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Poll: Has Madonna's GMAYL Flopped?
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View Poll Results: Has GMAYL flopped?
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Yes.
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234 |
71.78% |
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No it did well.
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25 |
7.67% |
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Too soon to tell, there is still hope.
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Member Since: 2/16/2010
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GMAYL & Judas are both underperformances. GMAYL's #10 position, being a brand new with a video & Super Bowl performance, is decent I guess. Same with Judas, but I believe Judas got killed off by TEoG but anyway that's for another time.
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Originally posted by inspiration4
Context is key. #10 on the billboard charts for a hugely hyped first single performed on America's most watched Television broadcast, and it' video debuted on American Idol is not something to be proud of in an age where songs easily debut in the top 5 with no promotion at all, and still peak higher.
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How many people over 40 (or even 30) are doing that?
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Originally posted by Entalan
I agree. I think she could have easily have gotten away with better stuff like Frozen or Vogue on her new album, and it bothers me that she's been so focused on creating mainstream stuff lately. I'm not very familiar with most of Madonna's discography, but from what I can discern, she hasn't really tried to make quality music like her earlier work since American Life, and even that's debatable.
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Oh NOW we are going to get into it.
In the past decade alone, Madonna has the biggest dance song of the decade with Music, one of the best performing single of all time in Hung Up, a critically acclaimed album with Confessions on a Dance Floor, a high performing urban single with 4 Minutes, all the while changing her image and taking (badly paid) risks with albums like American Life. In her 3rd decade of making pop music, she has done more than 95% of the rest of the industry. She has certainly strayed in ways and has made mistakes in dating herself by going too young...but accomplished and quality are understatements for what Madonna produces.
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Member Since: 12/13/2010
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Originally posted by Sahn
How many people over 40 (or even 30) are doing that?
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Well, Madonna's name alone should make the song debut at the top 5 
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Member Since: 11/21/2010
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Originally posted by RedDlicious
AGREED. Judas didn't follow up the massive success of Born This Way so it felt like a flop, but it was still successful. People's expectations can be odd.
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THIS 
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Originally posted by Sahn
How many people over 40 (or even 30) are doing that?
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Madonna may be older than her pop peers, but I don't subscribe to the mindset that because of that fact she should be held to different standards, especially because had she released (& when she releases) a truly worthy hit I'm confident it will smash.
I think this new digital era benefits her a lot as people will buy any song they like. That + the fact that she's Madonna will propel a truly worthy single to a higher chart position than any from her past few albums.
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Originally posted by UAE
Well, Madonna's name alone should make the song debut at the top 5 |
The song sucks!!!!
Even if it was sang by GOD it would not make the top 5!!!!!!
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Originally posted by inspiration4
And JUDAS was a ****ing flop too for anyone saying it wasn't. Dismal debut, and absolutly ZERO longevity.  |
No, "Judas" wasn't a flop. It was an underperforming single.
Judas, peak: #10, sales: 870,000
Marry The Night, peak: #29, sales: 500,000
They're not in the same category.
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Originally posted by RedDlicious
Oh NOW we are going to get into it.
In the past decade alone, Madonna has the biggest dance song of the decade with Music, one of the best performing single of all time in Hung Up, a critically acclaimed album with Confessions on a Dance Floor, a high performing urban single with 4 Minutes, all the while changing her image and taking (badly paid) risks with albums like American Life. In her 3rd decade of making pop music, she has done more than 95% of the rest of the industry. She has certainly strayed in ways and has made mistakes in dating herself by going too young...but accomplished and quality are understatements for what Madonna produces.
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I just listened to Hung Up, and it's enough for me. I stand corrected.
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Originally posted by UAE
Well, Madonna's name alone should make the song debut at the top 5 |
Not in the US. We all know the story.
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Originally posted by Sahn
How many people over 40 (or even 30) are doing that?
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Sahn, honestly it is not Madonna's fault
It is not her age
It is the song
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Originally posted by UAE
Well, Madonna's name alone should make the song debut at the top 5 |
Which other artists (alive) whose careers started in the 80's are still having hits? name 1.
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BILLBOARD: Madonna Scores Record-Extending 38th Hot 100 Top 10
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Edit:  @ ya'll getting happy Bcuz it went top 10 ..
This is MADONNA we are talking people. and GMAYL is her COMEBACK and LEAD SINGLE. +
She performed it at the Super Bowl and added M.I.A And Nicki into the formula + she released the video the same day as the single on AMERICAN IDOL.... And yet she struggled to go top 10. Obvious signs of a flop alert. 
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Member Since: 6/17/2011
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Originally posted by Beatz
That doesn't change the fact it still hit the top 10, A FLOP is "Marry The Night". This is an underperforming single. Please learn your facts.
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Please learn some logic. Here you are comparing a 5th single, to the lead single off one of the years most anticipated albums, and performed in front of 100+ million.
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Member Since: 2/2/2012
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Originally posted by Sahn
Not in the US. We all know the story. |
Dont underestimate her
I think that if she made this awful song go top 10 at 53
With a good song she can definitely get a #1
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"Flop" is not the most fitting term. But I think we have to look at this relative to the amount of promotion that went into it. When you consider everything that was lined up for this song, it really underperformed.
So many different things were put into place to prop up this less than stellar song.
Imagine how she could have performed if she actually released a great song. I think a #1 could have been obtained if the first single would have been better.
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Originally posted by Swag
Sahn, honestly it is not Madonna's fault
It is not her age
It is the song
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Thank you! The song would be terrible IMO regardless if it was a 15 year old or 50 year old singing it.
I hope she worked with Timbaland again on MDNA... Guetta will also suffice. 
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Tbh, i love Madonna and her work but i despise this song, and it just bothers me how some Madonna stans now are playin the "it's not her prime what were you expecting, at least she's doing stadiums" card, when the reality is, that the majority of you hypocrite basic hoes were saying GMAYL was a number one hit for sure after the super bowl, and Gaga would be the elthon john at the golden globes and she needed to sit down and all kinds of stupid stuff.
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Member Since: 11/11/2010
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Originally posted by Sahn
Not in the US. We all know the story. |
Right. People forget that not only has she been going for 30 years...but she has been controversial for the large majority of that time. Even in her prime nothing was a guarantee. She has never been a universal sales monster...she is an innovative entertainer. Perhaps GMAYL isn't groundbreaking, but having it still in the Top 30 2 weeks later and in the Top 10 on Billboard is a success for her at this stage.
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