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News: Shootings/explosion in Paris
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Originally posted by kyogul
it's the same concept to both oh my lord  |
No its not. One is saying you hate people, one is saying you hate ideologies.
Saying you hate Catholicism isn't saying that you hate the Pope and Catholics.
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Originally posted by vamp
Honestly my religion brings me a lot of peace and I usually gain wisdom from it especially when I look towards it for answers. I cant say the same for other religions though.
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you don't need "religion" to gain wisdom
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Member Since: 9/12/2011
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Originally posted by ontherocks
Cool, will you post that you hate Christians and Jews, too?
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Criticizing and hating is not the same 
Saying religion is stupid =/= saying you hate religious people. You're not hating on the person, you're not even hating on the belief... It's just hard for people to understand how some people get mad over something that's not real (most likely).
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Member Since: 1/3/2014
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Originally posted by L/\DY G/\G/\
No its not. One is saying you hate people, one is saying you hate ideologies.
Saying you hate Catholicism isn't saying that you hate the Pope and Catholics.
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Member Since: 1/6/2014
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Originally posted by Gouldkaty
how can people still believe in god after things like this happen  |
Because a religion is a path to find god and the ISIS religion, the ISIS path to find god is not the same path as the christian, muslim, hindu an all the other religions follow. ISIS believes that their purpose in life is destroying the world in order to find god. Hating all religions because ISIS's actions is like hating all humans because of Adolf Hitler's actions.
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Member Since: 11/22/2009
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Originally posted by Gouldkaty
how can people still believe in god after things like this happen |
How can you not?
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Member Since: 1/20/2012
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Some of you are extremely stupid.
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Member Since: 8/7/2015
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Originally posted by L/\DY G/\G/\
No its not. One is saying you hate people, one is saying you hate ideologies.
Saying you hate Catholicism isn't saying that you hate the Pope and Catholics.
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it's ****ing generalised HATRED at the end of the day. doesn't make a difference if it's with people or not
you guys' superficiality is so damn transparent  keep politics out of this infested forum please
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Member Since: 3/17/2012
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Originally posted by chris1991
Islam isn't a religion of terrorist in any way shape or form.
However it is a religion were most terror seems to come from.  |
The Quran contains at least 109 verses that call Muslims to war with nonbelievers for the sake of Islamic rule.
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Member Since: 1/1/2013
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Originally posted by ianBK4
How safe is Belgium? My cousin is going to move there in January to study. She will probably stay the whole year there. Would Sweden be a safer choice? she can choose between both.
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All those countries run the same risk + Europe is uniting over this. All in all Europe is very safe, I wouldn't worry.
This is the first time in 70 years that a Dutch PM has uttered the words "we are at war", media is very impressed/shocked right now, they are looking into the legal consequences of this statement 
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Member Since: 4/14/2011
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Originally posted by ontherocks
I have actually, but that doesn't matter here or have you been to a muslim country and lived there for years to come to the assumption that the vast majority there supports ISIS or extremists in general?
I honestly can't wait for your numbers.
You also need to understand that the ISIS kills muslims, too. Basically everybody who does not follow their rules and radical views. Do you think that when they attack in Paris and maybe somewhere else in the future, that they will make sure there are no muslims around?
Besides, we have stepped into the age of terror for a long time now. For the western countries it started on 9/11 and these attacks will become more frequent.
But I can tell you, 20 or 30 years from now (probably), you will face all kinds of terrorism in different shapes and forms and just as drastic as these attacks in Paris.
Currently for instance, I personally fear that right-winged organisations will attack, too. They are just waiting for something like this in Paris to happen more often.
And they are already getting louder in some european countries, Germany for instance.
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Exactly, the far right is just as capable. Look at Norway attacks in Oslo and Utoya Island not so long ago, those were perpetrated by a Christian man from the far right
It is just important to remember that the people committing these acts are extremists and don't represent an entire group. That rhetoric could lead to more senseless violence
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Member Since: 11/22/2009
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Originally posted by Gouldkaty
you don't need "religion" to gain wisdom
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Sure, but my religion helped me gain wisdom, so I don't agree with you saying that all religions are bad. They're not.
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Originally posted by ontherocks
Cool, will you post that you hate Christians and Jews, too?
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There's a difference between criticizing a specific religion's teachings and criticizing the people who follow it. For example, the Quran, I believe, encourages murdering non-believer and is incredibly misogynistic (I believe a women needs multiple men to verify she's been raped when she makes an accusation. Otherwise, not only does the rapist walk free, she gets punished for having sex) So I definitely have major issues with Islam.
Of course, not every Muslim practices this form of Islam, and it would be ignorant to act as if they did. Therefore, I don't have issues with Muslim people in general (specific ones, sure, but I also have problems with specific Christians, atheists, etc.)
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Originally posted by Nialler
Why would he do that? They're not responsible for any of those attacks  |
I personally don't consider the attackers Muslims, either.
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Member Since: 1/6/2014
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Originally posted by Nialler
Why would he do that? They're not responsible for any of those attacks |
Oh my god, neither are the muslims.
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At least five people were killed and seven injured after a train derailed and plunged into a canal in France, according to local reports.
Photographs of the wreckage show its carriages half submerged in the water outside Eckwersheim, Strasbourg.
Rescue workers were seen approaching the mangled train on rubber dinghies and tending to the wounded by the side of the canal.
It is not known what caused the test TGV to come off the tracks or whether the death toll is expected to rise.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...ter_mailonline
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Member Since: 9/14/2010
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Originally posted by Gouldkaty
why do people think hating religion is wrong?
hating a race is wrong, not hating a religion
hating arabs is wrong, not hating islam. |
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Originally posted by J a y
If you were to compare the beliefs of both Muslims and Islamic extremists, you'd know the difference between them.
ISIS want you to think Islam is one religion and all Muslims (even Zayn Malik) are terrorists.
THIS IS INCORRECT.
By saying that, you're enforcing fear upon Muslims who may not have the strength to remain faithful to their beliefs.
Zayn Malik (the Muslim example here) would then actually not be a Muslim in the eyes of Allah, if he were to join ISIS.
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Originally posted by J a y
The Islamic State aren't a group of psychopaths, contrary to widespread belief.
They're counting down the days to the "Apocalypse" and they want to be a key player in it. Their religious beliefs of Islam are ancient and do not match those of modern times, yet they use propaganda to gain more members (mostly targeting Muslims who have differing beliefs). Whilst it seems their actions are merciless, they do have goals.
Firstly, they infiltrate and gain riches (that's oil) to fund their expansion (earning hundreds of millions each year). Secondly, they rebuke everything we believe in for the purpose of caliphate, an Islamic empire that fights for global territorial expansion, with all Muslims under one religious and political entity.
In short: They want money, power, glory, and to be recognised as a religion, and one that all Muslims should be apart of.
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Hopefully the point doesn't fly over ones head this time.
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TV says a train just derailed in France. At least 5 people died.
That can't be linked to the terrorist attacks, right?
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Member Since: 11/22/2009
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Originally posted by DownBoy
The Quran contains at least 109 verses that call Muslims to war with nonbelievers for the sake of Islamic rule.
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How can people follow a hateful religion.
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Member Since: 1/1/2013
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Originally posted by Gouldkaty
how can people still believe in god after things like this happen |
How can you still believe in science once a theory is falsified? How can you still believe in medicine when Ebola and AIDS can't be cured yet? I mean, people have ideas and are looking for something, if we had found God or proven he doesn't exist we wouldn't have all this drama. It's a process/a quest
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