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Originally posted by atishvaze
I think Speak Now was able to produce hit singles atleast on country format especially during later half of SN era which Red was unable to produce to support album sales and so Speak Now consistently outsold Red in the later half of both era. I think this is the reason probably Red will never outsell Speak Now even in the long run
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Its a little sad because WANEGBT and IKYWT were bigger hit than anything on SN sales wise but that just goes to show that country does indeed sell more than pop.
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Off-topic: Jake Gyllenhaal splits from his girlfiriend Alyssa Miller 
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Ima need a Lord/Meryl pic this Sunday 
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Prism was discounted on iTunes and Amazon, that's why it holds up well. Scotty doesn't wanna ship no more copies of Red, nor discounts it on iTunes. Seems like no one wants to pay $14.99 for a digital copy of the standard version. 
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On an obvious, commercial level, it makes perfect sense for Taylor Swift to record end-credits for teen-targeted films. In 2012 she teamed up with T Bone Burnett and the Civil Wars for “The Hunger Games’” signature tune “Safe and Sound.” It helped lift the pic’s soundtrack to No. 10 on the Billboard chart, nabbing a Golden Globe nomination and a Grammy in the process.
Late last year she partnered with Fun guitarist Jack Antonoff to pen and perform “Sweeter Than Fiction” from the Weinstein Co.’s “One Chance,” for which she’ll once again be competing for best original song at the Golden Globes.
Yet on a less obvious, artistic level, it doesn’t make much sense at all. Writing for characters, and fitting her style into the tenor of an existing film, isn’t consistent with Swift’s m.o., which favors an inward-looking songwriting process that tends to attract such adjectives as confessional, intimate, purgative ….
“Also ‘diaristic,’” Swift interjects. “That’s a popular one.”
Diaristic though she may be, Swift does not actually write from a diary.
The closest she comes is the array of notes on her cell phone, filled with “phrases I thought of that would be better if you twisted it around in some way, phrases that rhyme really well with this other phrase that you could twist to make a sort of off-rhyme … I’m always making notes.” So marrying these stray observations with a more distanced perspective is hardly incompatible with her method.
“It’s almost a relief to turn the microscope around and not have to be so introspective, and draw directly from your life,” she says. “When I see a story play out and see all the different themes, one of them will always jump out at me. Like, with ‘Hunger Games’ there were so many different themes to draw from, and the one we drew from was ‘empathy.’”
For “One Chance,” inspired by the story of Paul Potts, a warehouse manager and amateur opera singer who won the first season of “Britain’s Got Talent,” Swift drew upon the outsider perspective that, for all her popularity, has long been a constant theme of her music.
“He’s a struggling opera singer, and no one gets it,” she says. “Which I related to a little bit growing up (in Pennsylvania) being so obsessed with country music — in my school, everyone was a little bit perplexed.”
Though it often gets lost in the swirl of celebrity and stagecraft that surrounds her, Swift has always been a songwriter first and foremost — she was, after all, the youngest tunesmith ever signed by Sony/ATV publishing. But adapting the wide-eyed yet subtly cynical teenage songwriting perspective on which she staked her early fame into a more mature, adult outlook is still a work in progress, and one that Swift seems to approach in an analytical way.
“Jody Rosen did a profile of me recently where he called (my songwriting) both purple and precise; a mixture of some very purple lines and some very precise details. I thought that was very astute,” she says. “I know I obsess over the different facets that people have to their personalities if you pick them apart.I’m obsessed by the idea that in real life there’s no such thing as a bad guy or a good guy. So thinking in character or writing from the perspective of a character, it’s really like picking one version of who I am.
“When I’m writing my own stuff, it’s about picking the specific corner that I want to view the world from. But for a character, it’s lucky when you have a really good performance. (Watching ‘One Chance’) I could see a song playing out as I saw the facial expressions, it was easy.”
This year will also see Swift take an onscreen role in another Weinstein production, Phillip Noyce’s adaptation of dystopian young adult novel “The Giver,” in which she plays the doomed “receiver” Rosemary. Yet these forays into film will likely be but footnotes to the yet-untitled and unscheduled fifth album she’s just beginning to sketch out.
While Swift composed the whole of her third album, “Speak Now,” alone, her latest, “Red,” saw some of its biggest successes arise from her songwriting partnerships with the likes of Ed Sheeran, Gary Lightbody, Dan Wilson and, most lucratively, Max Martin and Shellback. Her fifth will again see her work with the latter two, and the value of collaboration comes up several times in conversation with the singer.
“My favorite people to work with are the bluntest,” Swift says, “the ones who will say no. It’s important to have someone say, ‘That’s not good enough, go write a better pre-chorus,’ so I can go back to the drawing board. I don’t want people thinking if they’re too hard they won’t get to write with me again, when in fact it’s the contrary.”
Martin is perhaps the most commercially consistent hitmaker of the past few decades, and in Swift’s renewed partnership with him, it’s possible to infer the kinds of pressures the 24-year-old must be under to churn out another smash LP on par with her previous four. To date, even Swift’s lowest-selling album has been certified quadruple platinum, and her current 79-date world tour has already grossed $115 million.
“I have lot of goals, and one of them is to know when to stop,” she says. “I love the sound of applause but I don’t want to become addicted to it in order to feel whole. It’s the creative part of music-making that I could never live without.
“Hopefully in your life you make graceful decisions, dignified career choices. There are lots of different directions to go in, and I’m not anywhere close to being out of ideas here. But as I grow older, I hope I can continue to rely on gut feelings and continue to be self-aware. Self-awareness is usually the first thing to go when people lose touch. So ideally I can keep my wits about me.”
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What was the Jody Rosen profile? 
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Off-topic: Jake Gyllenhaal splits from his girlfiriend Alyssa Miller |
He heard "SacRed" and realized his mistake. Watch him go after her again. 
"RED" and "Speak Now" have sold about the same WW. So bible nr4 will end up as her second bestselling WW albern soon. 
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Originally posted by muddysquirrel
He heard "SacRed" and realized his mistake. Watch him go after her again.
"RED" and "Speak Now" have sold about the same WW. So bible nr4 will end up as her second bestselling WW albern soon. |
Watch her take him back and then say something like, "for me, umm.. I've realized that you won't be the same person you were 6 months ago.. And with that comes giving people another chance because they've had time to grow as well."
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Does anyone know about how much each of her albums have sold outside the US?
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I think some people are forgetting that Speak Now had sold about the same as Red has at this point in it's release cycle. Red has also done massively better than Speak Now in International markets and in album track sales too.
Don't forget the album market shrinks every year, latest figures are that album sales are down 8.4% from the year before in the US. We still have the Grammy boost to come for Red, which will be significant if she wins anything and will still occur anyway due to a Grammy performance.
Big Machine are not bothered about whether Red overtakes Speak Now in US sales, if they were they would just discount Red from the premium price of $14.99 on iTunes.
Speak Now is the 3rd bestselling album in the US this decade and Red is currently the 5th already. Red is soon going to be the 4th bestseller of the decade. There are not many albums (if any) that will outsell these 2 albums in the US for the remainder of this decade.
This is some data from Oldbloke at UKMix showing the best selling albums in the US this decade (since 2010). The chart is from Nov 30, 2013 so is before the Christmas period, and thus slightly out of date.
Rank - Estimated Sales - TITLE - Artist
01 - 10,798,000 - 21 - Adele
02 - 4,516,000 - RECOVERY - Eminem
03 - 4,384,000 - SPEAK NOW - Taylor Swift
04 - 4,033,000 - NEED YOU NOW - Lady Antebellum
05 - 3,873,000 - RED - Taylor Swift
06 - 3,301,000 - MY WORLD 2.0 - Justin Bieber
07 - 3,132,000 - CHRISTMAS - Michael Buble
08 - 3,034,000 - SIGH NO MORE - Mumford & Sons
09 - 3,003,000 - MY KINDA PARTY - Jason Aldean
10 - 2,796,000 - TEENAGE DREAM - Katy Perry
NB Fearless was at #42 on the list at 1,424,000
Latest sales figures for Red are about 3,963,000 from Roughstock (rounded up to the nearest 1000). So it sold about 90k copies or so in December. If it sold about 6k last week as Hits estimates then Red is about 30k short of 4 million mark. This will be reached by the Grammy's boost.
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The Grammy promo won't be very helpful if every damn store in the country is understocked/ sold out. 
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It was that "Taylor Swift Is The Biggest Popstar In The World" article. New York Post or something?
So MM is confirmed again. Expected i guess.
But that was a great interview.  She comes across really wise.
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I wonder why all of these magazines say she has been working with MM, when inside sources have said that she hasn't worked with him/doesn't plan on it...
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Have you guys see this?
The GRAMMYs @TheGRAMMYs 2 h
Here it is! View the tracklisting for the 2014 GRAMMY Nominees album out 1/21: http://grm.my/1ew1MP0 #GRAMMYs pic.twitter.com/yAFD84efQ2
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Ah, that article. Thanks guys!
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Originally posted by WayTooHonest13
I wonder why all of these magazines say she has been working with MM, when inside sources have said that she hasn't worked with him/doesn't plan on it...
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Either Max Martin is a red herring or these insiders are not very inside. 
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And she will be performing?
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Max Martin was first confirmed 2 months ago, i'm not sure the exact date, but it's written in a November issue of Billboard magazine (after CMA Awards)
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Originally posted by mikeyace16
Does anyone know about how much each of her albums have sold outside the US?
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Estimates for album sales from outside the US are
Taylor Swift :: 230k
Fearless :: 1,924,470
Speak Now: 694,281
thanks to AlicePotter at UKMix
This was from Nov 2013, so recent data.
Red has sold 2 million copies outside the US so far, according to Big Machine. Probably shipments but outside the US sales figures can be unreliable.
As you can see Red already her most successful album in International markets.
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Muddy is just joking around sis. Don't take it so seriously  |
So right! I'd even love to see Red outdo Beyonce, even after a year on the charts.
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