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Discussion: Why you all call Katy basic?
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Originally posted by The Best One Yet
Rihanna will? 
She did it in 2007/2008 where album sales were bigger and single sales were lower. And Loud only sold 500k more than TD.
And all her #1 iconic hit singles are not promo? Don't be a fool, Stay and Diamonds were huge hits, We Found Love too, and her album sales are always decent, only two of her albums had remarkable sales. |
Wait, so Loud still outsold Teenage Dream.... even though it was re-released? LOL
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Same sounds
Childish music
Based on funny instead of voice
Replaceable
Not deep
Not transcendental
Not good live voice
No dancing skills
Only thing she aint basic is at bra size
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Originally posted by ethanrihs
The albums that Rihanna stopped promoting a month or two after it's release.
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Whatever happened, happened.
If your lazy fave promoted or not, most of her albums are 3M+ sellers.
And she had hits, airplay, the most important things you need to sell albums.
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Originally posted by ethanrihs
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Oh my...
Yes, because you're declining if you keep having 5M+ selling singles and then suddenly your next one sells 1M  . But as I said, Katy's standards are so high that anything below a #1 now is considered a flop from her .
And I didn't say she didn't do remixes, I said that the remixes didn't significantly aid in the singles becoming #1s, everyone knows that 
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Thirdly, the GGGB remix album barely did anything to boost it's sales so don't try it.
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Is that why GGGB is the best selling Rihanna album?
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Originally posted by CarterTax
How is Katy basic? 
She changed the game with her Trap anthem, "Dark Horse" and her speech anthem, "Unconditionally". The people calling ha basic must be haters, cause all I can see is a future icon.  |
Apparently, they all sound the same - so she's basic for that reason.
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Originally posted by CakeLike
If you actually believe that i feel sorry for you. Rihanna has took plenty of more risks in her career than Katy. Just look at rihannas leas singles then look at Katys. Would Katy dare to try releasig something like Russian Roulette for a lead single? Would she release something like Diamonds for a lead single, ever? The answer is no, please don't compare the two , rihanna has been taking risks all through her career which is why most people see her as far from basic as you can get. Just look at Rihannas dark album Rated R and compare it with Katys supposed dark album Prism, do they both seem similarly risky to you?
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Clock it!
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The off topic in here 
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Originally posted by ethanrihs
Wait, so Loud still outsold Teenage Dream.... even though it was re-released? LOL
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So? The self-drag GGGB was re-released too, do you think her sales are not good?
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Originally posted by zzmyth
Safe choices
Same sounds
Childish music
Based on funny instead of voice
Replaceable
Not deep
Not transcendental
Not good live voice
No dancing skills
Only thing she aint basic is at bra size
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 I see no lies!
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Originally posted by Bey_Rihstan
Yas, she better Outsell Rihanna's Half Assed Promoted albums!
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...how is an album with a #1 hit and a song that sold over 4 million in the US and a performance at the freaking grammys "half assed promoted"???? she doesn't do as much promo as katy but that's totally illogical. people knew about her album and heard singles from it. that's what promo is supposed to do.
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Originally posted by CakeLike
If you actually believe that i feel sorry for you. Rihanna has took plenty of more risks in her career than Katy. Just look at rihannas leas singles then look at Katys. Would Katy dare to try releasig something like Russian Roulette for a lead single? Would she release something like Diamonds for a lead single, ever? The answer is no, please don't compare the two , rihanna has been taking risks all through her career which is why most people see her as far from basic as you can get. Just look at Rihannas dark album Rated R and compare it with Katys supposed dark album Prism, do they both seem similarly risky to you?
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The holes in this argument.. 
1) Rih doesn't write her own singles. So you can't say she's the one taking the risk.
2) Diamonds is not a risky single and never will be.
3) PRISM was never branded as a dark album. In fact, it's always been referred to as the EXACT opposite.  At people who make up lies to back up their argument.
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Originally posted by The Best One Yet
She isn't but people think trying hard like Gaga or pretending to be 'artistic' is better than doing something good, simple and entertaining without pretending to be Mozart. This is pop music, if people in ATRL really wanted to talk about talented musicians or songwriters then Katy, Gaga, Britney, Rihanna would be out of discussion.
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Katy Perry is NOT an album seller. 
Selling more (way more, I just don't know the figures) than 15M songs off an album WW and yet managing to only sell 3M of said album is a TRAGEDY.
Menawhile, true album sellers actually bring the attention of people and actually convince them to buy their albums based on the listener experience with the singles.
Beyoncé, for example, hasn't even sold 5M singles in her Bey era but already sold 3M copies of her album. The album/single ratio is much more healthy and shows listeners actually enjoy her singles enough to buy the full project.
OT: Well, this was just my introduction on the topic of the thread. There it is the proof that Katy is basic, and I'm not the only one who thinks that. If she had an interesting personality, she would motivate people enough to check for her content. It doesn't seem the case. People buy her quick-lil' singles, but they don't bother to buy the album cause they know it doesn't contain anything unique or not done  Other artists are selling the same amount of albums weekly without a big smash hit (Lorde, for example, outselling her this week on BB200).
I don't get how Cats try to prove she's in full control of her career. If my faves released the type of songs that Katy does, I would trying to convince people OTHERWISE. I would say, I don't know, they're being force by their labels to put commercial songs instead of the songs they really wanted to put there.
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Originally posted by zzmyth
Safe choices
Same sounds
Childish music
Based on funny instead of voice
Replaceable
Not deep
Not transcendental
Not good live voice
No dancing skills
Only thing she aint basic is at bra size
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Pretty much sums up your fave.
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I don't understand either. If ARTPOP had Dark Horse, Roar and Birthday, some of you would be saying how Gaga is going back to her fun Fame days, while still being artistic.
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Originally posted by Lazerbeamz
Oh my, the logic 
Asking me whether I can read or not when that question should be directed to you yourself....
WHEN did I ever say Rihanna wasn't slaying? You're saying that Rihanna is the one that got the same number of #1s as Katy in the same timespan of her (which would be 3 albums) and then you post singles that have went #1 in 2012 and 2013
NINE #1s in the FIRST THREE albums, do you get it? |
Yeah, WE get it. DO YOU GET IT dumbass?
Do you comprehend what everyone else has been saying dumbass?
Listen, DUMBASS, everyone has been saying that she is basic because she follows a formula to get those quick hits. She offers nothing to this industry. She has absolutely NO impact. No Grammys, NO prestige, No respect because she IS basic.
Getting those quick lil No. 1s is no big deal when you have Dr,. Luke producing for you & Bonnie McKee writing for you.
Now she is even struggling to get those quick No.1s because the GP has figured out out her formula & schemes.
Now do you get it, dumbass?
Now swerve, DUMBASS!
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Originally posted by Lazerbeamz
Oh my...
Yes, because you're declining if you keep having 5M+ selling singles and then suddenly your next one sells 1M . But as I said, Katy's standards are so high that anything below a #1 now is considered a flop from her .
And I didn't say she didn't do remixes, I said that the remixes didn't significantly aid in the singles becoming #1s, everyone knows that
Is that why GGGB is the best selling Rihanna album?
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Yes, because you're declining if you keep having 5M+ selling singles and then suddenly your next one sells 1M
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Well, yes. Yes you are declining. By 4 million. Which is a HUGE amount.
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didn't significantly aid in the singles becoming #1s, everyone knows that
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That's a lie. The E.T remix helped a lot. I'm sure it was promoted way more than the original version.
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Originally posted by Monarchy
Katy Perry is NOT an album seller.
Selling more (way more, I just don't know the figures) than 15M singles WW and yet managing to only sell 3M of said album is a TRAGEDY.
Menawhile, true album sellers actually bring the attention of people and actually convince them to buy their albums based on the listener experience with the singles.
Beyoncé, for example, hasn't even sold 5M singles in her Bey era but already sold 3M copies of her album. The album/single ratio is much more healthy and shows listeners actually enjoy her singles enough to buy the full project. |
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She is an album seller. Selling 3M albums now, selling 7M previously and selling 5 million.
In this climate, that's an album artist.
She's both. She's a singles and albums artist. I think that's much better than being just an album seller.
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Originally posted by CakeLike
Would she release something like Diamonds for a lead single, ever?[
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Originally posted by CakeLike
Would Katy dare to try releasig something like Russian Roulette for a lead single? Would she release something like Diamonds for a lead single, ever?
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....how is diamonds even remotely close to a risky single choice??? 
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