[RatedG²]

Originally posted by Aden

Is it safe to assume that the debate will be shown on every major news network? Also do we have times?

I believe its 9pm EDT but it will definitely be at least on CNN. I'm 99% sure it'll be on other major networks too like MSNBC and Fox

[@michael]

I would love it if the "Trump is a huge liar" narrative really took off in the media. Up until the last week, they've done a really poor job of calling him out on his habitual lying. It would really be a blow to his "blunt, honest, tells-it-like-it-is" persona.

[6_INCH_HEELS]

Trump is not becoming POTUS. People acting like its a possibility are beyond delusional. I can't see myself getting worked up over something that's not happening.

[Valentine]

so 11 hours left?

[jinzo]

Originally posted by TaggedGalaxy

Not without PA

Yep, without PA. Any one of Colorado, New Mexico, New Hampshire, Michigan or PA is enough to send him over. 3 seats in Maine puts him on 269/269, and the House will put him into the presidency.

538's latest polls-only forecast puts Clinton/Trump at 51.5%/48.5%. A now-cast puts Donald in the lead. Clinton's post-convention bounce has completely evaporated and she's got no momentum. It's been trending towards Trump for weeks and weeks.

[TheLastChord]

Originally posted by @michael

I would love it if the "Trump is a huge liar" narrative really took off in the media. Up until the last week, they've done a really poor job of calling him out on his habitual lying. It would really be a blow to his "blunt, honest, tells-it-like-it-is" persona.

For me, I don't know how people overlook that. I can't honestly believe there's someone who doesn't see past his ********. It's so obvious. But, I guess the anti-politics trend that has been going around the world is stronger than sense.

[TaggedGalaxy]

Originally posted by jinzo

Yep, without PA. Any one of Colorado, New Mexico, New Hampshire, Michigan or PA is enough to send him over. 3 seats in Maine puts him on 269/269, and the House will put him into the presidency.

538's latest polls-only forecast puts Clinton/Trump at 51.5%/48.5%. A now-cast puts Donald in the lead. Clinton's post-convention bounce has completely evaporated and she's got no momentum. It's been trending towards Trump for weeks and weeks.

You're assuming he will win NV, OH, NC and/or FL. He's at 197 Electoral votes with 68 going either way. If he gets those 68 he's still not able to win because it will put him at 265. He needs all 68 of those votes and any combination of the states you mentioned. So no any one of those won't put him over he needs those and the swing states.

[Navyboy20]

Originally posted by jinzo

Yep, without PA. Any one of Colorado, New Mexico, New Hampshire, Michigan or PA is enough to send him over. 3 seats in Maine puts him on 269/269, and the House will put him into the presidency.

538's latest polls-only forecast puts Clinton/Trump at 51.5%/48.5%. A now-cast puts Donald in the lead. Clinton's post-convention bounce has completely evaporated and she's got no momentum. It's been trending towards Trump for weeks and weeks.

In reality, the only chance Trump has is if Hillary was so far ahead in the polls that people don't turnout at the polls because they assume she's going to win.

A close race in the polls just ensures that anyone who wants to prevent Trump from winning will actually go and vote for Hillary. Even a lot of Stein supporters will end up voting for Hillary if they see the race as being "too close" They would have less hesitations casting a protest vote if they believed Hillary was winning regardless.

[Artemisia]

im scared for tonight tbh

[Raster]

yeah the close race narrative is pretty good for Hillary

will energize dem voter turnout. Let's just hope she doesn't cough for 10 minutes straight tonight and completely destroys Trump with facts and logic

[Mike91]

Originally posted by Artemisia

im scared for tonight tbh

The problem isn't if Hillary wins or loses the debate, it's how the media will claim Trump acted and looked presidential if he manages not to act like a 12 year old at some point during the debate.

[Artemisia]

Originally posted by Mike91

The problem isn't if Hillary wins or loses the debate, it's how the media will claim Trump acted and looked presidential if he manages not to act like a 12 year old at some point during the debate.

yes, the bar for him is unprecedentedly low.

[TheLastChord]

Originally posted by Raster

yeah the close race narrative is pretty good for Hillary

will energize dem voter turnout. Let's just hope she doesn't cough for 10 minutes straight tonight and completely destroys Trump with facts and logic

She needs to keep her messages short and to the point and call him out on any if his ********. Besides, if he goes for any low punches, she needs to correct it with facts. Anything to do with Bill or her role as a woman.

[jinzo]

Originally posted by TaggedGalaxy

You're assuming he will win NV, OH, NC and/or FL. He's at 197 Electoral votes with 68 going either way. If he gets those 68 he's still not able to win because it will put him at 265. He needs all 68 of those votes and any combination of the states you mentioned. So no any one of those won't put him over he needs those and the swing states.

http://www.270towin.com/maps/jykbX

Substitute CO for any of NM, NH, PA, MI or ME and it's a Trump win.

[geo]

People have talked about Pennsylvania flipping for years. It's not going to turn red for Trump of all people.

[@michael]

Wow, they are basically complete opposites when it comes to truthfulness.

[@michael]

Speaking of Pennsylvania...



https://twitter.com/kristoncapps/sta...39867921956865

[Orpheus]

I always feel like when Hil is fighting from the underdog role she is her most effective and brilliant. I am confident in her ability tonight though nervous with where the campaign currently stand today.

[Superpower]

They are predicting between 75M and 100M viewers

Also all these polls should be taken with a big spoon of salt. Tonight will make all the difference

[Gui Blackout]

I'm positive that Hillary will perform well tonight and I highly doubt Trump will appeal to anyone outside his voters.

I'm far more scared of the moderators pulling a Matt Lauer and how the media will cover it.