[Fearless]

What's interesting to me is that a majority of artists don't seem to have a problem with the popular streaming services, and those that do(Taylor and the Tidal crew) happen to be millionaires.

[TaylorFantasy]

Lord is so articulate

[h.u.r.r.i.c.a.n.e]

Originally posted by Lovato

Taylor said "we don't ask you for free iPhones"...hmmm, who's we? The artists? Cos her fans sure do.

And as if Apple has not provided celebs with free products to market...
coughcoughkatyperry18keditionapplewatchcough

lol Apple sending out a dozen watches to celebrities is they decision and they absorb the cost. On the other hand this affects the entire music industry and there's probably a lot more money in terms of sheer volume on the line.

[Caesar]

Originally posted by iHype.

I think she makes a good point; but she's not taking into consideration that 3 months are free instead of the usual 30 day trial behind services because in return Apple is paying more royalties than Spotify and other services. Has she heard of putting it all on the table, to win double in the end? That's basically what they're trying to do.

If they come out with a 1 month trial or nothing that sets them apart, they'll end up potentially falling down the sea along with TIDAL. However, by doing something so huge with an already huge brand they're just trying to secure the Streaming department actually becomes huge and makes a threat against Spotify.

I don't think it was Apple trying to come off as greedy or to make the best for them, but at the same time I think a mid-way point needs to be drawn. Maybe offer a 'maximum or cut amount of pay' for the first 3 months, such as if an artist gets $3000 worth in streams, they'll receive $1500, but after the 3 months, they will receive their 100% of $3000 worth in streams versus Spotify doing $2500 in streams of the same amount which in the end is a good deal.

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[h.u.r.r.i.c.a.n.e]

Also kii @ anyone saying the iPhone comparison makes no sense. It definitely does. Every single time an artist takes out their iPhone or mentions it anywhere, that's countless free valuable promo.

Apple is promoting their service by making artists absorb the cost. By that logic, Apple should be giving out free products to celebrities all the time.

[Nat A]

Originally posted by Fearless

What's interesting to me is that a majority of artists don't seem to have a problem with the popular streaming services, and those that do(Taylor and the Tidal crew) happen to be millionaires.

These are not the complaints of a spoiled, petulant child. These are the echoed sentiments of every artist, writer and producer in my social circles who are afraid to speak up publicly because we admire and respect Apple so much. We simply do not respect this particular call.

[Letícia L.]

David Tolliver ‏@DavidTolliver 35 min
@taylorswift13 From a guy who just got paid $1.61 for over 2 million plays on 1 song on just 1 Internet streaming site, thank you Taylor!

[Haus]

Originally posted by h.u.r.r.i.c.a.n.e

Also kii @ anyone saying the iPhone comparison makes no sense. It definitely does. Every single time an artist takes out their iPhone or mentions it anywhere, that's countless free valuable promo.

Apple is promoting their service by making artists absorb the cost. By that logic, Apple should be giving out free products to celebrities all the time.

What? That makes no sense. Apple doesn't ask anyone to pull out their iPhones in public. If they happen to be celebrities then that's their choice.

And also, a 3 month period isn't the same as giving someone something forever.

And lastly, phones are tangible objects that individually cost money to produce so Apple would be losing actual product. Audio files aren't tangible and can be reproduced so the labels aren't losing anything.

It's a stupid, nonsensical comparison.

[Caesar]

But yet she still allows 1989 on illegal sites

[Haus]

Originally posted by Letícia L.

David Tolliver ‏@DavidTolliver 35 min
@taylorswift13 From a guy who just got paid $1.61 for over 2 million plays on 1 song on just 1 Internet streaming site, thank you Taylor!

I don't understand why he's thanking her? How are his earnings even relevant? If he's making less than $2 off millions of streams what does he have to lose from the Apple trial which will eventually earn him more money?

[TaylorFantasy]

Originally posted by Caesar

But yet she still allows 1989 on illegal sites

she loves her fans. selfless queen of pop

[Fearless]

Originally posted by Nat A

and yet their music remains on these services so I guess she doesn't speak for as many of them as she thinks

[Lovato]

Originally posted by h.u.r.r.i.c.a.n.e

lol Apple sending out a dozen watches to celebrities is they decision and they absorb the cost. On the other hand this affects the entire music industry and there's probably a lot more money in terms of sheer volume on the line.

Okay, you are right, it's a small price to pay, but that still goes against what she said "we don't ask you for free iPhones".

Nevertheless, many artists are fine with Apple's policy. Taylor seems to be the one that's always complaining about everything. I'm not just talking this Apple Music business or even Spotify, but it seems like every time she's on the news she's bitching about something.

Let the indies speak for themselves. They sure as hell don't need a fat cat artist defending them.

[Ace Reject]

Originally posted by Raava

No, honey. They have a way of limiting people from creating new accounts: by not allowing the same credit card to be used for a free trial a second time. That's what Spotify does.

Originally posted by Raava

Honey, firstly, stop saying ******** without any confirmation. Every streaming service does a free trial accordingly to when a person joins. And there's another way of stop people from circumventing the system: by linking it to your Facebook or something.
Like Spotify is a place where you can not only listen to music, but see what your facebook friends are listening to, Apple Music is gonna be like that. That prevents people from creating account after account after account, cause then you wouldn't be able to connect to your facebook or else they would know it was the same account. I know there will be some losers who don't care about that, but most people like the social aspect of this, and it works for their benefit.

STOP with the honeys. Don't condescend, or you will be warned.

[TikiMiss]

Originally posted by Shinning

Spotify paid very badly, Apple isn't paying anything for 3 months.
Taylor speaks against it, ATRL praises it.
Jay-Z speaks against it, creates a service more favorable to all kinds of artists, ATRL drags him.
Predictable.

Lol @ u acting like only atrl did when everyone from forbes to nytimes called the greedy money grubbing tidal for what it was. It wasnt atrl being atrl it was the world not swallowing ********

[TaylorFantasy]

Originally posted by Lovato

Okay, you are right, it's a small price to pay, but that still goes against what she said "we don't ask you for free iPhones".

Nevertheless, many artists are fine with Apple's policy. Taylor seems to be the one that's always complaining about everything. I'm not just talking this Apple Music business or even Spotify, but it seems like every time she's on the news she's bitching about something.

Let the indies speak for themselves. They sure as hell don't need a fat cat artist defending them.

ddd lmao
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that's how you become the queen
EDIT: Probably because she's also a smart businesswoman? I'm not sure but I say she is <3

[Cas]

Originally posted by Haus

What? That makes no sense. Apple doesn't ask anyone to pull out their iPhones in public. If they happen to be celebrities then that's their choice.

And also, a 3 month period isn't the same as giving someone something forever.

And lastly, phones are tangible objects that individually cost money to produce so Apple would be losing actual product. Audio files aren't tangible and can be reproduced so the labels aren't losing anything.

It's a stupid, nonsensical comparison.

But the money that is lost during those 3 months will be lost forever. The artist and labels will be getting absolutely nothing.

[Lovato]

Originally posted by TaylorFantasy

ddd lmao
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that's how you become the queen

A drama queen, for sure.

[TikiMiss]

Originally posted by Lovato

Okay, you are right, it's a small price to pay, but that still goes against what she said "we don't ask you for free iPhones".

Nevertheless, many artists are fine with Apple's policy. Taylor seems to be the one that's always complaining about everything. I'm not just talking this Apple Music business or even Spotify, but it seems like every time she's on the news she's bitching about something.

Let the indies speak for themselves. They sure as hell don't need a fat cat artist defending them.

U realize the whole shtick about being indie is that no major publication cares to listen to them right? U think John Basement Guitarist or Lady starlight will have the same media power of fighting injustice as Taylor Swift?

[Caesar]

Originally posted by Cas

But the money that is lost during those 3 months will be lost forever. The artist and labels will be getting absolutely nothing.

They will gain more after the 3 months, than if Apple didn't do the 3 month trial. It's all about taking risks.