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Discussion: Results Posted! l Michael Jackson Videography Rate
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Originally posted by KingKunta
So that means the top 10 is (in order of when they were released)
Billie Jean
Beat It
Thriller
The Way You Make Me Feel
Bad
Smooth Criminal (Sorry PrinceMichaelFan sis)
Leave Me Alone
Black or White
Remember The Time
Scream
Ghosts
I will be posting everyone's individual scores for the finale.
Also there is a tie in the top 10.
Stay tuned...
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The fact that no other act is even remotely close to this level of a Top 10. Michael Jackson is forever the greatest music film artist ever
EDIT: Mess at there being 11 songs on the Top 10
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Originally posted by KingKunta
So that means the top 10 is (in order of when they were released)
Smooth Crap (Sorry PrinceMichaelFan sis)
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Originally posted by Rusty
The fact that no other act is even remotely close to this level of a Top 10. Michael Jackson is forever the greatest music film artist ever
EDIT: Mess at there being 11 songs on the Top 10
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There's a tie between two of them.
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Finale is at 3:30 CST everyone!
Hold on to your wigs!
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Arguably the most underrated of the list and undeniably one of the most creative and mind provoking videos of all time...
10. Leave Me Alone
Average: 8.6
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The music video for "Leave Me Alone", was directed by Jim Blashfield, produced by Jim Blashfield and Paul Diener and released on January 2, 1989. The video was also featured in the 1988 film Moonwalker.[18] In essence, the video is an amusement park consisting of stylistically crude images based around Jackson's successful career since 1982's Thriller. There is an emphasis on the tabloid view of Jackson's personal life and public image, referring to the nickname "Wacko Jacko" given to him by the press, and the various headlines associated with him in the 1980s.[19] Lampooning rumours that he tried to purchase Joseph Merrick's bones, Jackson dances with stop motion "Elephant Man" bones in the video.[19] This particular segment (without the image of the bones) was used for the single's cover art, and the boneless video segment was featured in the Moonwalker trailer.
In the video, there are images of shrines to actress Elizabeth Taylor, a real life close friend of Jackson. Throughout the video newspaper headlines, published by "National Intruder", with bizarre titles are shown, such as "Michael's Space-Age Diet" and "Michael Proposes to Liz". Another notable scene in the music video was a nose being chased by a surgical scalpel, which was reference to Jackson's plastic surgery being criticized by the media. At the end of the video, it is revealed that a gigantic Jackson himself is the amusement park. He breaks free, tearing the park to pieces. That scene is a somewhat reminiscent of Gulliver's Travels, where Gulliver eventually breaks free from the Lilliputians' grasp from Lilliput
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PrinceMichaelFan
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This video remains one of the best videos in Pop Music history
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Humoresque
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n the extremely clever Leave Me Alone, Michael Jackson explores his celebrity from two main vantage points. One, as an amused spectator marveling at the surreal, dreamlike landscape; the other, as a literally larger-than-life figure expected to lie still while everyone else has a good time at his expense. But a third, less prominent vantage point has Michael dancing with his ball and chain alongside the Elephant Man's skeleton, turning oppression and gossip into active, welcome participants in the performance. Almost thirty years after its release, it stands as one of his finest short films.
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Rusty
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Michael's most technically stunning video, this Grammy winning masterpiece is perhaps his most poignant. It was revolutionary in its effects, and likely ludicrously expensive, and it was so unbelievably worth it. Michael never performed LMA live, but this video showcased to an amazing degree just how he felt during the apex of his career.
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Host Commentary
This is inarguably his best video without heavy chereography and honestly could make a case for his best video period. From the sheer madess, sadness, and almost humor he seems to poke at himself it's simply put one of the greatest music videos of all time and deserves to have the views of Thriller.
Scores
KingKunta: 10
asanders10795544: 10
Slw84: 10
PrinceMichaelfan: 10
Illuminated: 4.9
StonedSoulPicnic: 10
OffTheWall: 8
OpenBacardi: 10
Rusty: 10
Icarus: 3.5
Montrealxo: 8
The411: 8
TheWayWeWere: 8
Humoresque: 10
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Icarus, Illuminated, and the the people who scored a 8 are trash.
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The next spot goes to the most iconic song in the rate but the only one who's live performance just may be more iconic than the video itself...
9. Billie Jean
Average: 8.714
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The short film for "Billie Jean" is considered the video that brought MTV, until then a fairly new and unknown music channel, into mainstream attention. It was one of the first videos by a black artist to be aired regularly by the channel, as the network's executives felt black music wasn't "rock" enough.[37] Directed by Steve Barron, the video shows a photographer who follows Jackson. The paparazzo never catches the singer, and when photographed Jackson fails to materialize on the developed picture. The entertainer dances his way to Billie Jean's hotel room and as he walks along a sidewalk, each tile lights up at his touch.
white glove like Jackson had on during the performance of "Billie Jean" at Motown 25: Yesterday, Today, Forever.[39][40]
Walter Yetnikoff, the president of Jackson's record label CBS, approached MTV to play the "Billie Jean" video. He became enraged when MTV refused to play the video, and threatened to go public with MTV's stance on black musicians. "I said to MTV, 'I'm pulling everything we have off the air, all our product. I'm not going to give you any more videos. And I'm going to go public and ****ing tell them about the fact you don't want to play music by a black guy.'"[7] MTV relented and played the "Billie Jean" video in heavy rotation along with Prince's "Little Red Corvette".[7] After the video was aired, Thriller went on to sell an additional 10 million copies.[41] The short film was inducted into the Music Video Producers Hall of Fame in 1992.[31] In a 2005 poll of 31 pop stars, video directors, agents and journalists conducted by telecommunications company 3, the music video was ranked fifth in their "Top 20 Music Videos Ever".[42] The video was also ranked as the 35th greatest music video in a list compiled by MTV and TV Guide at the millennium
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PrinceMichaelFan
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This video deserved better, but the ID shots of Michael are the only great parts of this music video
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Rusty
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The crude-by-today's-standards effects and the mini-story were perfection for the era. It showed Michael as a real visual artist for the first time, and went on to establish the viability of a black artist as the biggest musician on the planet. Michael looked gorgeous, too.
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Host Commentary
Although brilliant for both its time and today, its undoubtably been overshadowed by both the other Thriller era videos, Beat It and Thriller, along with it's performance which may very well be the most known in modern music history. I think that its spot is well deserved though.
Scores
KingKunta: 6.5
asanders10795544: 8
Slw84: 10
PrinceMichaelfan: 7.5
Illuminated: 8.5
StonedSoulPicnic: 10
OffTheWall: 10
OpenBacardi: 10
Rusty: 8.5
Icarus: 8
Montrealxo: 10
The411: 10
TheWayWeWere: 6
Humoresque: 9
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The score for 3.5 for Leave Me Alone
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I don't think the Billie Jean scores are working.
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Leave me alone is amazing. But I get why it's low
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Billie Jean is boring.
Should have actually been out, and I understand why we got it a high score.
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I cant see the Billie Jean scores sis.
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Can't wait to see a certain person's score for Smooth Criminal
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Another underrated classic perhaps overshadowed by the other Halloween/horror themed video on this list, the longest music video of all time...
8. Ghosts Average: 8.928
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Michael Jackson's Ghosts is a 1996 short film starring Michael Jackson, co-written by horror novelist Stephen King and directed by film director and special effects guru Stan Winston which could also be classified as a long-form music video. It was filmed and first screened in 1996 and released along with select prints of the film Thinner. It was released as promo a year later internationally on LaserDisc, VHS and Video CD. Jackson plays a total of five roles in the film.
The film tells the story of a scary Maestro with supernatural powers, who is being forced out of a small town by its mayor all the way to New York, pictured as a comically arrogant, plump man. The movie includes a series of dance routines performed by Michael Jackson and his "family" of ghouls. Every song from the film was taken from Michael Jackson's albums HIStory: Past, Present and Future, Book I and Blood on the Dance Floor: HIStory in the Mix.
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PrinceMichaelFan
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The choreography has me so shocked
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Rusty
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The definition of underrated. Ghosts is the most expensive music video of all time. Scream "officially" holds that title, but in reality, Ghosts costs about $15M and six weeks to make. It is the most film-like music video ever - it feels like a Disney-fronted feature than a simple music film, and it deserves so much more recognition than it got. Michael goes from himself, to the man who tried to destroy his life (DA Tom Sneddon), to a skeleton and back again, all while jamming to 2 Bad and Ghosts. It was Michael Jackson's last truly great music film, and its effects were so forward-pushing, it holds up remarkably well today still. It defines over ambition and limitless power. Seriously, if you haven't already, watch this. You'll be glad you did. It's the Moonwalker of the 1990s.
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Another underrated classic that is overlooked for another of Michael's similar videos. Whether it is better than that other video is debatable but it most definately stands in its on right as a masterpiece.
Scores
KingKunta
asanders10795544: 10
Slw84: 8
PrinceMichaelfan: 10
Illuminated: 10
StonedSoulPicnic: 8
OffTheWall: 5
OpenBacardi: 10
Rusty: 10
Icarus: 10
Montrealxo: 8
The411: 9
TheWayWeWere: 9.5
Humoresque: 7.5
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SIS, I CANNOT SEE THE SCORES
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I never liked the Leave Me Alone, wanted to give it a 5, but I remember having the same score for some other video that I liked so I lowered it to the 4.9.
Billie Jean and Ghosts are very good, but Ghost is better anyway.
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Ghosts should be just a little higher tbh
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I can't see the scores
The Billie Jean video is a masterpiece
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Originally posted by PrinceMichaelFan
Icarus, Illuminated, and the the people who scored a 8 are trash.
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They Don't Care About Us deserved top10 instead of... that.
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Ghost is truly amazing. I don't know why it's not more known! The choreography, Michael, please
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