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Discussion: Racism At It's Finest: Woman Loses it & Goes Off On Girl!
Member Since: 12/4/2010
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Originally posted by BudBud
i am no way trying to justify that lady - she was racist and thats clear ,
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A bit of a backtrack:
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Originally posted by BudBud
yes im serious, because when you are trying for someone and you are angry , you dont know anything about them so you pick out the superficial details > could be thier teeth, the way they are dressed > and sometimes its their race.
take it that the N word has loss some of its heavy weight thanks to mainstream media - she was angry , it was wrong (very wrong)
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Originally posted by BudBud
again we dont know the full story to make a decisive judgement about either one of them , and you can see the element of provocation from the one filming, where she got her response and kept antagonizing that lady - the connotation was clear when she used 'worldstar".
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Originally posted by BudBud
im studying law .
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You need to study history and sociology before you even think about attempting law, sis.
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Originally posted by Ichinaru19
We have already said that the girl behind the camera is also wrong for pushing for a response. This doesn't give the other lady the right to be be racist and go on a racist rant. As Doc said (I think) wrongs are not equal and its quite clear who is more in the wrong.
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and i completely agree but that is what contributory negligence is about , it means that they are no one is in the clear 100 range - that there is a shared burden
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I thought racism, according to Atrl, was the use of institutions etc to belittle and degrade a person. Hence why "cracker" can't be racist, and why white people can never be victims of racism
So how does being called a name a dozen times, though bad, fall under AtrLs definition of racism?
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by Doc
A bit of a backtrack:
You need to study history and sociology before you even think about attempting law, sis.
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how was that backtrack when i said she was wrong in both instances? i was merely looking at the situation
and i have studied it
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Originally posted by Doc
A bit of a backtrack:
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Originally posted by TikiMiss
I thought racism, according to Atrl, was the use of institutions etc to belittle and degrade a person. Hence why "cracker" can't be racist, and why white people can never be victims of racism
So how does being called a name a dozen times, though bad, fall under AtrLs definition of racism?
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Even you are a bit too ignorant and confused for this discussion.
You just need to go back to school, truth be told.
Ch
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Originally posted by Doc
Even you are a bit too ignorant and confused for this discussion.
You just need to go back to school, truth be told.
Ch
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Doesn't answer the question
The black powah community has been kind enough to point out that white people can't be victims of racism since getting yelled "I hate white people" or "white crackers" is not considered racism since it's not institutional.
What his lady did involved no institutional racism
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Originally posted by TikiMiss
I thought racism, according to Atrl, was the use of institutions etc to belittle and degrade a person. Hence why "cracker" can't be racist, and why white people can never be victims of racism
So how does being called a name a dozen times, though bad, fall under AtrLs definition of racism?
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Racism is broader than that. And those are selective members. I am not one to say that white people can't face individualized racism in the US because they definitely can. ANYWAYS this is off topic. Funny you bring it up though By bringing this up are you saying the woman is not being racist?
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Originally posted by BudBud
how was that backtrack when i said she was wrong in both instances? i was merely looking at the situation
and i have studied it
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You're justifying. All you've been saying is "She's wrong BUT sometimes you come after superficial details like race when you're angry. She's wrong BUT the N word has lost its meaning." Hell you even said "She's wrong BUT we don't know enough to make a definitive judgement on her."
Justification.
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Originally posted by Ichinaru19
Racism is broader than that. And those are selective members. I am not one to say that white people can't face individualized racism in the US because they definitely can. ANYWAYS this is off topic. Funny you bring it up though By bringing this up are you saying the woman is not being racist?
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I personally think its racist, just as I think a white guy being called a cracker is racist...but I've been told its wrong,
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Originally posted by TikiMiss
What his lady did involved no institutional racism
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Nnn there may be some members on the forum who believe what you said, but you're trying to downplay this racist white woman by what a few members of this forum said. This is racism. The fact you're trying to make it not racism is a bit worrisome.
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Originally posted by Doc
Oh child.
A black man walks down the street, and some random calls him a ******.
A black waiter accidentally spills coffee on a customer, and the customer calls him a ******.
A black man talks slick to someone, and he calls him a ******.
A black man punches someone in the face, and he calls him a ******.
A black man has sex with someone's girlfriend, and the boyfriend calls him a ******.
No matter what the situation is, a white person calling a black person a ******, especially out of anger, is a racist. There are no ifs, ands, or buts about it. YOU need the full story to say that the girl holding the camera is the one who started this. I don't need the full story to say that this woman saying "You're looking for a ****ing ****** fight, you ****** bitch!" in response to "Are you mad?" is a racist.
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but thats the thing , you said "out of anger" you know anger changes people , tons of people do what they would never have done in a calm mindset - physiologically when you are in anger, your actions become more irrational
yes i do need the full story to know who actually started this , we both do
and i know that lady is racist , but this whole time i have been trying to level (not balance cause its definitely not equal) the situation .
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Originally posted by BudBud
but thats the thing , you said "out of anger" you know anger changes people , tons of people do what they would never have done in a calm mindset - physiologically when you are in anger, your actions become more irrational
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Anger does not give the woman the right to become racist.
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This whole debate.
This woman is CLEARLY racist. End of story.
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Originally posted by Ichinaru19
Nnn there may be some members on the forum who believe what you said, but you're trying to downplay this racist white woman by what a few members of this forum said. This is racism. The fact you're trying to make it not racism is a bit worrisome.
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I'm merely using the same logic to apply to this situation.
If the lady were black, and the annoying girl were white, and she was calling the girl a cracker, you would read essays about how it isn't racism.
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Originally posted by HausOfGerard
This whole debate.
This woman is CLEARLY racist. End of story.
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I mean its not even that hard
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Originally posted by Doc
You're justifying. All you've been saying is "She's wrong BUT sometimes you come after superficial details like race when you're angry. She's wrong BUT the N word has lost its meaning." Hell you even said "She's wrong BUT we don't know enough to make a definitive judgement on her."
Justification.
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yeah she is wrong , i know that you know that (but the above examples are for the context of the situation) - im looking at the situation in a rational manner, if i was lawyer i would go against her , but you can see the other point of view right? (situation based)
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Member Since: 12/4/2010
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Originally posted by BudBud
but thats the thing , you said "out of anger" you know anger changes people , tons of people do what they would never have done in a calm mindset - physiologically when you are in anger, your actions become more irrational
yes i do need the full story to know who actually started this , we both do
and i know that lady is racist , but this whole time i have been trying to level (not balance cause its definitely not equal) the situation .
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The only thing anger can do is expose what's really in your head.
Anger does not make an honestly tolerant person into a racist
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Originally posted by BudBud
yeah she is wrong , i know that you know that (but the above examples are for the context of the situation) - im looking at the situation in a rational manner, if i was lawyer i would go against her , but you can see the other point of view right? (situation based)
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Aren't/Weren't you arguing that since the woman was baited, which resulted in her anger, that its okay she went on a racist rant or....?
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Originally posted by Ichinaru19
Anger does not give the woman the right to become racist.
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of course it doesnt give her the right or excuse , but in her mind it gives her a " reason"
when you analyze something you look at all parties in an impartial manner then you look at the situation n an impartial manner as a third party , as a 3rd person perspective she was angry ,and like i said you do irrational things when you are angry
however the bottom line is clear and i see that she is racist esp near the end where the comments went more harsh
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