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Album: Lady Gaga - 'ARTPOP' (#2)
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Originally posted by ALΞX
I don't mean to sound rude, but I honestly don't care about the rest of the world lol I was speaking solely based on the US since I live here.  |
Even in the US, I feel like it is a but of a stretch to think Applause will be able to last another month without killing the era's momentum.
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Member Since: 8/29/2012
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Originally posted by Ramos
I don't know why some of the people here are so afraid of Gaga going out of the box again. I'm here for her being a hot mess again and do some crazy ****. That's what made the GP love her.
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Member Since: 8/13/2012
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Originally posted by toanythingtaboo
I wouldn't worry about ARTPOP under-performing.
A lacklustre era isn't going to kill her. If anything, it will help her in the long run because it'll make her evaluate what she wants and where she's going - i.e. play the pop game for the stadiums, #1s and sales, or follow a more experimental path for creative satisfaction. Continuing to straddle ART and POP isn't really going to work. She got away with eccentricities before because she had hype and novelty, but now that's faded...the reality is that 'full on Gaga' mode is too hard for most to swallow. Team Gaga probably put BTW's mixed reception down to it being polarising, and it's success will have cushioned the blow, but a real under-performance would be an eye opener for them and her. If ARTPOP "flops", Gaga will be forced to fight or let go.
My guess is that she'll fight. Whilst you can tell she's in it for the music, it's also obvious that she craves validation through success (not necessarily charts/sales) and wants a legacy. With that in mind, you can bet album #5 will come hard. And probably quite soon.
I've said it before, but I think part of the Gaga story is going to be overcoming. She's not the girl next door who everyone roots for or the popular girl who people are used to winning - she's an eternal underdog who'll sometimes get the last laugh. We've seen her slay, and then people got tired of the weird girl and wanted to go back to the easy-on-the-eyes-and-ears girls norm. Well, it's only a matter of time before that gets boring again and 'Gaga the underdog' will start looking more attractive. At the moment, people aren't quite at this stage. They're still enjoying the sugar high, and frankly need to see her fall some more before seeing her as the underdog.
A return to form shouldn't be difficult. With Gaga, it'll be a matter of timing and hitting the right buttons. i.e. if she can strike in 2014 with ARTPOP vol. 2 when the competition is winding down, with hitmaker co-created material, great collabs and an easier to swallow image - bingo.
However, the album could do well.  |
This was an incredible read!
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Think about it, the album climbed the charts extremely fast after the MK trailer came out. Think about what will happen when actual promo begins
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Member Since: 2/18/2012
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Single #2 should come on the 21st or the 28th. I'd like her to announce and hype it up first though.
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Member Since: 3/16/2012
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Originally posted by HausOfA-M
Applause has peaked a long time ago outside the US, and even there she needs to build some hype. November is definitely too late, considering she isn't probably even releasing a promo single.
I would like something like this:
7/10: album cover
8/10: Aura promo single on iTunes attached to ARTPOP pre-order (with updated cover)
9/10-20/10: a performance to give Applause its final push
14/10: reveal tracklist + announce second single
21/10 or 28/10: second single on iTunes attached to ARTPOP pre-order (with updated tracklist)
21/10 or 28/10: start worldwide promo
4/11: album available for streaming
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I agree, she may be holding up in the US, but waiting too long for the second single would be like starting all over again in some territories. Waiting for another single to die down to release the other is a bad idea given this scenario. Radio is smart enough to know which is the new single and it's not like "Applause" is smashing and the second single would be obliterated.
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Member Since: 3/12/2012
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I think tomorrow Gaga and ryan will announce a collab on ARTPOP with another pop girl !
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Member Since: 8/28/2012
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Originally posted by HausOfA-M
Idk, you need a lot of digital power to make multiple promo singles work and Applause first week, though I believe isn't really indicative of her full digital potential right now (rushed, and hurt by Roar), wasn't good. I'd say the best thing to do right now is release Aura to test the waters and give the era some exposure worldwide.
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Honestly, I would care less about the promo singles selling well.
But I know for a fact that every card she puts out, it will help her image and most importantly will help the album to sell.
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Originally posted by toanythingtaboo
I wouldn't worry about ARTPOP under-performing.
A lacklustre era isn't going to kill her. If anything, it will help her in the long run because it'll make her evaluate what she wants and where she's going - i.e. play the pop game for the stadiums, #1s and sales, or follow a more experimental path for creative satisfaction. Continuing to straddle ART and POP isn't really going to work. She got away with eccentricities before because she had hype and novelty, but now that's faded...the reality is that 'full on Gaga' mode is too hard for most to swallow. Team Gaga probably put BTW's mixed reception down to it being polarising, and it's success will have cushioned the blow, but a real under-performance would be an eye opener for them and her. If ARTPOP "flops", Gaga will be forced to fight or let go.
My guess is that she'll fight. Whilst you can tell she's in it for the music, it's also obvious that she craves validation through success (not necessarily charts/sales) and wants a legacy. With that in mind, you can bet album #5 will come hard. And probably quite soon.
I've said it before, but I think part of the Gaga story is going to be overcoming. She's not the girl next door who everyone roots for or the popular girl who people are used to winning - she's an eternal underdog who'll sometimes get the last laugh. We've seen her slay, and then people got tired of the weird girl and wanted to go back to the easy-on-the-eyes-and-ears girls norm. Well, it's only a matter of time before that gets boring again and 'Gaga the underdog' will start looking more attractive. At the moment, people aren't quite at this stage. They're still enjoying the sugar high, and frankly need to see her fall some more before seeing her as the underdog.
A return to form shouldn't be difficult. With Gaga, it'll be a matter of timing and hitting the right buttons. i.e. if she can strike in 2014 with ARTPOP vol. 2 when the competition is winding down, with hitmaker co-created material, great collabs and an easier to swallow image - bingo.
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Agree 100% 
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Gaga should do M&G's 
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Originally posted by government****
Gaga should do M&G's |
As long as she doesn't charge $1000 for them, then I am here for it.
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Why are you guys already talking like ARTPOP will fail...?
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toanythingtaboo her essay
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Originally posted by toanythingtaboo
I wouldn't worry about ARTPOP under-performing.
A lacklustre era isn't going to kill her. If anything, it will help her in the long run because it'll make her evaluate what she wants and where she's going - i.e. play the pop game for the stadiums, #1s and sales, or follow a more experimental path for creative satisfaction. Continuing to straddle ART and POP isn't really going to work. She got away with eccentricities before because she had hype and novelty, but now that's faded...the reality is that 'full on Gaga' mode is too hard for most to swallow. Team Gaga probably put BTW's mixed reception down to it being polarising, and it's success will have cushioned the blow, but a real under-performance would be an eye opener for them and her. If ARTPOP "flops", Gaga will be forced to fight or let go.
My guess is that she'll fight. Whilst you can tell she's in it for the music, it's also obvious that she craves validation through success (not necessarily charts/sales) and wants a legacy. With that in mind, you can bet album #5 will come hard. And probably quite soon.
I've said it before, but I think part of the Gaga story is going to be overcoming. She's not the girl next door who everyone roots for or the popular girl who people are used to winning - she's an eternal underdog who'll sometimes get the last laugh. We've seen her slay, and then people got tired of the weird girl and wanted to go back to the easy-on-the-eyes-and-ears girls norm. Well, it's only a matter of time before that gets boring again and 'Gaga the underdog' will start looking more attractive. At the moment, people aren't quite at this stage. They're still enjoying the sugar high, and frankly need to see her fall some more before seeing her as the underdog.
A return to form shouldn't be difficult. With Gaga, it'll be a matter of timing and hitting the right buttons. i.e. if she can strike in 2014 with ARTPOP vol. 2 when the competition is winding down, with hitmaker co-created material, great collabs and an easier to swallow image - bingo.
However, the album could do well. |
Well said
Personally, I don't care about success. It's an added bonus and I've had my meltdowns because of some of her choices, but in the end I'll always stan for this woman regardless of how well she does commercially.
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Originally posted by government****
Gaga should do M&G's |
Only if you give her your coins. 
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I cant believe were hours away from getting the album cover  ! May the thread of the year tomorrow go swell ! 
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Member Since: 8/28/2012
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Originally posted by toanythingtaboo
I wouldn't worry about ARTPOP under-performing.
A lacklustre era isn't going to kill her. If anything, it will help her in the long run because it'll make her evaluate what she wants and where she's going - i.e. play the pop game for the stadiums, #1s and sales, or follow a more experimental path for creative satisfaction. Continuing to straddle ART and POP isn't really going to work. She got away with eccentricities before because she had hype and novelty, but now that's faded...the reality is that 'full on Gaga' mode is too hard for most to swallow. Team Gaga probably put BTW's mixed reception down to it being polarising, and it's success will have cushioned the blow, but a real under-performance would be an eye opener for them and her. If ARTPOP "flops", Gaga will be forced to fight or let go.
My guess is that she'll fight. Whilst you can tell she's in it for the music, it's also obvious that she craves validation through success (not necessarily charts/sales) and wants a legacy. With that in mind, you can bet album #5 will come hard. And probably quite soon.
I've said it before, but I think part of the Gaga story is going to be overcoming. She's not the girl next door who everyone roots for or the popular girl who people are used to winning - she's an eternal underdog who'll sometimes get the last laugh. We've seen her slay, and then people got tired of the weird girl and wanted to go back to the easy-on-the-eyes-and-ears girls norm. Well, it's only a matter of time before that gets boring again and 'Gaga the underdog' will start looking more attractive. At the moment, people aren't quite at this stage. They're still enjoying the sugar high, and frankly need to see her fall some more before seeing her as the underdog.
A return to form shouldn't be difficult. With Gaga, it'll be a matter of timing and hitting the right buttons. i.e. if she can strike in 2014 with ARTPOP vol. 2 when the competition is winding down, with hitmaker co-created material, great collabs and an easier to swallow image - bingo.
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You're a legend
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Member Since: 8/30/2011
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Originally posted by Eric.
I agree, she may be holding up in the US, but waiting too long for the second single would be like starting all over again in some territories. Waiting for another single to die down to release the other is a bad idea given this scenario. Radio is smart enough to know which is the new single and it's not like "Applause" is smashing and the second single would be obliterated.
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This was supposed to be her big ww comeback single and she didn't even bother to promote it outside the US. 
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Member Since: 5/11/2011
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Originally posted by judaskills
Why are you guys already talking like ARTPOP will fail...?
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Because we thought Applause would smash hard and look how it did. We should be afraid tho, there's not a smash hit single to support the album, there's no hype (and I don't mean the fans), there's nothing going on. I guess the promo will really start to kick in in the following weeks. All I know is that she needs a smash and appealing hit single, she REALLY needs it right now in a WW scale.
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