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Poll: Are you for or against the Burqa?
View Poll Results: Burqa or Bur-no?
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Ban it.
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68.72% |
Don't ban it.
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I don't know.
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Member Since: 3/6/2014
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To people making the "religious freedom!!" argument, Islam does not require women to wear burqas so it's not protected by religious freedom.
They need to be banned in public areas. If you allow them to remain legal or make it a "personal choice" than it is fundamentally not going to be a choice since women will still be forced to wear them. Tired of people being oppressed and security risks being created in the name of "religious freedom".
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Member Since: 8/17/2013
Posts: 7,248
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Ban it, and the Niqab too while you're at. Besides being a security risk, such symbols of oppression do not belong in open secular societies.
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Member Since: 5/27/2016
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I am absolutely against it like overwhelming majority here.
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Member Since: 3/15/2013
Posts: 19,723
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we all have our own definitions of freedom. and we think everyone should conform to our way of life because we're always right, but when the other side does it, theyre barbarians and subhuman?
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Member Since: 5/27/2016
Posts: 1,718
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It doesn't actually say in Islam that women have to wear a Niqab or Burqa, both were implemented by man. But at the same time, i feel like it's freedom of expression and dress. If we want to be progressive and say women should feel no shame or be shamed for wearing little clothes, then you can't go against a woman choosing to show nothing.
If we want to #FreeTheNipple we also have to accept #ShowNothing
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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To be honest, the garment stems from sexism so i'm obviously not a fan of it.
I'm kind of torn because I don't wanna support the burqa but I don't want to support racism (because lets be honest, most of the people voting to ban the burqa will be racists).
I love how the right-wing pretend to care about rights to attack 'brown people'.
Y'know, they'll mention how islam treats women and gays and then treat them in a way that isn't much better.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
Posts: 15,921
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mess at the gays and atheists in here defending women that they say chooses to wear those as if they need your approval of your support. Didn't a woman who lives in Afghanistan said how women don't need men to fight for them when those men were protesting that women should be allowed to wear something other than burqa.
You really think if a woman who is brainwashed enough to wear a burqa would see you who are an atheist or an LGBT defending her "right to choose" and be like: "yep, those homosexual atheists are pretty decent people, lemme support their secular lifestyles, despite me being all super religious, supporter of Sharia law and devoted muslim to Allah "
Get real and stop being so delusional for your SJW bs
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Member Since: 5/27/2016
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People defending Burqas saying 'women should be allowed to wear what they want'.
Do you guys even know why Burqas exist in the first place?
"And say to the faithful women to lower their gazes, and to guard their private parts, and not to display their beauty except what is apparent of it, and to extend their headcoverings (khimars) to cover their bosoms (jaybs), and not to display their beauty except to their husbands, or their fathers, or their husband's fathers, or their sons, or their husband's sons, or their brothers, or their brothers' sons, or their sisters' sons, or their womenfolk, or what their right hands rule (slaves), or the followers from the men who do not feel sexual desire, or the small children to whom the nakedness of women is not apparent, and not to strike their feet (on the ground) so as to make known what they hide of their adornments. And turn in repentance to Allah together, O you the faithful, in order that you are successful"
— Qur'an, Surah 24 (An-Nur), Verse 31
The whole idea of a Burqa is to NOT let the women choose how to dress.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Member Since: 5/27/2016
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Quote:
Originally posted by MrYorkshireFenty
It doesn't actually say in Islam that women have to wear a Niqab or Burqa, both were implemented by man. But at the same time, i feel like it's freedom of expression and dress. If we want to be progressive and say women should feel no shame or be shamed for wearing little clothes, then you can't go against a woman choosing to show nothing.
If we want to #FreeTheNipple we also have to accept #ShowNothing
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Member Since: 9/4/2008
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Originally posted by LordMombi
Her religion and culture won't allow her to leave her husband. You saying the woman having a choice is flawed. You're helping it become a wasteland.
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Her religion is not intertwined with the legal system in EU. Only in muslim countries.
So yes, she can leave her husband and throw the burqa in the trash if she wants in Germany. The only thing stopping her is herself, and that's what makes it a choice.
Burqa is just a clothing object. If you have a problem with religion oppressing women, maybe try directing your frustration elsewhere. This is just more oppression.
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Member Since: 5/27/2016
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Originally posted by Pop
How is EU becoming a wasteland because of what people choose to wear? If the woman doesn't want to wear a burqa in Germany, she can simply take it off and leave her husband. If he has a problem, she can report him to the police. Hardly a wasteland.
How would you feel if somebody told your mother that she is suddenly forced to go everywhere in a skimpy bikini? I'm guessing you wouldn't be happy about that.
As an atheist living in a catholic country, I know what it's like being silenced. It's not a good feeling. Don't do that to others, please. It won't solve anything.
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Member Since: 8/17/2013
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Originally posted by Pop
Her religion is not intertwined with the legal system in EU. Only in muslim countries.
So yes, she can leave her husband and throw the burqa in the trash if she wants in Germany. The only thing stopping her is herself, and that's what makes it a choice.
Burqa is just a clothing object. If you have a problem with religion oppressing women, maybe try directing your frustration elsewhere. This is just more oppression.
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Yeah ok so her most likely conservative Muslim family would just let her leaver her husband, abandon her cultural traditions & religion with no problems
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Member Since: 9/4/2008
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Originally posted by Harrier
Yeah ok so her most likely conservative Muslim family would just let her leaver her husband, abandon her cultural traditions & religion with no problems
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Legally, she's allowed to. And if she wants to be a part of her cultural tradition and religion, WHICH INCLUDES WEARING THE BURQA (!!!), we should let her do it.
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Member Since: 7/15/2012
Posts: 30,915
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Originally posted by AvrilLaQueen
mess at the gays and atheists in here defending women that they say chooses to wear those as if they need your approval of your support. Didn't a woman who lives in Afghanistan said how women don't need men to fight for them when those men were protesting that women should be allowed to wear something other than burqa.
You really think if a woman who is brainwashed enough to wear a burqa would see you who are an atheist or an LGBT defending her "right to choose" and be like: "yep, those homosexual atheists are pretty decent people, lemme support their secular lifestyles, despite me being all super religious, supporter of Sharia law and devoted muslim to Allah "
Get real and stop being so delusional for your SJW bs
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What even is this post
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by Kool_Aid_King
You legit have no idea how women in Pakistan are treated lol. I'm Pakistani and was raised by a woman who's dealt with all of that.
These middle eastern countries aren't barbaric. Pakistan has women showing their stomachs, ankles, knees on TV and all that. They're going through their own revolution, let them deal with their own issues and stop fake worrying about us.
You pretend like you care about how these women are treated but when it comes to accepting them into your country, Hell no. GTFO here with that mess.
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THIS HAD ME HOWLING!!!
Pakistan, leader of the world in equality! Let's just forget about the honor killings, rampant sexism and femicide and acknowledge you can show ANKLES on Pakistani TV! Progress!
'These ME countries aren't barbaric' ??? What planet are you on? They're the most barbaric countries on earth.
On topic - BAN IT! Go wear them in the freedom-loving, equal-rights society of Saudi Arabia if you want to. It's a security risk and degrading to our men and women. No thanks!
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Member Since: 10/19/2010
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ban it. anything that covers the face should be illegal.
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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@ the gays here being against burqas
ofc I support it.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by Euan
THIS HAD ME HOWLING!!!
Pakistan, leader of the world in equality! Let's just forget about the honor killings, rampant sexism and femicide and acknowledge you can show ANKLES on Pakistani TV! Progress!
'These ME countries aren't barbaric' ??? What planet are you on? They're the most barbaric countries on earth.
On topic - BAN IT! Go wear them in the freedom-loving, equal-rights society of Saudi Arabia if you want to. It's a security risk and degrading to our men and women. No thanks!
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educate ha
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