[Andres]

Originally posted by Bloo

I'm confused as to what you were asking specifically. If you're asking about fear-mongering around the term of the "establishment," then I'm talking about other forms of corruption. Or maybe I'm not. Bernie has failed to give a clear-cut explanation of what "the establishment" is. Because it somehow manages to not include him (someone who's been in politics for almost 40 years) but also include everyone else (conveniently anyone that doesn't endorse him) in politics. So, I'm not sure. If he means trying to avoid career politicians like Mitch McConnell by putting term limits on senator positions, then YES! All for that. Except, I don't recall Bernie saying anything about that. I do recall Hillary coming to my university in October 2014 to campaign against Mitch McConnell and talked about the essentiality of term limits. So... my support for Hillary is unbothered.

You keep using that argument of Bernie is part of the establishment but he isn't and his record shows that. He doesn't take money from corporate interests like Hillary does. An example of that is the article I just posted. Her vote swings where the money swings.

[Mellark]

Originally posted by Tinker

Bernsters are always fuming @ Hillary. I couldn't even get in a word today in class when we started discussing politics and this years election. "She's a LIAR!" "But Establishment" is literally all they say.

Like we need to fight Donald Trump, not each other.

This is the answer.

[Wonderland]

Originally posted by Andres

You keep using that argument of Bernie is part of the establishment but he isn't and his record shows that. He doesn't take money from corporate interests like Hillary does. An example of that is the article I just posted. Her vote swings where the money swings.

Whoomp! (There it is)

Expose her

[ALIEN]

Originally posted by Bloo

I'm confused as to what you were asking specifically. If you're asking about fear-mongering around the term of the "establishment," then I'm talking about other forms of corruption. Or maybe I'm not. Bernie has failed to give a clear-cut explanation of what "the establishment" is. Because it somehow manages to not include him (someone who's been in politics for almost 40 years) but also include everyone else (conveniently anyone that doesn't endorse him) in politics. So, I'm not sure. If he means trying to avoid career politicians like Mitch McConnell by putting term limits on senator positions, then YES! All for that. Except, I don't recall Bernie saying anything about that. I do recall Hillary coming to my university in October 2014 to campaign against Mitch McConnell and talked about the essentiality of term limits. So... my support for Hillary is unbothered.

are you kidding me? he gives examples every ****ing time what he means by that. Like, I just saw a debate between Clinton and Sanders and his opening statement consists of what the "establishment" is and how it's affecting America. stop bull******** please.

[Kinuotose]

How official is it that Hillary will be the dem nominee? (In %)

[that G.U.Y.]

Corporations are part of America and the next president is going to have to be on good terms with them.

Its cute how Bernties think he will "put the corporations in their place" and stop wall street when most of the wealth the nation is built upon came from the corporations and the financial marlet.

Like ive said its entitled youths who want to blame everyone else for their problems who actually think Bernie is going to accomplish things.

He couldnt accomplish much as a senator what makes you think he can get things done as a president?

[Marvin]

Originally posted by that G.U.Y.

He couldnt accomplish much as a senator what makes you think he can get things done as a president?

He was called the Amendment King because of how much he got done. What are you talking about?

[that G.U.Y.]

Originally posted by Marvin

He was called the Amendment King because of how much he got done. What are you talking about?

Hillary got the most bills passed tho. Bernie just tacks himself to everybody else's bills....

[Retro]

People can't even keep the definition of "establishment" straight anymore.

[DivaDown]

Originally posted by Andres

You Hillary supporters can claim all day that Bernie supporters hate Hillary and we're all sexists but we didn't make up Hillary's record, her record speaks for itself.

Articles like these tell me everything I need to know about Hillary, she's untrustworthy and just another corrupt politician doing it for the power.

http://www.ibtimes.com/political-cap...easure-prevent

Why I'll be voting Republican if Hillary Clinton steals the Democratic nomination from Bernie Sanders

[Marvin]

Originally posted by that G.U.Y.

Hillary got the most bills passed tho. Bernie just tacks himself to everybody else's bills....

What you said was inaccurate. I didn't mention Hillary so I don't know why you brought her up.

[Retro]

Originally posted by DivaDown

Why I'll be voting Republican if Hillary Clinton steals the Democratic nomination from Bernie Sanders

This must be a joke, or you must not know about the Republicans. Sorry, I refuse to believe a voter who has educated himself or herself would default to a Republican after Bernie, because it's just nonsensical.

Can you give me even one actual reason that any Republican is better than Hillary in any way? Or are you just going to use that article trying to paint something else as "another Hillary flip-flop?"

[ALIEN]

Originally posted by that G.U.Y.

Hillary got the most bills passed tho. Bernie just tacks himself to everybody else's bills....

false. go hit up Google before you post bs

[@michael]

Originally posted by Kinuotose

How official is it that Hillary will be the dem nominee? (In %)

99%

[Radiance]

Originally posted by Andres

You keep using that argument of Bernie is part of the establishment but he isn't and his record shows that. He doesn't take money from corporate interests like Hillary does. An example of that is the article I just posted. Her vote swings where the money swings.

Did Bernie take corporate/special interest money when he ran for Senate in Nevada? Genuine question.

If accepting corporate money = establishment, every single person on Capitol Hill and NGO's are establishment.

Bernie uses the 'establishment' tag randomly and as a flash word. Everything he wants to attack he labels 'establishment'. The fact that trade unions and the human rights group = establishment is ridiculous.

[that G.U.Y.]

Originally posted by ALIEN

false. go hit up Google before you post bs

Excuse me?

Http://www.Congress.gov

Its all there.

[hooky]

The Republican party better die after this election.

Or at least reform.

[ALIEN]

Originally posted by that G.U.Y.

Excuse me?

Http://www.Congress.gov

Its all there.

thank you. Now we can all see how wrong you were making that statement. especially the "he just tacks himself onto it" part.

[Moonchild]

Hillary Clinton agrees to participate in Fox News town hall

It will take place on Monday at 6pm. This will be interesting.

[Radiance]

Originally posted by Moonchild

Hillary Clinton agrees to participate in Fox News town hall

It will take place on Monday at 6pm. This will be interesting.

right into enemy territory. i hope it goes ok.