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Chart Listings: Billboard Hot 100 Singles (December 26-January 2, 2013)
Member Since: 7/23/2012
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Originally posted by ClashAndBurn
Single sales will be irrelevant within a couple years, tbh. But the ratio will probably remain the same, so the Hot 100 will essentially be an airplay chart like it was ten years ago
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Which ultimately means more #1 singles for Rih. 
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Originally posted by Cz!
I'm confident they will recalibrate their formula again.  |
Same bro
Decrease the % for Radio and put it like the same with digital sales and increase Streaming like 10-20%
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Quote:
Originally posted by ClashAndBurn
Single sales will be irrelevant within a couple years, tbh. But the ratio will probably remain the same, so the Hot 100 will essentially be an airplay chart like it was ten years ago
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I think the relevance of sales will depend on whether several major artists continue to be excluded from streaming services.
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Member Since: 11/15/2010
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the criteria should be
50% - Sales
40% - Radio
10% - Streaming
my opinion only
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Member Since: 12/11/2008
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Catch My Breath top 30...  Please, smash, be the next "Some Nights" 
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Member Since: 9/27/2011
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Originally posted by Roberto
Catch My Breath top 30... Please, smash, be the next "We Are Young" |
Fixed
Yes SN had great longevity but I want the song to hit #1 lol 
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Member Since: 11/10/2011
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Originally posted by johnrm
the criteria should be
50% - Sales
40% - Radio
10% - Streaming
my opinion only
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That's probably roughly what it is right now. Billboard said the biggest factor in the charts atm is still sales.
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Member Since: 6/29/2011
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I wish in some way they could count illegal downloads as sales. I mean even if they did 2 downloads = one sale. That would be a much better gauge of how popular songs/albums are. Unrealistic but i still wish
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Member Since: 2/15/2012
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Originally posted by Tsuko
If digital did decline, and streaming blew up, wouldn't it balance itself out anyway?
If it's true that they get the number of streams each week and use a multiplier to get the "points", then surely in a few years time when the #1 streaming song is getting 5 million streams per week or whatever, then it'll count a lot more to the Hot 100 naturally.
It's just the same as what happened with downloads. When they were introduced in 2005, they didn't have that much of an impact, but by 2008 after digital sales had gotten really big, it ended up being the dominant factor in the chart.
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Billboard would have to balance their chart more for that to be a possibility. They tend to be inflexible with that, mainly because the music industry does not take to changes very well.
I'd imagine the major label record companies are furious about streaming being a component, because now, that's even less of something that they control over. The only control they have is to withhold their artists from these platforms, which... As we have seen with Taylor Swift and Justin Bieber, only serves to hurt their artists chart positions more than it helps them.
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Originally posted by Retro Dance Freak
I think the relevance of sales will depend on whether several major artists continue to be excluded from streaming services.
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Major sellers like Taylor, Adele, and (to a somewhat lesser extent) Gaga will probably be left off for a while. And when that shows to hurt their chart positions overall, the record companies will have to cave in.
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Originally posted by ClashAndBurn
Major sellers like Taylor, Adele, and (to a somewhat lesser extent) Gaga will probably be left off for a while. And when that shows to hurt their chart positions overall, the record companies will have to cave in.
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I'm really hoping Gaga isn't left off at all, I don't need anything else threatening her Hot 100 charting capabilities. 
Plus, she might push for her material to be included since it would benefit some of her fans who don't use iTunes or Amazon.
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Originally posted by Retro Dance Freak
I'm really hoping Gaga isn't left off at all, I don't need anything else threatening her Hot 100 charting capabilities.
Plus, she might push for her material to be included since it would benefit some of her fans who don't use iTunes or Amazon. |
In the end, the record companies are rather shortsighted and probably don't really recognize that what they're doing does more harm than good. They can't use payola to push a a song up the streaming charts like they do with radio.
Interscope have not been showing themselves to be on a good wavelength lately, seeing how they sabotaged Nelly Furtado and Madonna's eras just recently. They aren't even pushing enough for Carly to have a true follow-up hit, so... 
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Originally posted by ClashAndBurn
In the end, the record companies are rather shortsighted and probably don't really recognize that what they're doing does more harm than good. They can't use payola to push a a song up the streaming charts like they do with radio.
Interscope have not been showing themselves to be on a good wavelength lately, seeing how they sabotaged Nelly Furtado and Madonna's eras just recently. They aren't even pushing enough for Carly to have a true follow-up hit, so... |
Well, I'll just hope and pray that they see the light when it comes to their biggest(?) earner.
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Member Since: 2/15/2012
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Originally posted by Retro Dance Freak
Well, I'll just hope and pray that they see the light when it comes to their biggest(?) earner. |
She is currently, but not all-time, I don't think.
Eminem, Dr. Dre, The Black Eyed Peas and Tragic Kingdom-era No Doubt have all brought them more commercial success, and Timbaland was the biggest producer in the industry for a good couple of years.
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Predictions:
1. Locked Out of Heaven/I Knew You Were Trouble
2. I Knew You Were Trouble/Locked Out of Heaven
3. Ho Hey
4. Diamonds
5. Beauty and a Beat
6. Die Young
7. One More Night
8. Home
9. Thrift Shop
10. Try
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Member Since: 9/15/2006
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49 48 51 Gotye featuring Kimbra, Somebody That I Used To Know
Gotye's at 51 weeks too. I hope he can manage more weeks in. He'll surely be increasing on next week's chart.
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Member Since: 6/19/2010
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It looks like all the songs are slowing down on iTunes. But I still hope that Taylor can get that #1.
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Member Since: 12/15/2008
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Originally posted by Disturbia
It looks like all the songs are slowing down on iTunes. But I still hope that Taylor can get that #1.
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That's what everyone wants
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Member Since: 12/13/2011
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Originally posted by Ger-55
That's what everyone wants
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And that's not gonna happen, without streaming and plus the difference between radio AI is 1:2.
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Member Since: 8/24/2008
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I really wanna see those Xmas sales
I'm PRAYING Taylor somehow sold enough to hit #1.
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