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Chart Listings: Mediabase & Radio Formats (2003-2009 Archives)
Member Since: 7/31/2003
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Originally posted by InTheZone05
Sucks that Fly couldn't really take off.
It's her best song.
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So Yesterday and Come Clean are much better, imo.
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Member Since: 6/25/2004
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^I think that too because "Fly" is kinda dark.
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Member Since: 8/24/2003
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Originally posted by bianca-wonka-2
if this were 1997-2001 you wouldn't hear a thing about how black artists can get more spins than other artists.
'cause majority of the top 40 was white.
but now that black artists are taking over the top 40, there is an excuse that they are able to get more spins.
they got the same amount of spins 5 years ago.
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They had the same amount of spins but white artsits had BIGGER SINGLE SALES. and that's why they charted so high and above black artists. Nowadays, when nobody buys cd singles [only the american idol fans], it's obvious that Black artists will ALWAYS have more chances of charting higher in tops like the Hot100.
And rodarte, the fact that you have a black artist featured in your song doesn't mean that you'll get all the adds in urban. You have no idea. And if so, then tell me... why did Boys flop?.
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Member Since: 1/23/2003
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Dc3 lose my breath has 22 million audience impressions in their 4th day.
THAT'S AMAZING
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Member Since: 6/9/2002
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Originally posted by Cuculiza
They had the same amount of spins but white artsits had BIGGER SINGLE SALES. and that's why they charted so high and above black artists. Nowadays, when nobody buys cd singles [only the american idol fans], it's obvious that Black artists will ALWAYS have more chances of charting higher in tops like the Hot100.
And rodarte, the fact that you have a black artist featured in your song doesn't mean that you'll get all the adds in urban. You have no idea. And if so, then tell me... why did Boys flop?.
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because all the singles in the britney era were banned by Clear channel ... the only stations that played boys were non clear channel statios.. less than 15%...
Jennifer lopez isnt black and her singles peak high in the charts when she is featuring with some random rapper...
carwash flop because the song itself sucks
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Member Since: 1/23/2003
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Destiny's child - Lose my breath, is gonna debut inside the top 40 next week cause i know it will have more than 40 milion audience impressions.
In 4 days, it has had over 20 million, just 2 or 3 more dyas to get 20 other more audience impressions
Usually to be top 20 on the billboard u have to have like 57 milion, i think they can make it.
Be no. 1 in about 4 to 6 weeks.
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ATRL Senior Member
Member Since: 10/1/2002
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- Nice too see that Avril will most likely hit #1
- Car Wash and Tilt Ya Head Back are fizzling out
- DC3 is just woah
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Member Since: 9/28/2001
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Originally posted by Cuculiza
They had the same amount of spins but white artsits had BIGGER SINGLE SALES. and that's why they charted so high and above black artists. Nowadays, when nobody buys cd singles [only the american idol fans], it's obvious that Black artists will ALWAYS have more chances of charting higher in tops like the Hot100.
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not all the singles on the top back then were getting high singles sales. maybe bsb and brit.
Maybe nowadays that kind of music isn't popular. maybe people actually "enjoy" black music and that's why it's on top. but that's just my opinion.
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Member Since: 7/31/2003
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Hilary picked up quite a bit. I think I know the reason why. 
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Member Since: 8/24/2003
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Originally posted by Rodarte
because all the singles in the britney era were banned by Clear channel ... the only stations that played boys were non clear channel statios.. less than 15%...
Jennifer lopez isnt black and her singles peak high in the charts when she is featuring with some random rapper...
carwash flop because the song itself sucks
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1-Jennifer Lopez get a lot of adds in urban just for her hip hop songs featuring BIG rappers [aka LL Cool J, ja rule, etc].
2-Who cares about clear channel, Boys wouldn't have been added in urban just because it's a white artist!!!!!!.
3-Right now Tilt Ya Head back is gaining some adds on urban, just because it's nelly!.
4-You have no idea of what you're talking. I mean, Wouldn't toxic have gone top5 if it wasn't for the bunch of rappers ahead of her?.
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Member Since: 9/28/2001
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maybe toxic wasn't as good as those "bunch of rappers" songs ahead of her.
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Member Since: 4/27/2002
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Originally posted by bianca-wonka-2
maybe toxic wasn't as good as those "bunch of rappers" songs ahead of her.
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That's debatable because rap appeals to more of an audience then pop. To the pop audience though, that song was god compared to the rap songs ahead of her on the Hot 100.
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Member Since: 9/28/2001
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i don't know about rap appealing to a bigger audience.
and of course there are different opinions of songs that should be on top. i'm saying that just 'cause white artists aren't on top anymore doesn't mean they have to make up excuses for 'em.
like saying it's 'cause singles aren't selling as much anymore.
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Member Since: 7/23/2004
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Basically, what it boils down to is that R&B, hip-hop, and rap (the 3 main styles of music that many popular black artists today record) songs are played on 3 formats: Rhythmic, Urban, and Pop, while pop (a style of music that many popular white artists record) songs only get played on Pop (with the exception of more pop/rock oriented songs that also get some Hot AC airplay). There are of course exceptions to the rule, but those are the general trends.
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Member Since: 6/9/2002
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Originally posted by Cuculiza
1-Jennifer Lopez get a lot of adds in urban just for her hip hop songs featuring BIG rappers [aka LL Cool J, ja rule, etc].
2-Who cares about clear channel, Boys wouldn't have been added in urban just because it's a white artist!!!!!!.
3-Right now Tilt Ya Head back is gaining some adds on urban, just because it's nelly!.
4-You have no idea of what you're talking. I mean, Wouldn't toxic have gone top5 if it wasn't for the bunch of rappers ahead of her?.
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toxic is not r&B or hip hop, its trip-hop, which is a kind of music which is very unpupular in USA, while Carwash is hip hop.
ANd missy ellios is a BIG RAPPER...
and, Boys,i'm slave 4 U get Spins on URBAN(not like 1000, but they were played on urban stations) ...
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Member Since: 8/24/2003
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Originally posted by KikiMets
Basically, what it boils down to is that R&B, hip-hop, and rap (the 3 main styles of music that many popular black artists today record) songs are played on 3 formats: Rhythmic, Urban, and Pop, while pop (a style of music that many popular white artists record) songs only get played on Pop (with the exception of more pop/rock oriented songs that also get some Hot AC airplay). There are of course exceptions to the rule, but those are the general trends.
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AMEN.
By the way, maybe it's me or Car wash is one of the "poppest" songs Christina has ever done. And toxic is pure "cool pop".
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Member Since: 6/9/2002
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hahah, isn't funny. how you tried to justified xtina, Missy elliot in the poppest christina's song? LMAO
and toxic is trip hop, but pop, because is POPular (like smell like a teen spirit was pop because the song was popular)
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Member Since: 9/28/2001
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Originally posted by KikiMets
Basically, what it boils down to is that R&B, hip-hop, and rap (the 3 main styles of music that many popular black artists today record) songs are played on 3 formats: Rhythmic, Urban, and Pop, while pop (a style of music that many popular white artists record) songs only get played on Pop (with the exception of more pop/rock oriented songs that also get some Hot AC airplay). There are of course exceptions to the rule, but those are the general trends.
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i know there is only 1 hiphop/rnb station in my area and 1 pop. and only "popular" hiphop and rnb artists get played on the pop stations. 80% of the songs played on rap stations wouldn't even be thought of at a pop radio station. but a new rock group or pop artist (or black artist with pop songs) will easily get their stuff played on pop stations.
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Member Since: 7/23/2004
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Originally posted by bianca-wonka-2
i know there is only 1 hiphop/rnb station in my area and 1 pop. and only "popular" hiphop and rnb artists get played on the pop stations. 80% of the songs played on rap stations wouldn't even be thought of at a pop radio station. but a new rock group or pop artist (or black artist with pop songs) will easily get their stuff played on pop stations.
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Good point. There are a lot of R&B, hip-hop, and rap songs that don't cross over, but those that do tend to get huge airplay on Pop radio.
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Member Since: 1/5/2004
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41 38 SKYE SWEETNAM Tangled Up In Me 1201 1170 31 3.326
42 39 VANESSA CARLTON White Houses 1191 1009 182 7.138
30 40 D12 How Come 1180 1635 -455 8.041
 i wanted white houses to be a hit! :cry:
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