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Originally posted by qweenmiley
That's not mass invasions, they were literally settlers who were welcomed by the Natives. Before the European SETTLERS came there was no infrastructure or single culture or ethnic population for them to be considered a country. It was divided by various tribes (some who "liked" the Europeans and made treaties with them), it wasn't till later with the founded of the USA that those treaties were broken. You really have zero concept of history and basically going off by what your tumblr sjw liberal crowd told you.
Real liberals are actually libertarians/conservatives who believe in small government, liberty, freedom, etc. Look up classical liberalism before the switch. Modern liberals or leftist or neo-liberals, if you wish, are not "real liberals" and yes, you can be a conservative and for gay marriage do not confuse religious neo-cons and the conservative ideology together, they are not the same. Every person in the West are afforded the same rights, equal opportunity as each other so I guess liberalism is kind of pointless by your definition? The fact that we value equality and over our countries economy really says something about our society.
I don't care about diversity or multiculturalism because it has been shown many times not to work the only problem is the EU and our politicians keep forcing it on us, so idk why you continue to mention it to me.
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nothing you said regarding history contradicts what i said. first you said, natives were welcoming and then you admit that there were natives didn't. just because there were no infrastructure (not true of all the places europeans invaded btw) and no single culture or ethnicity doesn't mean forced "settlement" is acceptable. going by that logic, some place like tanzania or india is acceptable to just settle in today because of poor infrastructure and countless cultures and ethnic groups.
um... we're talking about modern day liberalism. we might have equal rights on paper, but it's not necessarily the reality. and yes, i know that you can be conservative and be pro-gay rights. conservatives are always liberal when its convenient for themselves. it's like how many hispanic in the US are staunch conservatives and then suddenly become liberal when the topic of hispanic immigration comes up. these people have NO credibility and neither do conservatives whining about immigration and then wanting us to be open minded when it comes to gay rights.
i'm not interested in pushing some diversity agenda, but immigrants are already here and often needed. more importantly, the west planted the seeds of the immigration trend through globalization so deal with what was started. you don't get to pick and choose the consequences.
and for the last time, the EU is not even actually diverse so just let that go already