggy out doesn't make sense is because she's friends with Lil Debbie, who's literally the epitome of "culture appropriation"
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Just because you're white, doesn't mean it's culture appropriation. Eminem could never be called an appropriator because he was born into the culture and isn't putting on some "ratchet" accent in his music.
The only problem I've had with Lil Debbie was the "Ratchets" video. Other than that she's been pretty sound. She literally makes trailer park rap.
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But how mad would y'all be if some white people are quoted with saying Darius Rucker and Charley Pride should stop making country music and return their awards because there are white artists making better country music?
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