[jomarr]

Originally posted by I Am Music

Right, I think it's easier for single households to do this. I mean families who are on a tight budget who try to find the best deals in healthy foods.

I agree that sodas should be on a tight constraint but companies here in the US price them so low it looks appealing. Unfortunately this country doesn't do enough to encourage healthy eating.

It would be pointless to go out and jog when all you're buying is stuff that will make you gain weight. Especially if you're not educated on calorie,sodium and sugar intake.

I completely agree with what you said. Of course it takes the balance of the right diet and exercise to stay healthy.

Yep, soda is REALLY cheap like I don't get it either. I am a soda freak to be freaking honest. I love Coca Cola and believe me, every single night we have a bottle of 2L Coke in our fridge but I learned to not drink too much. My dad loves it. I told him to control his sugar intake but he really wont listen so I just let him but I get really pissed off and I swear to god the next time he goes for medical check up I will drag him in front of his doctor for disobedience. Can't take it anymore. He's Mid-50s and big bellied. He bought a stationary bike which he doesn't use or if he does he uses it for a minute. LITERALLY a minute.

Hard headed people like my dad are hard to deal with but reminding them of what's going to happen next yet they don't listen is a very tiring job. But he's family so I wont stop.

[I Am Music]

Originally posted by jomarr

I completely agree with what you said. Of course it takes the balance of the right diet and exercise to stay healthy.

Yep, soda is REALLY cheap like I don't get it either. I am a soda freak to be freaking honest. I love Coca Cola and believe me, every single night we have a bottle of 2L Coke in our fridge but I learned to not drink too much. My dad loves it. I told him to control his sugar intake but he really wont listen so I just let him but I get really pissed off and I swear to god the next time he goes for medical check up I will drag him in front of his doctor for disobedience. Can't take it anymore. He's Mid-50s and big bellied. He bought a stationary bike which he doesn't use or if he does he uses it for a minute. LITERALLY a minute.

Hard headed people like my dad are hard to deal with but reminding them of what's going to happen next yet they don't listen is a very tiring job. But he's family so I wont stop.

You're doing the right thing, keep pressing on to get him to stop. Dark sodas are the worst offenders in terms of weight gain. If people are going to drink sodas then something like Sprite or Sparking water will do the job and is less fattening.

[moijejoue]

We shouldn't fat-shame them (something I've been guilty of) but instead we should promote healthy eating and a more active lifestyle. Alot of people claim that it isn't our business but it sort of is in a way. When an obese or overweight person is admitted to the hospital because of complications due to thier lifestyle, the health care system pays for it. And where do that money come from? Citizens pockets.

[JessPop]

Originally posted by Wafflinson

Oh well. The facts don't agree with you.

Keep parading your anecdotal fat hating evidence in the face of my facts and studies.


From the number of supportive wall posts and pm's I have received during this debate I am confident that I made my case.

Oh "the facts" as in the two people you have that commented on your wall as you called me a 'bitch' for having and standing by my opinion? You're a sad person that can't have a debate without getting in your feelings and insulting other people after they expose your information as the banal and incorrect drivel that it is.

[I Am Music]

Originally posted by moijejoue

We shouldn't fat-shame them (something I've been guilty of) but instead we should promote healthy eating and a more active lifestyle. Alot of people claim that it isn't our business but it sort of is in a way. When an obese or overweight person is admitted to the hospital because of complications due to thier lifestyle, the health care system pays for it. And where do that money come from? Citizens pockets.

A lot of things come out of the citizens pockets. I wont get on overweight people because the system set things up that way. I do agree that there is a way on how you handle things and going up to some random stranger doesn't look good on your part.

I do think that we need to encourage healthy eating for everyone because skinny doesn't necessarily mean healthy either.

[moijejoue]

Originally posted by I Am Music

A lot of things come out of the citizens pockets. I wont get on overweight people because the system set things up that way. I do agree that there is a way on how you handle things and going up to some random stranger doesn't look good on your part.

I do think that we need to encourage healthy eating for everyone because skinny doesn't necessarily mean healthy either.

You are right that alot of things come out of citizens pockets but why pay more for an epidemic that can be fixed and avoided?

I agree with everything else you mentioed btw.

[I Am Music]

Originally posted by moijejoue

You are right that alot of things come out of citizens pockets but why pay more for an epidemic that can be fixed and avoided?

I agree with everything else you mentioed btw.

I totally see your point of view and agree with it but it starts with the government doing more.
People need be more aware of healthy eating and should gain access to them.

Sodas should cost more than healthier alternatives not the other way around. There needs to be some form of pricing reform when it comes to healthier products.

A way that farmers can make a profit and citizens can live more healthier lives.

[Sinvius]

It depends on how obese the person actually is.

You can be pretty fat without actually endangering your health A LOT so it would seem counterproductive to fat shame a person using that excuse.

However, the point stands that being obese and extremely overweight does raise a lot of complications regarding health.

[moijejoue]

Originally posted by I Am Music

I totally see your point of view and agree with it but it starts with the government doing more.
People need be more aware of healthy eating and should gain access to them.

Sodas should cost more than healthier alternatives not the other way around. There needs to be some form of pricing reform when it comes to healthier products.

A way that farmers can make a profit and citizens can live more healthier lives.

Oh, I see. Totally agree with this.

[M!X]

Shaming in any way shape or form is wrong imo.

But also sometimes (of course if you care about the person) you should tell them something they don't want to hear. But only if you actually have good intentions and want to help them.

Calling someone fat just so you can insult them and lower their self esteem is horrible and simply wrong.

[Nait Phoenix]

I'd say it's wrong if you are legitimately telling the person what they need to do with their bodies. I do understand if you are doing it out of good nature, but it would be better to ask them instead of being unnecessarily blunt about it.

[PoisonPill]

Fat shaming isn't appropriate. However obesity is one of the single largest strains on our healthcare system - raising premiums and costs for the rest of us. People who are willfully unhealthy and obese are putting an unfair burden on the rest of us and the entire system.

[Kamil24]

Originally posted by Wafflinson

People who think they are going to exercise the weight away without diet are destined for failure.

I always saw it as the other way around I see all the time people dieting without proper exercise and they don't lose any weight, and I see others that don't change their diet at all, start exercising, and lose lots of weight.

[Doogle]

If they're just fat I'd leave them to it but if they're one of those annoying overweight women who are like "I'm doing this for all the big girls out there!" who make a personality out of it and revel in the fact they're fat then I'd say something.

[Kamil24]

Originally posted by maiko

I mean, what is this:

Aquafina is nasty, would anyone ever buy it for that price?

[BreatheGaga]

Coca cola is so cheap in the US
In Norway one bottle costs $6

[ItsJim]

Originally posted by BreatheGaga

Coca cola is so cheap in the US
In Norway one bottle costs $6

your wages are high as **** tho.

[Goosey]

Originally posted by BreatheGaga

Coca cola is so cheap in the US
In Norway one bottle costs $6

"Norway has an excise on refined sugar products, including soft drinks, set to 7.05 kroner per kilogram"

"Please be aware that shipping soda from Norway is quite expensive. Because of shipping costs, it is recommended that the minimum order is 5 bottles."

"The most expensive McDonald's in the world? In Norway, you'll pay $23 for a single meal of Big Mac, soda and fries"

[Kamil24]

Originally posted by jomarr

I don't know about the US (or whatever country you live in) but with the money I spend on a Big Mac, I can buy 1 KG of Chicken Breast. That's like 10 pieces of skinless chicken breast. Very easy to cook.

Vegetables aren't also expensive. I prefer on making my meals than buying them outside. Time is a major constraint but if you're picking up a Big Mac or a Whopper for dinner, might as well just grill skinless chicken and stir up some mixed veggies then partner it with whole grain bread or rice. All of them are very easy to cook. Although during Lunch I have no choice but to buy food outside. I make my breakfast and dinner. During breakfast I usually eat eggs, milk and oats or whole cereal and a fruit.

Save the extravagant cooking for the weekends. Stop the soda. I also don't know if it's safe to drink tap water in your country but in ours it's totally safe and I doubt that bottled water is the median price for a bottled water in the US. AquaFina has always been expensive along with Evian that costs 50 PHP (1.40 USD) in my country. Bottled water usually costs around 5-20 PHP (.14-.40 cents) here.

If you make an effort, you actually can. Exercise? Gym is expensive. You can jog for thirty minutes a day and it wont cost you a single dime.

This post!

Yes fast food is pretty cheap on it's own, but going to an actual grocery store, you can buy so much more for that same price! Yeah, a bottle of water from a vending machine may cost $2.00, but you can buy a whole case of water bottles that come out to $0.10 each. Fast food is just the easier option because you don't have to walk around a grocery store, nor do you have to make it yourself, giving the excuse that it is "cheap", even though it's more expensive than buying your own things.

[BreatheGaga]

Originally posted by ItsJim

your wages are high as **** tho.

I know, I even get about $13,000-$14,000 a year from the government just so that I can attend school which is pretty ****ed
If the government paid out all the money to every person who lives in Norway then everyone would be a millionaire