[Jicky]

This is ugly but what I heard Slovenia, Croatia and Austria already agreed between each other that they will send all refugees towards Hungary. I have however no source to back this up. I would not be surprised going by official statements from Croatia and Austria lately.

[ivi]

But isn't Hungary building a fence, where will they go?!

[Jicky]

Originally posted by ivi

But isn't Hungary building a fence, where will they go?!

I'm guessing until they can

[AvrilLaQueen]

if syrian and iraq refugees fight each other with rocks, imagine what will they do to us on gay parade

[GypsyLife]

Originally posted by AvrilLaQueen

if syrian and iraq refugees fight each other with rocks, imagine what will they do to us on gay parade

They also fought with Afgani refugees

[Idontcareaboutyou]

Originally posted by Jicky

This is ugly but what I heard Slovenia, Croatia and Austria already agreed between each other that they will send all refugees towards Hungary. I have however no source to back this up. I would not be surprised going by official statements from Croatia and Austria lately.

This will do wonders for the relations between these countries.

[ivi]

Originally posted by AvrilLaQueen

if syrian and iraq refugees fight each other with rocks, imagine what will they do to us on gay parade

that's a huge problem no one thinks about, not just the gays but also women and work. it will all be a mess.

it's like some part of europe will be thrown back for 50 years or so.

[LeonazNumber#1]

Can someone please explain Denmarks position in this crisis? Why do they have an opt out and why are the migrants skipping in Denmark for Sweeden considering Denmarks brilliant economy...

[stevyy]

Originally posted by Nialler

Germany was supposed to take them all and closed the borders after barely 20k arrived. They need to stop acting so above the rest of EU.

germany didn't stop, germany only wants to get the control back. i mean 10k refugees per day in munich is something no city can endure.

I would want germany to stop taking any new refugees as long as the EU disputes over quotas. IF the eastern countries do not want anymore refugees then they should deal with what they have already (on their own). #my opinion.

germany seems to be one of very few countries that actually do have control over their borders. i mean if germany was in hungary's place, it would not have let refugees overrun the borders to begin with and.. germany also doesnt need a fence. if nothing works and the police doesnt know what to do anymore, then you get your national military to the borders (in agreement with the neighbouring countries).

also a word to the refugees: people who don't follow our laws need to be expelled. Religion is sth of very LOW importance in Germany, so when some teenage girls want to wear skirts and a top to school in the summer then nobody should have a say in that except for the parents.

islam needs to open up if it wants to exist in Germany. That is sth Angela Merkel should also say publicly. And then Muslim people could decide for themselves if they still want to come here or rather want to go to a muslim country where their religion still matters (and plays a political rule).

[Opacho]

Originally posted by ivi

that's a huge problem no one thinks about, not just the gays but also women and work. it will all be a mess.

it's like some part of europe will be thrown back for 50 years or so.

Are y'all dense? How is it gonna become a problem when they can't stay here legally even if they wanted to because of our migration policies... Also I doubt they'll be able to influence Croatia in any way especially religiously, no one's gonna fund building of their temples or whatever. Besides, getting a job here when you're immigrant is not an easy feat to achieve unless you were scouted. Either way they can't stay here in the long run.

[GypsyLife]

Originally posted by stevyy

germany didn't stop, germany only wants to get the control back. i mean 10k refugees per day in munich is something no city can endure.

I would want germany to stop taking any new refugees as long as the EU disputes over quotas. IF the eastern countries do not want anymore refugees then they should deal with what they have already (on their own). #my opinion.

germany seems to be one of very few countries that actually do have control over their borders. i mean if germany was in hungary's place, it would not have let refugees overrun the borders to begin with and.. germany also doesnt need a fence. if nothing works and the police doesnt know what to do anymore, then you get your national military to the borders (in agreement with the neighbouring countries).

Angela Merkel the Schabowski of 2015.

[ivi]

Originally posted by Opacho

Are y'all dense? How is it gonna become a problem when they can't stay here legally even if they wanted to because of our migration policies... Also I doubt they'll be able to influence Croatia in any way especially religiously, no one's gonna fund building of their temples or whatever. Besides, getting a job here when you're immigrant is not an easy feat to achieve unless you were scouted. Either way they can't stay here in the long run.

sorry i wasn't talking about croatia .......i just meant in general.

[AnneBoleyn]

Croatians are dropping off migrants at the Hungarian border and Hungarians are transporting them by buses to Austria http://www.jutarnji.hr/policija-zatv...d-nas/1420334/

What is even going on anymore??

[Schhh]

Poor Austria.

[*Tim]

Originally posted by hummingbird12

I just love when somebody from west EU country says that eastern countries are irresponsible, unprepared ect. Like just imagine why are they struggling and holding more than 100 000+ ppl . Because west doesn't want them ! West is not prepared so they are commanding holding, deportating , documenting ect.

Just imagine if some small western countrie like belgium, netherlands , portugal ect is in the same position as serbia, hungary, croatia , greece . They would treat them even worse. Just look how ppl from africa /middle east are integrated in those societes - they can't get the real chance to succeed even though many of them are born there. They live in ghettos. So if 100 000+ people started to rush in i bet they would do the same thing.

nobody is criticizing Denmark and they've returned more than 800 of them back to germany few days ago. They are against imigration quotas just like UK . But we only hear about slovakia , serbia, croatia, hungary

Hypocrisy

Nobody was prepared for this. Neither the West or the East. This ain't a problem just for the west, it's a problem for the whole of Europe. The Schengen Nations signed a treaty in which they all will protect the borders of the Schengen Area. Which is what some of the eastern countries are lacking in right now.

I';m not sure what the integration of african people in Western countries has to do with anything but speaking for Germany, Belgium and The Netherlands, they do not live in ghetto's. Yes they struggle in the work-related area and that is an issue that needs to be fixed, but let's not pretend they are accepted in the slightests in Eastern Europe.

I didn't know Denmark sent immigrants back to germany, but once again that is not the issue at stake. The main issue is that the countries DON'T protect their borders, like Croatia, who is willing to let all the immigrants pass without registering/checking for documents/whatever else is needed.

Clock me if I'm wrong but these are my 2 cents.


EDIT: Why the **** are they being transported to Austria now, what is this mess
Like Europe is incapable of doing somethig together at this point and everyone is just doing what is best for themselves

[HEIDI]

Us in this thread:

[LuLuDrops]

What a mess. Some countries are just winging it at this point.

There should have a concerete plan ages ago and plan Bs in case of a flop.

[PhreshDiamond]

Originally posted by AnneBoleyn

Croatians are dropping off migrants at the Hungarian border and Hungarians are transporting them by buses to Austria http://www.jutarnji.hr/policija-zatv...d-nas/1420334/

What is even going on anymore??

a mess, the migrants being tossed around like rag dolls because no one knows what to do with them.


I'm interested to see what happens when winter is in full swing, its not going to be an option to just sleep/live like they have been doing on the sides of roads and train tracks unless they want to die from the cold & wet.

Maybe winter will stop the flow a bit giving people time to think about what to do with them.

[Jicky]

Originally posted by *Tim

Nobody was prepared for this. Neither the West or the East. This ain't a problem just for the west, it's a problem for the whole of Europe. The Schengen Nations signed a treaty in which they all will protect the borders of the Schengen Area. Which is what some of the eastern countries are lacking in right now.

I';m not sure what the integration of african people in Western countries has to do with anything but speaking for Germany, Belgium and The Netherlands, they do not live in ghetto's. Yes they struggle in the work-related area and that is an issue that needs to be fixed, but let's not pretend they are accepted in the slightests in Eastern Europe.

I didn't know Denmark sent immigrants back to germany, but once again that is not the issue at stake. The main issue is that the countries DON'T protect their borders, like Croatia, who is willing to let all the immigrants pass without registering/checking for documents/whatever else is needed.

Clock me if I'm wrong but these are my 2 cents.


EDIT: Why the **** are they being transported to Austria now, what is this mess
Like Europe is incapable of doing somethig together at this point and everyone is just doing what is best for themselves

And what should for instance Hungary do in this case!? We are trying to protect Europe but all every country does it criticizing us. I want to see when Austria gets overwhelmed by the sheer numbers trying to enter how will they cope! But this applies to every contry in the west.

About them not living in ghettos, well I lived 9 years in London, maybe they don't call them ghettos per se but some do live in ghetto like environment.

[PhreshDiamond]

Originally posted by Schhh

Croatian PM doesn't know Hungary is building the fence with Croatia right now.

This walking dead saga teas.