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TV Show: Revenge: The Complete Series
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Have to say this season has not been the worst (the Initiative saga takes that cake) but it seems like the writers are struggling to close the series and still make it dramatic. There's just a lot of eye-rolling for 50 minutes of the episode and then some huge shock and the end that is way more dramatic in the moment than 7 days later.
I really hope Victoria is still alive--the way she went out was so out of character. I mean, she definitely played up her sadness/depression during this episode so you could see it coming but it just doesn't seem like good enough closure for, in my opinion, the most riveting character in the entire show.
And for those of you who are strictly Team Emily, Victoria definitely has reason to be angry at Emily and I think the last few episodes will hopefully shed more like on her troubled childhood/past. Honestly, while bringing David back was a huge shock at the time I still think the show would've been better off had it not happened. Emily vs. Victoria is the heart of this show, so storylines that deviate from that (making Margeaux out to be a Victoria type nemesis for Emily, focusing on perpetually uninteresting David, etc.) just detracts from the show's premise. I want every episode to be Victoria vs. Emily sniping at each other, exacting revenge on each other, because that's what made the show great. Now that Victoria may be gone, there's little to get excited about.
Edit: I will say that as much as I love Victoria as a character, I still think the writers made a mistake in making her kill Aiden. That scene was just so harrowingly painful to watch and Emily just doesn't deserve that. I always thought Emily and Aiden should've ended up together, but, alas ~~revenge~~.
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Originally posted by longjohn9898
Have to say this season has not been the worst (the Initiative saga takes that cake) but it seems like the writers are struggling to close the series and still make it dramatic. There's just a lot of eye-rolling for 50 minutes of the episode and then some huge shock and the end that is way more dramatic in the moment than 7 days later.
I really hope Victoria is still alive--the way she went out was so out of character. I mean, she definitely played up her sadness/depression during this episode so you could see it coming but it just doesn't seem like good enough closure for, in my opinion, the most riveting character in the entire show.
And for those of you who are strictly Team Emily, Victoria definitely has reason to be angry at Emily and I think the last few episodes will hopefully shed more like on her troubled childhood/past. Honestly, while bringing David back was a huge shock at the time I still think the show would've been better off had it not happened. Emily vs. Victoria is the heart of this show, so storylines that deviate from that (making Margeaux out to be a Victoria type nemesis for Emily, focusing on perpetually uninteresting David, etc.) just detracts from the show's premise. I want every episode to be Victoria vs. Emily sniping at each other, exacting revenge on each other, because that's what made the show great. Now that Victoria may be gone, there's little to get excited about.
Edit: I will say that as much as I love Victoria as a character, I still think the writers made a mistake in making her kill Aiden. That scene was just so harrowingly painful to watch and Emily just doesn't deserve that. I always thought Emily and Aiden should've ended up together, but, alas ~~revenge~~.
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There's only 3 episodes left, we should just be grateful that we're getting THAT much time to conclude the story. If Victoria died in the episode before the finale, it'd ****ing suck because we wouldn't have the time to get any proper closure for both Victoria and Emily.
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Originally posted by longjohn9898
Have to say this season has not been the worst (the Initiative saga takes that cake) but it seems like the writers are struggling to close the series and still make it dramatic. There's just a lot of eye-rolling for 50 minutes of the episode and then some huge shock and the end that is way more dramatic in the moment than 7 days later.
I really hope Victoria is still alive--the way she went out was so out of character. I mean, she definitely played up her sadness/depression during this episode so you could see it coming but it just doesn't seem like good enough closure for, in my opinion, the most riveting character in the entire show.
And for those of you who are strictly Team Emily, Victoria definitely has reason to be angry at Emily and I think the last few episodes will hopefully shed more like on her troubled childhood/past. Honestly, while bringing David back was a huge shock at the time I still think the show would've been better off had it not happened. Emily vs. Victoria is the heart of this show, so storylines that deviate from that (making Margeaux out to be a Victoria type nemesis for Emily, focusing on perpetually uninteresting David, etc.) just detracts from the show's premise. I want every episode to be Victoria vs. Emily sniping at each other, exacting revenge on each other, because that's what made the show great. Now that Victoria may be gone, there's little to get excited about.
Edit: I will say that as much as I love Victoria as a character, I still think the writers made a mistake in making her kill Aiden. That scene was just so harrowingly painful to watch and Emily just doesn't deserve that. I always thought Emily and Aiden should've ended up together, but, alas ~~revenge~~.
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no. not after what she did and is completely unapologetic for.
Victoria had a troubling childhood but it was never stolen from her. She knew the truth about her mother and everything past the birth of her first child was her own decision.
If it weren't for David and Nolan's friendship, Victoria would have successfully stolen Amanda's childhood AND ruined the rest of her life seeing as how she was in juvi and hated her dad from brainwashing until she got out.
The only thing I have empathy for as far as Victoria goes is how crazy and evil her mother was and that she was raped. Neither of those things are Amanda's fault though.
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Originally posted by Haus
There's only 3 episodes left, we should just be grateful that we're getting THAT much time to conclude the story. If Victoria died in the episode before the finale, it'd ****ing suck because we wouldn't have the time to get any proper closure for both Victoria and Emily.
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Yeah I agree. If she did die this episode, I'm sure we'll get flashbacks/more footage on the night of her death and her past. But if she somehow pulled a fast one on all of us (again) then hopefully they set up something even more dramatic and fitting for the end. All I'm saying is that "Two Graves" better live up to it's name.
And honestly I feel like David as a character has not really been developed well or well enough for all of this to feel like good closure. I still find it strange that's he's alive--and I hope they don't bring Charlotte back for some big happy family reunion because I have a feeling they will. As it is now, I think they'll have Jack and Emily together in the very end but something surprising/tragic (and fitting of a show called Revenge) has to happen for this show to close well.
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Originally posted by Giliap
no. not after what she did and is completely unapologetic for.
Victoria had a troubling childhood but it was never stolen from her. She knew the truth about her mother and everything past the birth of her first child was her own decision.
If it weren't for David and Nolan's friendship, Victoria would have successfully stolen Amanda's childhood AND ruined the rest of her life seeing as how she was in juvi and hated her dad from brainwashing until she got out.
The only thing I have empathy for as far as Victoria goes is how crazy and evil her mother was and that she was raped. Neither of those things are Amanda's fault though.
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I mean, no need to get defensive. It's just a show--I realize Victoria basically destroyed Emily's childhood but she also wasn't the only person implicated in that and I can see Victoria's side of the story. Honestly, I just like Victoria because her sparring with Emily was for a long time the best thing on television and even after all she's done and how horrible/bitter/manipulative/evil she can be she's still the baddest b*tch on the show, and as a viewer that's riveting--and her flashes of vulnerability and honesty are interesting to me. Yes, the whole premise of the show is built so that you are meant to be on Emily's side and essentially hate Victoria for being Emily's adversary, but as a viewer I still love seeing Victoria on screen and seeing her almost as an anti-hero for the show. I still think she deserves a much, much better exit but the show is already somewhat of a mess so I'll take what I can get
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Originally posted by longjohn9898
Yeah I agree. If she did die this episode, I'm sure we'll get flashbacks/more footage on the night of her death and her past. But if she somehow pulled a fast one on all of us (again) then hopefully they set up something even more dramatic and fitting for the end. All I'm saying is that "Two Graves" better live up to it's name.
And honestly I feel like David as a character has not really been developed well or well enough for all of this to feel like good closure. I still find it strange that's he's alive--and I hope they don't bring Charlotte back for some big happy family reunion because I have a feeling they will. As it is now, I think they'll have Jack and Emily together in the very end but something surprising/tragic (and fitting of a show called Revenge) has to happen for this show to close well.
I mean, no need to get defensive. It's just a show--I realize Victoria basically destroyed Emily's childhood but she also wasn't the only person implicated in that and I can see Victoria's side of the story. Honestly, I just like Victoria because her sparring with Emily was for a long time the best thing on television and even after all she's done and how horrible/bitter/manipulative/evil she can be she's still the baddest b*tch on the show, and as a viewer that's riveting--and her flashes of vulnerability and honesty are interesting to me. Yes, the whole premise of the show is built so that you are meant to be on Emily's side and essentially hate Victoria for being Emily's adversary, but as a viewer I still love seeing Victoria on screen and seeing her almost as an anti-hero for the show. I still think she deserves a much, much better exit but the show is already somewhat of a mess so I'll take what I can get
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I didn't meant to come off as defensive lol
But I'm the opposite. I think it's the default to somehow find a soft spot for the villain. Victoria's character is definitely the most complex and with that comes the question "am I on her side or not?" All the glimpses at any vulnerability will make you question that. I see right through it though. On the surface we're supposed to hate the villain but all this show has been for Victoria, like many others, is showing how cruel the villain can be but also how ~relatable and/or vulnerable the villain can be.
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Originally posted by Giliap
wait that was only 3 weeks ago and the season has already been filmed.
I will not be happy if they bring back this brat to carry on the revenge, especially if it follows the death of David and/or Amanda. If Amanda dies, the show better die too.
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Revenge, season 5 coming very soon to Yahoo.com.
Hello, my name is Charlotte and I have a story to tell...
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Revenge, season 5 coming very soon to Yahoo.com.
Hello, my name is Charlotte and I have a story to tell...
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Victoria literally going out with a BANG.
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Someone NEEDS to make a gif of that iconic final scene.
I sense it could be the next hit reaction gif
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Someone NEEDS to make a gif of that iconic final scene.
I sense it could be the next hit reaction gif
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I caught a reaction of Louise that would make a flawless gif, but I don't think she's relevant enough to catch on
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What the **** Sunil
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I JUST WATCHED SUNDAY'S EPISODE I'M SHAKING ksla;hfsaldjhsckhda
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Originally posted by Haus
I caught a reaction of Louise that would make a flawless gif, but I don't think she's relevant enough to catch on
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Make it and I'm sure we can help make it happen
I need a damn good one of Victoria though
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- Daniels death, I didn't feel much. Maybe because I knew it was coming. Very cliche, and wasn't getting much emotion from both of them. It looked like they were still warming up tbh.
- I liked that. Although it's getting a little power rangers, how all her schemes are exectuted with a perfect happy ending each time. So many episodes are ending in equilibrium that it feels like there aren't any real stakes. When Margeaux was threatening to expose Emily, did your really feel as if there were any stakes?
- That was ite.
- Pshh, who else was gonna do it? She's done stuff like that b4.
- That episode didn't really do much as a digression. I guess it pushed Victoria over the edge. But that entire episode has been done to death. And when Malcom slowly backed into the fire. Were they having a laugh? Because I did. So corny. Malcom's character was underdeveloped, really cheap of them to just throw him in and get rid of him like that.
- I saw Louises brother's death from a mile off. We'll actually, I estimated that either one of them was gonna accidentally die as soon as they got into their 1st confrontation. Don't tell me you didn't see that coming.
- Again, what was the point even of that black lady? Very power rangers, how they randomly bring a temporary villain for an episode, and although powerful at 1st, they are always defeated on 2nd attempt.
Another minus point for brining in the Cop as a place holder in the love triangle after Aiden died. Just because they are not ready to get Emily and Jack together yet. And Jack has no story left to tell so they cheaply flew him out of the country for no good reason just they can have him back at the finale for dramatic effect.
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Originally posted by longjohn9898
Edit: I will say that as much as I love Victoria as a character, I still think the writers made a mistake in making her kill Aiden. That scene was just so harrowingly painful to watch and Emily just doesn't deserve that. I always thought Emily and Aiden should've ended up together, but, alas ~~revenge~~.
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I disagree. That was one of the last moving moments I had with revenge. I was literally yelling at my screen. They need that. They need more of that.
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OMG the episode
The ending holy ****
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Question is whose more of a vicious bitch Victoria or Gemma(SOA)?
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But who beat her at the parking lot? If it wasn't Emily?
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