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Discussion: Are You Pro Life or Pro Choice?
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Originally posted by TREMendo
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Originally posted by Jewfro
I'm pro-choice in every instance, whether it be rape, incest, dangerous to the mother's health, inconvenient, an accident, personal whim, etc. Term limits are interesting, though. I'm not sure at what stage the fetus becomes "human," or if it even does until it is born.
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This hits sort of close to home for me. I was born nine weeks premature. I weighed less than 3lbs. My ears were like bologna (say my parents). They put me in an incubator for two months and, against all odds, I came out well.
Oddly, I'm still firmly pro-choice. But the term thing gets messy.
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Ok, so all you pro lifers are telling me that you would rather see a parent that didn't want the kid to stay with it just because they didn't abort him/her and then live to hate the kid and potentially ruining their lives and cause the kid to suicide themselves or the parents killing them? The kid would be miserable or would be hurt to get their life taken away.
With abortion there is still no connection and the fetus can't think. Sure it might still hurt. BUT having the kid and potentially ending their life is much worse then ending the life of a fetus.
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.... I was supposed to be aborted.
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Originally posted by eli's_rhythm
This hits sort of close to home for me. I was born nine weeks premature. I weighed less than 3lbs. My ears were like bologna (say my parents). They put me in an incubator for two months and, against all odds, I came out well.
Oddly, I'm still firmly pro-choice. But the term thing gets messy.
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It's a different situation for different people, I get why you are pro choice too.
I was 8 weeks premature and barely made it, yet my Mom still-birthed twins who were actually older than me..I survived and they didn't...it's odd how some things work out. Some babies just aren't meant to be. I believe a baby is a baby when it is born. Until it comes out it is a fetus. Even if it is born dead it is a baby. However I agree with only allowing abortions in the first trimester, there is a point where the baby is too developed to abort, they develop a higher brain capacity...a heart beat and they look like a child. For me at that stage...it is wrong no matter what.
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Originally posted by TREMendo
.... I was supposed to be aborted.
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And you are still pro-choice. Interesting. I like the unbiased of it all.
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Originally posted by Yourfavefan
Ok, so all you pro choicers are telling me that you would rather see a parent that didn't want the kid to stay with it just because they didn't abort him/her and then live to hate the kid and potentially ruining their lives and cause the kid to suicide themselves or the parents killing them? The kid would be miserable or would be hurt to get their life taken away.
With abortion there is still no connection and the fetus can't think. Sure it might still hurt. BUT having the kid and potentially ending their life is much worse then ending the life of a fetus.
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I think you mean pro-lifers 
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Originally posted by Yourfavefan
Ok, so all you pro choicers are telling me that you would rather see a parent that didn't want the kid to stay with it just because they didn't abort him/her and then live to hate the kid and potentially ruining their lives and cause the kid to suicide themselves or the parents killing them? The kid would be miserable or would be hurt to get their life taken away.
With abortion there is still no connection and the fetus can't think. Sure it might still hurt. BUT having the kid and potentially ending their life is much worse then ending the life of a fetus.
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Can you explain this again? seriously, no shade. Read it two times and I still don't get it.
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Originally posted by Beyond Say
Only in American can someone call themselves Pro Guns and Pro Death Penalty then turn around and call themselves Pro life.
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What's hilarious is that I'd never thought about that conservative connection before.
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Originally posted by Bea.
And you are still pro-choice. Interesting. I like the unbiased of it all.
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My father once he found out left my mom, my mom said **** it.. this is my son and she kept me.
She CHOSE life.
It was two consenting adult, she knew what would happen, did she have the money, no.. but..
there's this thing about the human instinct.. we do things under pressure
women who abort sell themselves short really....
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Originally posted by TREMendo
My father once he found out left my mom, my mom said **** it.. this is my son and she kept me.
She CHOSE life.
It was two consenting adult, she knew what would happen, did she have the money, no.. but..
there's this thing about the human instinct.. we do things under pressure
women who abort sell themselves short really....
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But isn't there something beautiful about the fact that she wanted you, she chose you. You were wanted. As I said, every situation is different, you never know what is going on. Obviously your Mother felt that although it would be a struggle she could do it and you were worth it. That is beautiful.
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Originally posted by Bea.
But isn't there something beautiful about the fact that she wanted you, she chose you. You were wanted. As I said, every situation is different, you never know what is going on. Obviously your Mother felt that although it would be a struggle she could do it and you were worth it. That is beautiful.
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and I admire that in women, even if she until this day detests my father... she still looks at me as the little engine that could.. and the lives that I've helped, the things i've accomplished in the 26 years i've roamed.... would've never been if a woman would've said no... now you know what she's older and I can help and take care of her!
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Originally posted by JungleDisturbia
This is where I completely agree. I am more "Pro-Life" when it comes to ignorant sex, if that makes sense. If there is a legitimate reason, and not just "Oh, next time we should be more careful", then I'm all for the choice. I just think this type of situation is more common than mental health, rape, etc, so I just label myself as "Pro-Life".
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Okay, hold on a second. Let me get this straight.
You think that if a bitch is not intelligent and responsible enough to make her partner put a damn condom on, she is responsible enough to be a mother? To a living, breathing, needy child?
This is why I am 100% Pro-Choice in all instances. There are more than enough horrible mothers out there. I'd rather have a baby/fetus/whatever be killed before it can feel anything rather than them even potentially suffer through the pain of a uncaring/unfit mother.
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what confuses me are people who say they're pro-life unless the woman is at risk of losing her life..
I still say that's PRO LIFE.... you're but choosing the life of the mother...
Oh I hate when they call the babies parasites OMG, that enrages me!
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Originally posted by TREMendo
I'm Pro-choice
When you chose to open your legs... that was your choice, now when your choice was taken away and you were raped then you have a choice and not even.
It's not the governments job to say what women do with their body, but it is their duty to defend people protect life
isn't a butterfly a caterpillar before it is a butterfly... Fetus is merely a stage of LIFE
I've never seen anything DEAD grow... once gestation starts THAT is the beginning of life
90% of abortion is for SELFISH reasons
"I'm not ready" - then you weren't ready for sex
"I don't have enough money' - condoms cost 1 and sometimes are free if you want them bad enough
"The father and I are not in a position to have children" then you shouldn't got into position to have sex
WITH ALL THE CONTRACEPTIVES READILY AVAILABLE.. there shouldn't be a reason why people
Accidentally get pregnant...
We all know the risks involved in getting in a car, but we put on seat belts to be safer... doesn't necessarily mean that if we get in an accident that we'd be 100% secure.. if something, god forbid happens there isn't a vacuum to REVERSE the accident.
I think that people should accept the responsibility to their actions and stop COWARDING away from responsibility
You had you choice, you took it, this happened... now... deal with it.
it's not the babies fault.
Funny thing is probably 100% of you pro-choice people are disgusted with Casey Anthony... all she did technically was have a LATE LATE Abortion she wanted to live life without responsibility of a child...
Whatever, y'all are hard-headed and will pass-over the post and continue with your life as you did before...
oh FYI Notice... none of my post had anything to do with RELIGION
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Wait so you're actually pro-choice? lol
Some people have different ideas about life. That's the problem with the abortion issue. I don't agree with you on that. Killing an independent, conscious being is different from aborting a fetus. Especially if you're aborting it because you know it would have a ****** life vs. killing a child because you're a crazy bitch.
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Originally posted by Bea.
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OOPS... I do mean pro-lifers ... lol
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Originally posted by Onen
Can you explain this again? seriously, no shade. Read it two times and I still don't get it.
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sorry... I meant pro lifers if that makes everything easier
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Originally posted by eli's_rhythm
This hits sort of close to home for me. I was born nine weeks premature. I weighed less than 3lbs. My ears were like bologna (say my parents). They put me in an incubator for two months and, against all odds, I came out well.
Oddly, I'm still firmly pro-choice. But the term thing gets messy.
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It really does. I don't know what my position is on term limits. But, I will say that I'm glad you made it out well 
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Originally posted by Canonical Ensemble
- It's not that women wants to be on abortion beds every weekend. It's a nightmare. They'd rather stay home and listen to 21 and wait for the baby to be born if they think they can somehow deal with the pregnancy.
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Member Since: 2/9/2008
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Originally posted by Bea.
It's a different situation for different people, I get why you are pro choice too.
I was 8 weeks premature and barely made it, yet my Mom still-birthed twins who were actually older than me..I survived and they didn't...it's odd how some things work out. Some babies just aren't meant to be. I believe a baby is a baby when it is born. Until it comes out it is a fetus. Even if it is born dead it is a baby. However I agree with only allowing abortions in the first trimester, there is a point where the baby is too developed to abort, they develop a higher brain capacity...a heart beat and they look like a child. For me at that stage...it is wrong no matter what.
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That's pretty insane.
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Originally posted by TREMendo
My father once he found out left my mom, my mom said **** it.. this is my son and she kept me.
She CHOSE life.
It was two consenting adult, she knew what would happen, did she have the money, no.. but..
there's this thing about the human instinct.. we do things under pressure
women who abort sell themselves short really....
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You're lucky, but not everyone is as great as your mom.
Does anyone remember how they felt as a fetus? People compare it to killing a person, but if they never really experienced consciousness in the first place, why would it matter? A fetus couldn't "want" to stay alive if it never knew how to be alive in the first place. It would just be that the fetus hadn't existed. In its OWN mind.
I don't think any pro-choicers are really condoning having abortions every year and continuing to have unprotected sex. And there is a confusing, dizzy line between the merits of abortion and the merits of choice that I think this thread has crossed.
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I'm pro-choice. It should and should only be the choice of the mother and father (well mostly the woman who's carrying the baby), as they are they only ones effected by it. They are the ones who will have live the decision... not you, and not me.
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