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Celeb News: Lady Gaga: "People think I'm finished"
Member Since: 4/9/2012
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Originally posted by JessicaVanessa
Isn't an artist sole JOB to promote the product. If she is nagging us to buy the song it's because she is promoting the product. Live performances are promotion of the product, so are you saying that anyone who live performs is desperate...sit.
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The artists I listen to NEVER spam my twitterfeed with requests. She's begging because obviously it didn't have the result she was hoping for. It's really obvious.
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Member Since: 1/22/2005
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This sounds an awful lot like what Xtina has been saying in most of her interviews for the past 3 years...
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Member Since: 8/1/2012
Posts: 8,763
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Originally posted by inspiration4
Everything she said was perfectly true.
With that said, she's clearly bothered by the way things are going.
The only thing that bothers me is that she seems to lumps all criticism into the same category, and perceives all of it as a being a desire to write her off. Rather than taking a minute to even consider that Applause shouldn't have been the first single, or that maybe people genuinely aren't feeling it, she instead masks that possibility with this narrative that it's due to society wanting to see her fail, when the reality is that this extreme sentiment is confined to a few forums on the internet. Regular people don't think about this at all, they just want good music, that's it.
The irony is that if she does fail, or under-perform, or whatever, it's solely due to her and her team being to dense to consider that maybe, just maybe, some of the critics raise valid points. This (false) attitude they possess of everyone being against her is why they don't learn from their mistakes.
She's her own worst enemy.
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Great post, you hit the nail on the head
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Member Since: 2/5/2012
Posts: 1,412
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Originally posted by SupahBass05
No one on ATRL actually attacks an argument. They just deflect the question by calling the poster pressed. Of course she cares about it all. I'm afraid for her if ARTPOP underperforms. She'll say something like it's ahead of its time. Although to be fair, she said she doesn't care about the money. She obviously cares about the charts, however.
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The thing about Bionic, though - If radio actually gave any one of Christina's singles a meaningful amount of airplay and Bionic flopped then, yes, it would be fair to say that people weren't feeling the music. But three very different songs (Not Myself Tonight, WooHoo and You Lost Me) were never even played enough to be ingrained in the public psyche and reach middle America. That would be the difference between ARTPOP and Bionic; Applause already has 50 million AI.
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Member Since: 2/12/2012
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Hypocritical, my ass, ya'll . Sit the **** down.
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Member Since: 12/12/2004
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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That's because you are finished.
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Member Since: 8/27/2011
Posts: 13,026
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Originally posted by martikaisback
The thing about Bionic, though - If radio actually gave any one of Christina's singles a meaningful amount of airplay and Bionic flopped then, yes, it would be fair to say that people weren't feeling the music. But three very different songs (Not Myself Tonight, WooHoo and You Lost Me) were never even played enough to be ingrained in the public psyche and reach middle America. That would be the difference between ARTPOP and Bionic; Applause already has 50 million AI.
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That is evidence of it (Bionic) being a flop, not the reason why it flopped. Radio usually play what gets requested and what the people want. Nobody wanted those singles.
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Member Since: 8/17/2013
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All true, And lol @ some people just not being able to help them-self
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Member Since: 2/9/2008
Posts: 32,819
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Originally posted by vamp
Why am I getting Xtina Bionic vibes from this. I guess the next thing she's going to say is that ARTPOP was ahead of it's time.
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Oof, rough.
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Member Since: 8/19/2011
Posts: 2,362
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Originally posted by inspiration4
Everything she said was perfectly true.
With that said, she's clearly bothered by the way things are going.
The only thing that bothers me is that she seems to lumps all criticism into the same category, and perceives all of it as a being a desire to write her off. Rather than taking a minute to even consider that Applause shouldn't have been the first single, or that maybe people genuinely aren't feeling it, she instead masks that possibility with this narrative that it's due to society wanting to see her fail, when the reality is that this extreme sentiment is confined to a few forums on the internet. Regular people don't think about this at all, they just want good music, that's it.
The irony is that if she does fail, or under-perform, or whatever, it's solely due to her and her team being to dense to consider that maybe, just maybe, some of the critics raise valid points. This (false) attitude they possess of everyone being against her is why they don't learn from their mistakes.
She's her own worst enemy.
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I agree with most of this - but I disagree that people outside forums like ATRL are simply passive consumers who just want to hear good music; discussing things on forums doesn't necessarily make us any more critical than someone who just bops to songs on car rides to work - they have their own opinions too of what is a "good" pop star and what they think of Gaga.
That said though, some critics raise valid points about her and her image, and her and her team should listen. You can't be so dedicated to your "art" as a "pop" artist without hitting rough spots - but then, that's what what this era is about I guess.
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
Posts: 12,079
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"I think that once you've had a few No 1s in your career that you've kind of proven yourself and I don't feel the need to prove anything anymore."
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That's a stupid mentality for someone who has only been in the industry for 5 years. You should always strive to do better and as she even put it "snatch your own wig' not just musically (even though that's subjective), performing wise (even though she is still performing the same way she has been for the past 3 years), but success wise on the charts (which is the only place she's not going higher lately).
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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No.People HOPE you're finished.
Stay strong Gaga.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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yes gaga, drag half of atrl who think like that
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Member Since: 8/3/2012
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She did it to herself... when you're a gimmick you become exactly that. Like someone said early on, she should have given us a little bit by bit.
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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I kinda disagree with the 'don't feel like I have to prove anything anymore' part but the rest is truth.
And she's so lurking here.
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Member Since: 11/30/2008
Posts: 8,146
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if she thinks she has nothing to prove anymore to anybody then just quit Mrs.
But yea, she's right when she says "People focus less on the music and focus more on how the music's doing"
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Member Since: 4/25/2011
Posts: 41,661
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She's not done yet but she definitely has hit her peak.
I don't think she'll be done since she has abruptly solidified herself already. One of only three women during the late 2010s along with Rihanna and Katy Perry. Kesha could've been but she flopped so hard this era.
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Member Since: 4/25/2011
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Originally posted by Cain
I kinda disagree with the 'don't feel like I have to prove anything anymore' part but the rest is truth.
And she's so lurking here.
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Haha absolutely. She still has a long way to go. She hasn't proven herself to be versatile at the same time commercial. All of her singles were radio friendly. She needs diversity. The shock value is over for her it's not gaining anymore traction.
Right now she really needs to focus more on her music because if Applause is an indication of what ARTPOP will sound like it will not be a good era for her. It's a good song but it's nothing really special.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
Posts: 457
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Originally posted by jomarr
Haha absolutely. She still has a long way to go. She hasn't proven herself to be versatile at the same time commercial. All of her singles were radio friendly. She needs diversity. The shock value is over for her it's not gaining anymore traction.
Right now she really needs to focus more on her music because if Applause is an indication of what ARTPOP will sound like it will not be a good era for her. It's a good song but it's nothing really special.
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I agree. What happened to the girl who wanted to outdo herself? I personally think Applause is actually good. I thought it was her best, but after a few hundred plays, the hype died down and I put the song into perspective.
I love that she's following her own vision, but sometimes her judgment is clouded by her own pretentiousness. I'm glad that she has confidence, but I don't think she should let it breed complacency. She still has a lot to prove, to herself, and to the world, before she can make such a statement. Peaking after three years is not an achievement. I don't give a **** about chart success, and I don't give a **** about critical acclaim. I care about whether I enjoy it or not, and I'm not the nostalgic kind of stan, either. I just want her to have optimistic, though realistic, ambitions, because she is a relative newbie to the industry when compared to others who have been in it for decades.
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