Discussion: Why does the USA have people pressed? - Page 13

Wafflecakes

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Originally posted by Grumpy Gills

You can't own the UN

Well the UN cannot exist without US support.

So while they may not technically own it........ it is much the same thing.

Callisto.

Its funny everyone always blames the US
but they always forget it all started with the British.

Grumpy Gills

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Originally posted by CoolestPerson12

The US provides the bulk of UN funding. They're on the security council. If the US makes an proposition that the US hates they can always just decrease or remove they're funding. How will the UN run now? The UN is nothing more than an American creation

We might hold more influence than lesser countries but the US does not own the UN they have sided against us in every call to arms we had in the last 20 years or so.

Gangsta4alife

Damn this thread is turning into a blood bath. Anyways I believe in my opinion that the reason the U.S. get's a terrible rep is due to a bunch of stereotypes that are perpetuated about us. I've seen it first hand when I have visited many other countries but I understand, just like as a child growing up here I have heard many harmful stereotypes of other nations. IMO every country has the good & bad nothing is perfect, you just have to find someplace in the world that benefits and makes you happy the most. And if America is or not that country for you no hard feelings on my part. But that's just how I see it.

Tropez

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Originally posted by Callisto.

Its funny everyone always blames the US
but they always forget it all started with the British.

I agree let's all blame the Brits.

Kamil24

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Originally posted by MyNameIsMiro

Age old question: What if she is raped? Then what?

I don't know then, that is a difficult situation and I don't think I have enough knowledge in this subject matter to give an answer lol

BlueTimberwolf

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Originally posted by venuss

Not you trying to say the US is/was generous. To answer that I'll tell us a short story that's is only a sneak peek of what the US can do.

Also what bothers other countries is that the US is ALWAYS trying to be world's policemen and taking advantage of that.

I agree, what happened in your story is horrible, and shouldn't have happened. However, that is few and far between in the modern era. I also noticed you didn't address what would happen if we stopped being the world's policeman.

Gangsta4alife

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Originally posted by MyNameIsMiro

This thread is better off closed, don't you think?

I swear people post threads like these just to stir **** for a laugh.

We should all learn to get along. We're the only species that creates imaginary crap to argue over.

I disagree I don't think the thread should be closed at all, people should voice their opinions even though some of it can be harmful. Plus this thread is refreshing we have too much of the same old insert _________ any artist and asking the same questions over & over in 20 different ways

Wafflecakes

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Originally posted by Kamil24

I don't know then, that is a difficult situation and I don't think I have enough knowledge in this subject matter to give an answer lol

You don't have enough knowledge about rape to decide that it is disgusting to force a woman to have the child of the man who assaulted her?

Nippy'sReceipts

The Security Council is the decision-making entity of the UN. They vote on peace resolutions and authorize military action. Only a few countries are in the council mainly the fat cats-the U.S. reigning among them of course so yes, in a way the U.S. does dominate the UN. I mean its headquartered in NY after all. People wonder why the UN isn't about peace. It's because our influence is too strong in it.

Citrus

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Originally posted by RomanNavy

People are voting for those politicans who practice conservatism. I think I'm well-informed just looking at the political situation considering the population democratically gave them power so I don't need to look further.. And what I see is just sad.

Conservatism is, fundamentally, a belief that government is for rare regulation as opposed to active involvement. Ted Cruz is an extremist. Bill O'Reilly is a (slightly less annoying) extremist, as is Sean Hannity, Sarah Palin, etc. All you see and hear are the loud, extraneous cases. You don't see or hear about the local/state representatives or even state governments that do well with conservatism. New Jersey is doing just fine, and Chris Christie is a conservative.

Again, I think your own political ideology is seeping into your argument a bit too much.

Grumpy Gills

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Originally posted by WaffleCakes

Well the UN cannot exist without US support.

So while they may not technically own it........ it is much the same thing.

Just because we mostly fund something doesn't mean we own it. The UN doesn't just do what america wants they've made that pretty clear. fact is the UN holds no real power every country is its own sovereignty and no other country is allowed to police it. It's by a mutual agreement that humans have rights that should be protected that the UN is allowed to intervene in any country at all, you think if America can do w/e the the **** it wants the rest of the world will still be all ok cool.

GreasyBruce

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_exceptionalism

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_imperialism

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vietnam_War

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iraq_War

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_...ntion_in_Chile

To name a few.

Kamil24

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Originally posted by WaffleCakes

You don't have enough knowledge about rape to decide that it is disgusting to force a woman to have the child of the man who assaulted her?

No one is forced though

I'm saying that it's a very difficult decision for a woman to make considering the child would always remind her of the rape, but then the child is still innocent here. Not ever having faced a situation like that, I do not have an opinion about what decision should be made. I know many countries that abortion is illegal in, have it legal for those who have been raped.

RomanNavy

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Originally posted by CoolestPerson12

The US provides the bulk of UN funding. They're on the security council. If the US makes an proposition that the US hates they can always just decrease or remove they're funding. How will the UN run now? The UN is nothing more than an American creation

Yes the US provide the bulk of UN, and sure they have more influence than the average country but saying the US 'runs' the UN is a bit too much.
The Security Council is the only authoritative UN organ and 5 countries have VETO. Looking at the history of blocked resolutions the US has the highest score yes. But that does not mean the other 4 don't have that power or actually listen to America. The Security Council doesn't get **** done because of US vs Russia/China. Nothing the US can do about them. And it has nothing to do with funding either, Russia/China will block US resolutions regardless

Stunnah

Christ, this thread is a Bionic-sized mess.

I don't think it was necessary, but for the record: US >>> Canada >>> UK. Britian is a mess, from its low HDI ranking and disgusting accents to the fact it's illegal to insult peope. The US slays, but Obama has inflicted serious damage on its reputation. He should never have been reelected. That revaltion about Chancellor Merkel's phone will take years and years to atone for.

Nippy'sReceipts

The U.S. prefers conflict because we profit from selling arms-yes even to terrorists. We armed Bin Laden/Al Qaeda in the 1980s, we armed Latin American drug cartel kingpins and dictators, and we arm African dictators and rebel militias. The only time we dislike conflict is if one of our friends is involved. Friends meaning Western Europe, Australia,& Israel.

venuss

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Originally posted by BlueTimberwolf

I agree, what happened in your story is horrible, and shouldn't have happened. However, that is few and far between in the modern era. I also noticed you didn't address what would happen if we stopped being the world's policeman.

Things like that happens every day and we don't notice it. Many US companies are more powerful than some countries' presidents. They can even choose what presidents these countries should have.
The situation in Africa, Asia and Latin America is just terrible.

I personally think that being the world's policeman is not wrong but the fact that they take advantage of that is not good.

Their power is not the problem, is the way they use it.

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Originally posted by Nippy'sReceipts

The U.S. prefers conflict because we profit from selling arms-yes even to terrorists. We armed Bin Laden/Al Qaeda in the 1980s, we arm Latin American drug cartel kingpins, and we arm African dictators and rebel militias. The only time we dislike conflict is if one of our friends is involved. Friends meaning Western Europe, Australia,& Israel.

All I have to say to that is that war is such a profitable business and everything is about business.

Grumpy Gills

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Originally posted by FattMatt

Really because my cousin got an abortion at like the sixth month and did an ass load of research on it and told me all about it. they will do it at any time in the pregnancy if the person asks

That's nice but i'm a psy major focusing on human sexuality so i've done my own research and written dozens of papers on sex, std's, pregnancies and abortions so I didn't just "hear it from my cousin"

Late term abortions are illegal in America.

jomarr

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Originally posted by CoolestPerson12

America is the only superpower for a reason. It doesn't have to be just solely on economics and politics. But the US has a massive lead on media and science right now. The US practically controls the UN. The US shaped this modern world to fit their needs. The only other country that is close right now is China. But they lack the media and science influence. They have an economic system that is based on the US economic system. And not to mention that their citizens are so poor that they can't even buy the American products they make. That's not a superpower.

And with this globalization America may just be the last until the world is equalized but that will be years from now. Maybe not in our lifetime.

I really wouldn't say "massive". We should all know that Russia, Japan and maybe Germany had large contributions to Science, Technology and Medicine respectively. I wouldn't be a hypocrite by saying the US isn't, they are but not by a large margin. They have such a large following/impact in the world that discoveries/research of other countries remain uncredited. The US is still the most influential country in the world but again, their control and power is slowly diminishing. Also, we should remember that China still remains a communist country which would really explain a lot in their current situation. Communist in name, capitalist in practice.

That's such a big thing to say. No, America is not the last. Definitely not especially now.