[Same Ol' Mistakes]

My desktop looks so good now.

[IMadeYouReadThis]

Lady Gaga on ARTPOP:

It was a more artistic, conceptual album

I like that she doesn't completely ignore its existence but it's funny to see her still standing firmly by ARTPOP, which I personally actually love...

[skwonderfactory]

Originally posted by IMadeYouReadThis

Lady Gaga on ARTPOP:



I like that she doesn't completely ignore its existence but it's funny to see her still standing firmly by ARTPOP, which I personally actually love...

Same. ARTPOP is my favorite Gaga album; I wonder if Joanne can top it. I mean "Perfect Illusion" is great so...

[- JED -]

Originally posted by Opacho

Billboard doesn't count all pre-orders as first day sales anymore, singles as well. Pre-orders are dead...

But surely they count as first week sales, don't they?

[Teneo]

Originally posted by Opacho

Billboard doesn't count all pre-orders as first day sales anymore, singles as well. Pre-orders are dead...

But this doesn't make sense, those sales still have to count somehow, right?

[Guy12345]

The only problem with ARTPOP for me is the production that lacks a ''good-ear'',
I mean it's loud, messy and overproduced in a very bad way. she went all over the place with it,
the album could have been The Fame Monster-level amazing. I think it's a matter of her ruining it.
the hooks are fantastic, the lyrics are great 'playful-pop', she had great demos and treated them poorly. that is it.

[CallumDavies]

pre-orders are just part of the total sales, they never appear on Billboard 200

[SpinThatShhh]

Originally posted by Opacho

Billboard doesn't count all pre-orders as first day sales anymore, singles as well. Pre-orders are dead...

Originally posted by CallumDavies

pre-orders are just part of the total sales, they never appear on Billboard 200

What? This is incorrect.

Pre-orders do count for Billboard on release day, they just don't chart on iTunes's album chart anymore. Same for singles, it counts as a single purchase, but when the album is completed (Complete My Album effect) that sales are subtracted.

For example for Applause:
Week 8: 109,000 (#9)
Week 9: 100,000 (#8)
Week 10: 89,000 (#9)
Week 11: 80,000 (#7)
Week 12: 77,000 (#10)
Week 13: 4,000 (#10)
Week 14: 63,000 (#9)

Here the sales are only 4,000 because all the people who pre-order ARTPOP and instantly got Applause are being subtracted. But for albums preorder numbers are 100% included into the final BB200 tally.

[Thor]

i get that the name "Joanne" has a lot of personal value to Gaga because of her aunt etc. but it's really weak as an album title. It lacks a punch and a distinctive quality.

Maybe once I hear the album then I'll start to appreciate it more but so far I just don't like it.

[smoore95GAGA]

For me, her albums so far are: TFM>ARTPOP>The Fame>>>>>>BTW

[Teneo]

I'm just grateful that the title is not capitalized. The days of BORN THIS WAY, ARTPOP and GUY are past behind us now.

[IMadeYouReadThis]

Pointed this out before, will do again.

I'll be living in a place called Joanna House this year. FATE confirmed.

[Shady]

Originally posted by Teneo

I'm just grateful that the title is not capitalized. The days of BORN THIS WAY, ARTPOP and GUY are past behind us now.

Born This Way was not capitalized though

[Jeiboy]

Albums:

The Fame Monster >> ARTPOP > Born This Way > The Fame

[PrinceLightning]

Originally posted by Jeiboy

Albums:

The Fame Monster >> ARTPOP > Born This Way > The Fame

[SpinThatShhh]

Born this Way > The Fame Monster > ARTPOP > The Fame

Honestly debating ARTPOP and The Fame, though. It's really close, The Fame just has such high highs but such low lows. ARTPOP is consistently okay to amazing.

[Jeiboy]

Based on Perfect Illusion alone, Joanne will be the best

[PrinceLightning]

Originally posted by SpinThatShhh

Born this Way > The Fame Monster > ARTPOP > The Fame

Honestly debating ARTPOP and The Fame, though. It's really close, The Fame just has such high highs but such low lows. ARTPOP is consistently okay to amazing.

This is the only correct answer.

[PrinceLightning]

Originally posted by IMadeYouReadThis

Pointed this out before, will do again.

I'll be living in a place called Joanna House this year. FATE confirmed.

[Komet blu]

ARTPOP is consistently okay to amazing

3 years later and the perfect delulu is still going strong

ot: Joanne sounds like the name of an iconic album, yall can sit