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News: Pregnant Black Woman Attacked By Cop (Chest Cam Footage)
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Originally posted by Gabriel
I think you might be hard of reading, none of those quotes were things I said. It's okay though.
And I didn't defend the power of the police, I said she was wrongfully arrested.
I just said people shouldn't have such an attitude, no matter black or white.
It doesn't help in any situation, and if you are innocent, you will not be put in jail.
Changed my mind, I want to engage in debate.
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Did I quote you bitch? No.
It is the general idea you and people like you imply.
She had her rights, she did nothing wrong, she was wrongfully arrested and attacked. THATS ALL THAT NEEDS TO BE SAID.
And excuse me, but **** the "good" police. Too quick to bash police? WTF. They're out here bashing black lives because of the racist system they work for. Get the **** out of here with your uneducated, non-history knowing, racist ass.
And innocent people are put in jail ALL THE TIME. your argument is completely irrelevant.
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Originally posted by Cap10Planet
I would have just given my name to avoid conflict. She did say her name was Michelle, so I don't know what else he wanted after that.
And no, her refusing her name shouldn't have led to her getting snatched to the ground while pregnant. What logic?
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Right? It's not THAT hard to handcuff somebody while standing up.
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you dont want this debate, sweetie
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Originally posted by Gabriel
She was definitely wrongfully arrested, but everyone is so quick to bash police officers.
Don't resist cops, be cordial and nothing will happen if you are innocent!
This could have gone a whole different and non-violent way if she followed the aforementioned rules.
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Where, in the law does it state that you have to kiss ass because someone has a badge? She didn't have to show ID, she knew her rights & she did absolutely nothing wrong in the situation. The cop was a dick, plain and simple.
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Originally posted by Giliap
Did I quote you bitch? No.
It is the general idea you and people like you imply.
She had her rights, she did nothing wrong, she was wrongfully arrested and attacked. THATS ALL THAT NEEDS TO BE SAID.
And excuse me, but **** the "good" police. Too quick to bash police? WTF. They're out here bashing black lives because of the racist system they work for. Get the **** out of here with your uneducated, non-history knowing, racist ass.
And innocent people are put in jail ALL THE TIME. your argument is completely irrelevant.
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Yes you did quote me, hence the quotes and putting words in my mouth.
Anyway, I agree with you 100% the arrest and her attack.
And don't even begin with the racist throwing, very childish, just talk and debate.
There should be a harmony of police respecting all people, and people being non-agressive with the police. That's all I'm saying here.
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Originally posted by Bey_Rihstan
Where, in the law does it state that you have to kiss ass because someone has a badge? She didn't have to show ID, she knew her rights & she did absolutely nothing wrong in the situation. The cop was a dick, plain and simple.
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He was out of line, any way the law states you're protected from showing your ID if you are minding your own business, but this was a police call. Either way, it was strongly mishandled and the cop should be acted against.
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Originally posted by Giliap
Did I quote you bitch? No.
It is the general idea you and people like you imply.
She had her rights, she did nothing wrong, she was wrongfully arrested and attacked. THATS ALL THAT NEEDS TO BE SAID.
And excuse me, but **** the "good" police. Too quick to bash police? WTF. They're out here bashing black lives because of the racist system they work for. Get the **** out of here with your uneducated, non-history knowing, racist ass.
And innocent people are put in jail ALL THE TIME. your argument is completely irrelevant.
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Yep.
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Originally posted by Gabriel
And don't even begin with the racist throwing, very childish, just talk and debate.
There should be a harmony of police respecting all people, and people being non-agressive with the police. That's all I'm saying here.
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aw are you offended I called you racist?
where did she get aggressive with the police? nowhere. why do police deserve peace and harmony from anyone when they work for a brutal, racist system of bullies? And individuals that work in that system continue to show their ass. you can keep saying the same thing and im gonna keep getting disrespectful with the police because thats what they deserve, matter of fact you deserve it too.
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Originally posted by Gabriel
He was out of line, any way the law states you're protected from showing your ID if you are minding your own business, but this was a police call. Either way, it was strongly mishandled and the cop should be acted against.
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He didn't ask the White lady for ID tho
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They need to start giving these cops life in prison
All because she didn't give her name
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Originally posted by Giliap
aw are you offended I called you racist?
where did she get aggressive with the police? nowhere. why do police deserve peace and harmony from anyone when they work for a brutal, racist system of bullies? And individuals that work in that system continue to show their ass. you can keep saying the same thing and im gonna keep getting disrespectful with the police because thats what they deserve, matter of fact you deserve it too.
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No not really, you can call me what you want, you're behind a computer screen. I don't need our respect, nor want it. The whole police force is not a racist system of bullies, and you know that's a fact. Although some officers are inevitably racist, that is also a fact. Everyone deserves mutual respect, and if you can't agree with that then there's a fundamental issue with humanity.
And she never got aggressive, if you would read my posts, you would see that I'm agreeing with her unlawful arrest. Since the beginning I called the cop out on being wrong, look back. He pushed and attacked a pregnant woman, unforgivable.
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It's one thing to be racist... it's another to blindly bow down to, defend, justify and excuse racist police brutality/incompetence. There is always always always ALWAYS an excuse or argument defending them and it's sick.
YOU ARE FOOLS.
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Originally posted by Gabriel
No not really, you can call me what you want, you're behind a computer screen. I don't need our respect, nor want it. The whole police force is not a racist system of bullies, and you know that's a fact. Although some officers are inevitably racist, that is also a fact. Everyone deserves mutual respect, and if you can't agree with that then there's a fundamental issue with humanity.
And she never got aggressive, if you would read my posts, you would see that I'm agreeing with her unlawful arrest. Since the beginning I called the cop out on being wrong, look back.
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Then why are you in here saying no one should be aggressive towards police? Oh wait, I know why.. because you're grasping for straws to support your racism.
And no, it's the opposite. It is FACT that the law enforcement of America is racist. They have racist policies and department after department have been exposed for their racist policies and members. Did you not read up, hun? The Ferguson riots exposed A LOT of ****. They didn't let up and they got the FBI in there weeding out the racists.
And no not everyone deserves mutual respect. You don't deserve my respect, nor does any other racist. It's not going to happen. That is your white supremacist entitlement speaking.
The fundamental issue with humanity is RACISM. Don't turn it around on me you evil racist scum.
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Originally posted by Gabriel
No not really, you can call me what you want, you're behind a computer screen. I don't need our respect, nor want it. The whole police force is not a racist system of bullies, and you know that's a fact. Although some officers are inevitably racist, that is also a fact. Everyone deserves mutual respect, and if you can't agree with that then there's a fundamental issue with humanity.
And she never got aggressive, if you would read my posts, you would see that I'm agreeing with her unlawful arrest. Since the beginning I called the cop out on being wrong, look back. He pushed and attacked a pregnant woman, unforgivable.
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Don't try to argue. Even if you're as impartial as possible, you will immediately be deemed a ****ing racist by the members of liberATRL!
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Originally posted by Homebrand
You dont know that though
There is two sides of the story and im not about to get involved with who is right or wrong im just stating what i think.
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Who is the author of this second story, JK Rowling?
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Originally posted by Giliap
Then why are you in here saying no one should be aggressive towards police? Oh wait, I know why.. because you're grasping for straws to support your racism.
And no, it's the opposite. It is FACT that the law enforcement of America is racist. They have racist policies and department after department have been exposed for their racist policies and members. Did you not read up, hun? The Ferguson riots exposed A LOT of ****. They didn't let up and they got the FBI in there weeding out the racists.
And no not everyone deserves mutual respect. You don't deserve my respect, nor does any other racist. It's not going to happen. That is your white supremacist entitlement speaking.
The fundamental issue with humanity is RACISM. Don't turn it around on me you evil racist scum.
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Alrighty then.
This was fun, but it's going nowhere lol
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Originally posted by chilicheese01
Don't try to argue. Even if you're as impartial as possible, you will immediately be deemed a ****ing racist by the members of liberATRL!
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I mean, they are right in 99.9% of context, but I'm done now. I'm just saying everyone should be respectful to everyone lmao I keep forgetting that I'm not in an discussion environment, I'm on a music forum
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Originally posted by Vertigo Stick
Who is the author of this second story, JK Rowling?
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Fox News of course
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Originally posted by Homebrand
You dont know that though
There is two sides of the story and im not about to get involved with who is right or wrong im just stating what i think.
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Except that both sides of the story were already recounted on camera, and the cop personally admitted that there was no crime LONG before he even approached the pregnant woman. Tbh, the video should have ended after he finished getting the pregnant woman's side of the story, as there was no damage, no injury, and no cause for arrest.
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Originally posted by Anvarie
You guys are so lame I swear I type up paragraphs and you highlight a few words out of context and ignore everything I said
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Maybe because the simple fact that you keep insisting that she shouldn't have got an attitude and just followed Massa's orders shows that you are placing blame on her. There is NO blame that can be placed on her. Not even the tiniest, microscopic amount, as she had legally done absolutely nothing wrong. As long as you keep suggesting that she was wrong for "not complying" it completely invalidates your point. Besides, she actually was complying with his (legal) orders. She gave him her name. That's where the cop's legal ground ends in the state of California.
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Originally posted by Gabriel
She was definitely wrongfully arrested, but everyone is so quick to bash police officers.
Don't resist cops, be cordial and nothing will happen if you are innocent!
This could have gone a whole different and non-violent way if she followed the aforementioned rules.
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This has been proven false multiple times over the past couple years. Here is a database full of examples showing the bolded to be false, especially when black people are involved. Nice try though.
At the end of the day: COULD she have avoided complications by just giving her ID? Sure, maybe. Or not. There's just as many cases that say no, as there are that say yes. In fact, because she's black, it's more likely that it would have caused her long term problems by giving her identification (as some members have already explained in the form of a false write-up, job security, higher insurance rates, etc.). Regardless, why are we even questioning why she "didn't just comply with his illegal request and provide her identification?" instead of asking "why are these cops allowed to break the law and assault citizens and get away with it?"
Oh right, it's because she's black, and blacks are always at fault, even when they're not.
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Originally posted by Gabriel
I think you might be hard of reading, none of those quotes were things I said. It's okay though.
And I didn't defend the power of the police, I said she was wrongfully arrested.
I just said people shouldn't have such an attitude, no matter black or white.
It doesn't help in any situation, and if you are innocent, you will not be put in jail.
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Originally posted by Gabriel
She was definitely wrongfully arrested, but everyone is so quick to bash police officers.
Don't resist cops, be cordial and nothing will happen if you are innocent!
This could have gone a whole different and non-violent way if she followed the aforementioned rules.
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I understand what you're trying to say, but keep in mind the context here. It isn't like the cop pulled her over for speeding or running through a stop sign. She knew what it was about and didn't feel the need to dignify any of them by giving out her name. Maybe she should have given her name, but more importantly the cop should have followed the rules. There was no need for him to go to that extreme. It's as simple as that. There is no point in saying what she should have differently when the reality of the situation is that there is a cop out there who would assault a pregnant black woman for not giving out her name.
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