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Celeb News: Emma watson on Beyonce's sexuality and feminism
Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by PrettyHurts
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you think if girl (teen) make herself to look like Beyonce - she is feminist?
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Originally posted by Bey'Knight
Exactly!!
N i love how she has a song like Jealous on the album as well. I thinn some (ignorant) people have this unrealistic tunnel vision idea of a feminist is. Female feminists are still .... HUMAN. They have access to full range of emotions that all humans do and guess what sometimes a b*tch gets jealous lol. U see ppl trying to use Bow Down against her as well as if women were borne to be repressed.
Im glad Beyonce is in a place her career where she's confident enough to put tracks like jealous, mine, bow down on her albums. Compared to 4 where the protagonist isnt necessarily the "bad guy" in any of the scenarios. Now that the perfection image has been shed, she's become intriguing as an artist.
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The messages of BEYONCÉ are extremely powerful.
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individualist
someone not trying to be anything but himself, ussually bothers people who are sheep.
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Originally posted by QueenBeyoncé
!!!! Very proud of her. I'm so loving these post from the HIVE! When have you heard this much talk all over the web, news etc about feminism until Beyonce. That's the silver lining in this.
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It really is. When I first heard "***Flawless," I did not know how the public would respond to such a large public and powerful figure as Beyonce including a minute long feminist speech in her song, and essentially, making it the focal point of the album.
But, we all know, that it sparked great conversation and more admirable respect for Beyonce.
I am just proud to be a stan, and regardless of what anyone thinks, I am just glad that she is using her celebrity to continue her stance on female empowerment from "Independent Women," to "Single Ladies" to "Run The World (Girls)," to "Flawless" & her stance on feminism.
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of course Emma knows the tea and knows how to clock
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Originally posted by rebel
you think if girl (teen) make herself to look like Beyonce - she is feminist?
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OMG, well if she WANTS to then she is.
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Originally posted by Ascension
But why can't a woman want to be appealing to a man and still be taken seriously as a social equal?
I honestly don't think people realize what they're even saying when they question the belief of women that don't fit into a certain category because they admit or behave in ways that indicate that they want to be appealing to their significant others/the opposite sex. Being considered beautiful, sexy, appealing to the opposite sex isn't objectification; it becomes objectification when that is ALL that the woman is and can be seen as. Which ironically is exactly what one is implying when they begin on this whole, "well if you are doing things that appeal to men, you can't possibly believe in the social equality of women" slippery slope.
This is basically saying that a woman can only behave a certain way or dress a certain way to be taken seriously as a person that believes in a woman's social equality. The belief that women have to fit in certain stereotypical roles and behave and dress in certain ways to be heard and taken seriously is problematic. The burden is not on Beyonce or any other woman to dress in burlap sacks to "reverse stereotypes" -- that's not the point of feminism, but feminism has always been warped into this twisted thing of dress a certain way and you'll be taken seriously, speak a certain way and you'll be taken seriously which is entirely antithetical to what feminists actually fight for. Like I said, indoctrination can be difficult to let go of -- even when you know better. And Emma clearly knows better.
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I think the misconception is that some people approach feminism like it's a personality trait. I liken to people who presume every gay man is campy. The only thing every feminist should have in common is their belief in fundamental equality for the sexes thus a popstar and a political activist can both be feminists without the popstar being compelled to surpress her sexuality.
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Originally posted by simon
It really is. When I first heard "***Flawless," I did not know how the public would respond to such a large public and powerful figure as Beyonce including a minute long feminist speech in her song, and essentially, making it the focal point of the album.
But, we all know, that it sparked great conversation and more admirable respect for Beyonce.
I am just proud to be a stan, and regardless of what anyone thinks, I am just glad that she is using her celebrity to continue her stance on female empowerment from "Independent Women," to "Single Ladies" to "Run The World (Girls)," to "Flawless" & her stance on feminism.
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omg Beyoncé doesn't empower, Beyoncé is Empowerment
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Originally posted by rebel
individualist
someone not trying to be anything but himself, ussually bothers people who are sheep.
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WTF are YOU talking about though?
And to chime in, I would love for some of the people who just jump in with a simple "no lies spotted" to further explain their stance on why a woman can't fight for gender equality while being proud of her body, sexiness, and showcasing the love she has for a husband.
It's always the people who know nothing at all that do the most talking.
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Originally posted by simon
It really is. When I first heard "***Flawless," I did not know how the public would respond to such a large public and powerful figure as Beyonce including a minute long feminist speech in her song, and essentially, making it the focal point of the album.
But, we all know, that it sparked great conversation and more admirable respect for Beyonce.
I am just proud to be a stan, and regardless of what anyone thinks, I am just glad that she is using her celebrity to continue her stance on female empowerment from "Independent Women," to "Single Ladies" to "Run The World (Girls)," to "Flawless" & her stance on feminism.
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"I woke up like this" is such a powerful statement. It even goes beyond feminism and speaks to humanity in general. You in your rawest and realest moment (when you first wake up), no matter what you look like, is simply flawless because you as a person is flawless.
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the hive pressed as usual and trying to prove they and beyonce are right and the rest of the world are wrong, the new little monster indeed
Everyone can have their own opinion guys chill out.
And talking about the OP I think every women is different and every one of them can have their own opinion about what is feminism
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Originally posted by 22 Two's
omg Beyoncé doesn't empower, Beyoncé is Empowerment
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She truly is empowerment. That is why her name is synonymous with being fierce & perfection.
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Originally posted by AHemsworth
WTF are YOU talking about though?
And to chime in, I would love for some of the people who just jump in with a simple "no lies spotted" to further explain their stance on why a woman can't fight for gender equality while being proud of her body, sexiness, and showcasing the love she has for a husband.
It's always the people who know nothing at all that do the most talking.
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I don't care....
Beyonce is feminist ..... so what?
individualist= men
feminism=every woman desperately need to be like someone else to feel empowerment (fierce & perfection)
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fffffffffffff its true Emmas speech wasn't anything special but DEATH at the hive thinking Bey is so much more of a feminist when all shes done is use the moniker as a money maker
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Originally posted by Goombario
the hive pressed as usual and trying to prove they and beyonce are right and the rest of the world are wrong, the new little monster indeed
Everyone can have their own opinion guys chill out.
And talking about the OP I think every women is different and every one of them can have their own opinion about what is feminism
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i dont see any hive being "pressed" in this thread. people are having a discussion about feminism and everyone of course has an opinion, including the hive.
the ones that are pressed are the ones who add nothing to the discussion other than "no lies spotted " they're also the ones who will agree with ANY negative Bey criticism, no matter who its from.
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Originally posted by Goombario
the hive pressed as usual and trying to prove they and beyonce are right and the rest of the world are wrong, the new little monster indeed
Everyone can have their own opinion guys chill out.
And talking about the OP I think every women is different and every one of them can have their own opinion about what is feminism
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Again, another user who's just replying with "the pressed Hive...".
This isn't about Beyoncé, exclusively. It's a discussion about Emma misjudging women who are both feminists and sexual, so please don't try to start a stan-fight just because you don't have anything to add to this discussion and making posts like these that are completely pointless. The only pressed soul right now is you.
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Feminism doesn't have to be so complicated.
Feminism is about equality. Its basic premise is that gender shouldn't be a source of persecution or a restriction of your choices. It means the type of person a woman wants to be should be based on what SHE values, not what outside forces (like patriarchy or other 'feminist') pressure her to value because of her gender or biological sex.
So if Beyonce wants to slide down a pole just a biT because she finds the art of burlesque captivating, who's anyone to say she can't because it may excite some men? Like... do ya'll not see the contradiction in that.
So a woman should aim to be sexually liberated, but not TOO sexually liberated, otherwise she's threatening the man?
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Member Since: 11/22/2010
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Originally posted by Iman
i dont see any hive being "pressed" in this thread. people are having a discussion about feminism and everyone of course has an opinion, including the hive.
the ones that are pressed are the ones who add nothing to the discussion other than "no lies spotted " they're also the ones who will agree with ANY negative Bey criticism, no matter who its from.
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Lol. We're like twins or something.
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Originally posted by Dollas n Diamonds
fffffffffffff its true Emmas speech wasn't anything special but DEATH at the hive thinking Bey is so much more of a feminist when all shes done is use the moniker as a money maker
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This policy should be applied to all celebrity feminist. But I fail to see how using something so dividing in nature would be thought to cause profit for anyone. Care to explain your stance on this?
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Originally posted by Dollas n Diamonds
fffffffffffff its true Emmas speech wasn't anything special but DEATH at the hive thinking Bey is so much more of a feminist when all shes done is use the moniker as a money maker
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If that all she's done with it then care to explain her
-opening a cosmetology centre for women
- donating her entire pay cheque to a drug rehab facility
- curating a fundraiser (successful) concert for chime for change
Bey doesnt just sing about it, she puts her money where her mouth is!!
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